There are. There is also an application that brings up some kind of Hud, but the network bans players if they find out they're using this software.

Did they change the rake structure? I cant find any announcements on it.
Or was it a hush hush thing?

They've changed it multiple times and never has there once been an announcement. It should be up to whoever your affiliate or skin is to tell you.

Do you have the latest update now?

Not sure. I haven't been on for 2 days, due to travelling.

Edit: if you referring to the rake structure I can get it very easily if you'd like. Will take a day though. 16 hours in the air awaits.

about spin % go
this is just maths calculation....

100spin total prizepool 4500$

50time you win a ''flag'' and at 10 flat you win 150$ so... 10*15 = 150

50*15=750$

43% times you win 60$
60*43=2580

7% times you win 120$
120*7=840

tot. 4170$ on 4500 payed

is like a spin: 13.9+1.1

Sincerly I don't think that is soso high...
the problem is lost 15$ before collect all 10 flags....

I dont understand your calculations but 10 flags do no get you $150.
Sometimes it took up to 48 flags to get the $150

When you collect all 10 flat you gain 150eur...
If every time you spin a different flag you make break even.

the problem is that is hard collect all 10 flag and don't have a lot flag accumulated.
You understand me?

Since their last rake structure update, they have now started raking pre-flop, but only in 3bet pots.

Single raised pots are not raked but 3bet pots are.

Figured most would be oblivious to this, and obviously affiliates aren't going to openly advertise this to lose customers, so thought I'd let you all know.

Theyve been raking preflop pots 3 years ago
Maybe they changed it after I stopped playing there and changed it again now though

Always have been the case since operations began

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smart ruskie bots, sticking to the only beatable format on this site

what do you guys think about grinding the NLH cash games on N8 with the current rake structure?

Depends what stakes/RB you're getting, but still profitable to play NLH on there for sure, not as good as a couple months back though.

for people asking about HUDS on gg network. i just got my accoutn fixed a couple of days ago:

Dear xxxxxx,

We would like to inform you that your ID verification process has been completed. We would like to thank you for cooperating with our request.

GGNetwork does not permit the use of any 3rd-party program.

We would like to inform you that you have used a program that is not permitted on GGNetwork and this corresponding act is a violation of our network policy. In addition, we would like to inform you that the use of a program that is not permitted on our network is considered a harmful and unfair act to our network environment.

We would like to urge you not to use any programs from this point forth. We would like to warn you that the use of any 3rd-party program will lead to the permanent locking of your account as well as the confiscation of your funds.

We at GGNetwork strive to provide a fair environment for all players to enjoy their gaming.

We thank you for your time and cooperation.

Best Regards,

GGNetwork Security

i never had suspicious of any site before but after playing nlh1k+ for a week in natural 8 i start to think something is wrong with this site. am i the only one ?

https://contents.good-game-network.c...ficate/bmm.pdf

this is from natural 8 poker site if you look to the file it has some photoshop. look at project number

This document is on the GG network page too. It links directly to BMM, so I'm sure you could call them up and ask if its 100% legit, but my gut feeling is it is.

Ask whomever you deal with at natural 8 to contact them if you're having concerns.

i play at wpn and pokerstars and never though i would call a site rigeed! i am really thinking there is something wrong with some players in natural 8.

I doubt the site is rigged. I've beaten up to 5/10plo and 1/2nlhe and tournaments (sick brag), but this was about 6 months ago, before it was open to all the Europeans and pros. Quite honestly I barely push this site to anyone asking anymore, as I don't feel its all that profitable.

One thing I wondered, was about insurance. When you take insurance, the site basically pays you out if you lose, right? Out of their own pocket so that the winner doesn't lose money. And from what I can tell, I'm winning off taking insurance. So relatively sure that's also legit, or I'm just extremely lucky.

Side note: I can almost guarantee the security side of the site, with regards to collusion, that that isn't happening at all. I got banned temporarily just because I was playing with someone in the same country so they could go through all our hands. It's happened to 2 other friends of mine too. While it was a pain in the ass, it's nice to know their security team is up to scratch on that front.

i would like to hear from someone well know in community if he can win at natural 8. i will never play there anymore until i have some sample about good amount of players wining at natural 8.

could ask their roster of sponsored pros

Yes it would be great for someone from their roster to speak up and let us know more about their site.