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11-02-2017 , 07:38 PM
For me when i open a tournament lobby or go to close to client using mac, the x button on the top right of lobby makes it fullscreen instead of closing lobby.Anyone else have this problem or know a way around it?
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11-02-2017 , 08:20 PM
Is this GGpoker part of all in asia?https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...a-com-1688889/

Anybody concerned about this?
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11-02-2017 , 08:24 PM
All In Asia is a website that offers games in several rooms with a single account. Gg is one of the rooms offered by All In Asia.
If there is a scam by All In Asia, it doesn't mean GG has problems!
AIA is just a middle man here...
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11-04-2017 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Purasevic
Is this GGpoker part of all in asia?https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...a-com-1688889/

Anybody concerned about this?
passwords being stored in plain text and emailed directly back to the user is extremely amateur. Wouldn't go anywhere near AIA after that thread.
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11-04-2017 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Really? I don't find it at all surprising. If they were to not give licenses to sites for which posters have popped up every few weeks or months with their super using, rigged site, and other accusations, they wouldn't be able to license any site.
True but I've never heard of 5/10 winners calling a site rigged before GGpoker and 1 or 2 other asian rooms. Looked up a few of the posters and they were big winners on other sites.
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11-04-2017 , 11:03 AM
On GGPoker/Natural8...
...what currency do you play in?
...what currency are you expected to deposit in? If you use Neteller?
...are there any conversion fees?
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11-04-2017 , 05:30 PM
On natural8
USD
USD, but I guess you can exchange any currency you want in neteller, if not the Agent who deposits to your account(Natural8 official facebook chat) will do it for you.
About conversion fees, No idea.
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11-05-2017 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ontheupandup
On GGPoker/Natural8...
...what currency do you play in?
...what currency are you expected to deposit in? If you use Neteller?
...are there any conversion fees?
Recently they accepts deposits and withdrawals in bitcoin and ethereum as well
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11-05-2017 , 09:03 PM
Is anyone familiar with GGPoker new rakeback program?if I understood well it`s

randomized with some spin the wheel think,so like another form of chests I suppose.
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11-06-2017 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Purasevic
Is anyone familiar with GGPoker new rakeback program?if I understood well it`s

randomized with some spin the wheel think,so like another form of chests I suppose.
Didn't you get fix rb on top of that,..?I play on best poker(ggnetwork skin) and got 35% rb
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11-06-2017 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.DjiSamSoe
Didn't you get fix rb on top of that,..?I play on best poker(ggnetwork skin) and got 35% rb
How do I get in on this?
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11-06-2017 , 10:16 AM
Google.com => GG network rakeback or Natural8 Rakeback.
You will see a lot of sites offering it.
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11-06-2017 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.DjiSamSoe
Didn't you get fix rb on top of that,..?I play on best poker(ggnetwork skin) and got 35% rb
Btw, you either get flat RB or you opt into fish buffet.
You can not have both.
And at the moment there is no flat rake back offered by network itself. Just thorough affiliates
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11-06-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Does the HUD ban include HE Indicator or just HEM/PT?
Have you played on here, Fossil?
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11-06-2017 , 12:03 PM
No HUD is allowed. No HUD would work because of the encryption they use on their HHs.
No Convertor out there for it.
They changed their HH format around 4-6 months ago... After that all the convertors stopped working and no one provided any that could catch their HHs
So any kind of HUD is out of the question.
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11-06-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mohsen
No HUD is allowed. No HUD would work because of the encryption they use on their HHs.
No Convertor out there for it.
They changed their HH format around 4-6 months ago... After that all the convertors stopped working and no one provided any that could catch their HHs
So any kind of HUD is out of the question.
I can play without one, no problem. How are the games compared to say the Chico network?

PLO is my main game though I dabble in hold em MTTs.
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11-06-2017 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula409
I can play without one, no problem. How are the games compared to say the Chico network?

