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09-30-2010 , 08:51 AM

#51

DoubleFly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,983

As a FR grinder, I'm getting the shaft today (relatively), but the changes seem fair.

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09-30-2010 , 08:52 AM

#52

billtimbob

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 232

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Originally Posted by ohdear

how the hell do we calculate this in HEM now? This is really annoying

Impossible, I think. PT3 has the Rake and MGR stats, HEM has refused to add the rake stat for years now.

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09-30-2010 , 08:54 AM

#53

BelgoSuisse

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 399

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Originally Posted by ohdear

how the hell do we calculate this in HEM now? This is really annoying

you wait until HEM releases an update.

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09-30-2010 , 08:54 AM

#54

FiveBet

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 168

looks like all the Rakeback pros will be moving to Stars

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09-30-2010 , 08:57 AM

#55

RobertPlant

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 39

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Originally Posted by billtimbob

Impossible, I think. PT3 has the Rake and MGR stats, HEM has refused to add the rake stat for years now.

I have a "rake" stat in HEM... RB too. There's a FAQ on how to make a custom "rake" stat.

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09-30-2010 , 08:58 AM

#56

billtimbob

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 232

New rakeback method sucks. I'm not a nit by any stretch, but all it means is the 80% vpip fish will be getting raked effectively more, with no rakeback. Just more money for FTP.

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09-30-2010 , 08:58 AM

#57

eLPe

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 59

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Originally Posted by luna22

Oh and yeah: whatever FTP looses by giving the black card they win by the new rake calculating method as the most active players (30%+ vpip for FR) don't have a RB account.

Well, you have to remember that these players created their accounts using different affilates which do not give you rakeback , but FTP pay them anyway!!! So FTP make no money on that!!!

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09-30-2010 , 09:00 AM

#58

billtimbob

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 232

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Originally Posted by RobertPlant

I have a "rake" stat in HEM... RB too. There's a FAQ on how to make a custom "rake" stat.

Can you link it please? I looked and can't find it.

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09-30-2010 , 09:00 AM

#59

Aes

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 463

anyone else having trouble downloading the new update? it's not working for me..

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09-30-2010 , 09:01 AM

#60

i like disco

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,181

is ironman plus taken away starting next month or this? if its the latter it would seriously be extremely out of line imo as i've put in extra effort the entire month just to hit the milestones for ironman.

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09-30-2010 , 09:01 AM

#61

BelgoSuisse

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 399

Doug: Allow us to reach ironman (gold) with 20 (15) days at 500 points, or 15 days at 1000. People have a life beyond poker.

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09-30-2010 , 09:02 AM

#62

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

sigh, if this actually hurts my RB etc im gonna be fkn pissed.

AND LOFKNL AT TAKING AWAY IRONMANPLUS HOLY **** DIE FTP. DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MANY OF THE SMALLER VOLUME PLAYERS DOGGEDLY MAKE THAT GOD DAMN 200pts/day for IRON MAN TO KEEP THEIR MONTHS RUNNING? I DONT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY BUT FFS DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. AND IF YOU MUST TAKE IT AWAY MAKE IRONMAN A MONTHLY FTP PTS THING INSTEAD OF A GOD DAMN DAILY THING YOU GOD DAMNISUFBIPOSUBFP OIBUSFPOIUBIPSOFU pibdgiszobugpisrg fkn moronasoidnbaposfjbposdabgouiswsepobpse
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You mfers better hope stars doesnt bring in rush. I will be outta here so fkn fast its unreal.

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09-30-2010 , 09:03 AM

#63

Spartan73

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 631

FTPDoug posted in the FTP forums that it is indeed dealt FTP's and contributed rakeback. Very interesting.

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09-30-2010 , 09:03 AM

#64

zocketpocket

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,935

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Originally Posted by billtimbob

New rakeback method sucks. I'm not a nit by any stretch, but all it means is the 80% vpip fish will be getting raked effectively more, with no rakeback. Just more money for FTP.

fish will get raked the same. ftp will get more money from them though. i'll lose rb with this change. but with or without a rb hit, contributed rake is fair.

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09-30-2010 , 09:04 AM

#65

JBables

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 664

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Originally Posted by DoubleFly

As a FR grinder, I'm getting the shaft today (relatively), but the changes seem fair.

Relative is better than literal

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09-30-2010 , 09:05 AM

#66

BanZaY

old hand

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,517

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Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse

Doug: Allow us to reach ironman (gold) with 20 (15) days at 500 points, or 15 days at 1000. People have a life beyond poker.

Oh something like this please.

My parents miss me.

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09-30-2010 , 09:05 AM

#67

luna22

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 79

lOL BTW at people (and i talk in FR) think: oh I play 18/16, this is good for me. No, it's not: this is "weighted contributed method", not "contributed". Playing 18/16 is still gonna drop u under the 27% RB.

This favors 25%+ vpip play for FR and I don't know anybody that can play those stats profitably.

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09-30-2010 , 09:07 AM

#68

FiveBet

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 168

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Originally Posted by billtimbob

New rakeback method sucks. I'm not a nit by any stretch, but all it means is the 80% vpip fish will be getting raked effectively more, with no rakeback. Just more money for FTP.

This is exactly what will happen. The high vpip fish's portion of the rakeback will most likely go to FTP because the fish doesn't have rakeback.

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09-30-2010 , 09:08 AM

#69

luna22

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 79

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Originally Posted by eLPe

Well, you have to remember that these players created their accounts using different affilates which do not give you rakeback , but FTP pay them anyway!!! So FTP make no money on that!!!

Wrong as those guys now potentially could get smth with the black card, but they won't as they just don't play enough/often enough. And even if one gets some small black card bonus, it's more than offset by the money they take away from the grinders.

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09-30-2010 , 09:08 AM

#70

ImSOOOSick

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 114

24. Is it true that FTP client can not track running applications?

- No, that is not true.

Please explain this.

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09-30-2010 , 09:08 AM

#71

ForStepper

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 26

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Originally Posted by FTPDoug

18. Approximately every 15 mins the client will freeze up and Ill time out on all tables.

- Is this still happening to anyone?

Yes, it is happening to me for last couple of weeks, very annoying. Pls do smth.

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09-30-2010 , 09:09 AM

#72

FiveBet

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 168

Contributed Rake is unfair to the Winning player. The entire pot belongs to the winner player. They are the ones paying the rake.

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09-30-2010 , 09:10 AM

#73

zocketpocket

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,935

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Originally Posted by luna22

lOL BTW at people (and i talk in FR) think: oh I play 18/16, this is good for me. No, it's not: this is "weighted contributed method", not "contributed". Playing 18/16 is still gonna drop u under the 27% RB.

This favors 25%+ vpip play for FR and I don't know anybody that can play those stats profitably.

wats the differnce between the two?

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09-30-2010 , 09:10 AM

#74

Eldorian

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,274

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Originally Posted by Chazley

no more bonus medals and and iron man requirements have gone up... is ftp trying to insult our intelligence with blackcard?

read again, IM requirement went down, DUCY?

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09-30-2010 , 09:11 AM

#75

notreallymyname

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 351

Well this is ****ing awful. Everyone claiming to be a LAG and benefiting from this, you're not. You're getting about the same at best. Only actual fish put in enough money with enough regularity to win from this.

Well, maybe you are fish. That explains not being able to do the maths.

The only "fair" method is rakeback on actual rake taken from pot winners, dealt is the second best.

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