PLO is my main game though I dabble in hold em MTTs.
Try download the app and see for yourself..the plo traffic is very decent and soft too on lower stake
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11-06-2017 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.DjiSamSoe
Try download the app and see for yourself..the plo traffic is very decent and soft too on lower stake
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11-06-2017 , 04:47 PM
Mohsen,do you think its better to choose flat rakeback thorough affiliates or opt in to fish buffet?
I can reach octopus level.
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11-06-2017 , 06:33 PM
Affiliates out there arw offering like 50% RB from the start. At very best you can gain 50% RB at fish buffet (on average) so I would go with an affiliate
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11-17-2017 , 12:23 PM
guys, will open a thread with "how GG steals our money"
-fishbuffet EV is 50 (in your dreams)and i am getting like 20% after 25k rake (lol, obv i have all the mails from GG what my spinns were)
If anyone can offer a HS grinder a correct flat RB i would be in. This Fishbuffet is a huuuge scam.
Regarding affils. I think they are getting wrong reports from GG. Based on Fishbuffet i can see my exact rake but they are getting like 40% less in the report. So i dont want to count the true rakeback but its like fishbuffet + 30-40% affil rake = like 30% in true rakeback at best case!
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11-17-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vicyafos
Maybe you didnt realize Player Value Index was in play - https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...4&postcount=27
This
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11-17-2017 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by naggeri2
guys, will open a thread with "how GG steals our money"
-fishbuffet EV is 50 (in your dreams)and i am getting like 20% after 25k rake (lol, obv i have all the mails from GG what my spinns were)
If anyone can offer a HS grinder a correct flat RB i would be in. This Fishbuffet is a huuuge scam.
Regarding affils. I think they are getting wrong reports from GG. Based on Fishbuffet i can see my exact rake but they are getting like 40% less in the report. So i dont want to count the true rakeback but its like fishbuffet + 30-40% affil rake = like 30% in true rakeback at best case!
I `m sure they are not stealing.

The point is you will get 50% rakeback `in the long run`.

That may be next year,in 5 years or 25 years.

We just need to be patient.
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11-17-2017 , 08:57 PM
I don't play there anymore (Internet issues with their server and high latencies.. From my end of course that can't be fixed..)
No Idea on fish buffet.
But about their raking system,they changed it to contributed methode awhile ago.
That I can assure you. I got a confirmation from their Live support.
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11-17-2017 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by naggeri2
guys, will open a thread with "how GG steals our money"
-fishbuffet EV is 50 (in your dreams)and i am getting like 20% after 25k rake (lol, obv i have all the mails from GG what my spinns were)
If anyone can offer a HS grinder a correct flat RB i would be in. This Fishbuffet is a huuuge scam.
Regarding affils. I think they are getting wrong reports from GG. Based on Fishbuffet i can see my exact rake but they are getting like 40% less in the report. So i dont want to count the true rakeback but its like fishbuffet + 30-40% affil rake = like 30% in true rakeback at best case!


This is kinda frustrating guys. I mean you all talk about the rakeback % there without realizing that GG network is basically scamming everyone. The rake allocation system is some unknown system of the rake allocation. So as a winner you will end up getting a lot less than you should.
Look at the numbers in Pokercraft app and how much you won/lost then compare it to what you have in your account. You will get the real rake you generated. Then compare it with the numbers you get from affiliate.

Your 50% rakeback or whatever is in reality 25% because they are scamming you with some unknown rake allocation algorythm (in many ways simmilar to ipoker where your 80% rakeback is more like 35-40% if you are winning). While at the same time paying insane amounts of rake (even preflop pots are raked BTW).

So you play in a game with almost uncapped rake with 25% rakeback (I was getting like 30% in reality while having 50% rakeback deal and losing a ton after that when I started to get back to b/e I was getting less than 25%).

Again substract what you really won from the POkerCraft numbers and you will get your real rake numbers then look at what yuo get from your affiliate etc.

This isn't even affiliates fault it is just network "scamming" people (search 2+2 for Essence model on Ongame because it was simmilar but still Essence was still less punishing winning players than this GG network ******ed system)

I mean this is almost mindboggling how people are easily attracted to some scummy offers where the % is huge without looking at the rules and knowing that there is some secret algorythm that makes you getting less than 1/2 of what you supposed to.



"1.4. Rake generated for each Hand shall be apportioned between Participating Operators by operation of the Player Value Index Method.

1.5. Player Value Index Method Rule

Each Player at each Participating Operator is given a value between 0 and 2. This value is called the Player Value Index ("PVI"). The PVI for each player is made up from the scores on each games, with an individual weighting.

1.5.1. Hold’em and Omaha scores are determined by CHB Index, Swing Index, Potsize Index, etc.

1.5.2. All-in or Fold score is determined by All-In Index, Jackpot Index, Winloss Index, etc.

1.5.3. Fortune Spin score is determined by Cookie Index, CHB Index, Ticket Index.

1.5.4. Tournament score is determined by Overlay Index, Satellite Index, Buyin Index, and Skill Index.

1.5.5. All scores are subject to change.

The combination of the scores gives the PVI for each Player at each poker room in each Group.

This PVI is then used to allocate Rake between Participating Operators. The Rake for each Hand is allocated to the Participating Operator per that Participating Operator's Player, in the ratio of that Player's PVI times Rake for the session."

Here you have it from GG network site. And Stop discussing the rakeback % finally. I don't know if any of you realize how completely pointless it is!!!!!

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