doug, I am glad the player finder won't be a fish finder deal.

I also hope that understand that a fish's ability to run up a 20bb (or even 10bb) stack into a 600bb stack at an NL game is what makes NLHE great. It is what gives "hope" to lesser skilled players.

I hope you guys figure out a way to punish the guys who shortstack, and abuse the rules, and rathole. Not the recreational players who like to invest very little, and hope to hit big (something you cannot really do in capped games imo). I mean, if a dude has lost ton of money playing life time, I have sympathy for him, and deserves to play uncapped NLHE tables w/ whatever stack size he wants.

I realize, the higher stakes you go, the more inaccurate my argument is: I think 2/4+ (all the way to like 200-400) you will get SSers who are doing it for a clear edge.

There is a clear distinction imo, btwn bad/recreational players SSing, and grinders doing it.

Maybe put a cap on how many tables you can buy in for min at.

bad player usually play like 1-4 tables. Short stack guys who abuse to profit, play 4+ tables. So if you baught in for min at 4 tables, you can only buy in for like 60bb - 100bb at rest of tables. Hell, maybe even put the cap on 2 tables...

also: instead of removing items from store, and creating mass confusion: why not say "out of stock" or something? some players save up a bunch of points, for TVs and stuff, and then have no idea if an item is gone for good, or if it is out of stock, or if it is being replaced my newer model, etc...

Also, if you like my ideas, plz hire me as a brain stormer for FTP

I don't keep up with all of the inane anti-shortstacking threads, so I don't know if this idea is new or not, but this actually seems like a really effective and interesting solution IMO.

It would be a weird rule to justify when looked at objectively, and it might confuse some casual players who legitimately want to multitable for short buyins, but it seems to be very good in the context of stopping professional shortstackers.

Pokerroom.com did this back in the day and I loved it. It would be great if we could customize the buttons but using defaults would be a great start. I am also aware that 3rd party software can be used, I have tried one program but the lag that it created was unbearable. This would be greatly appreciated.

2. Autopost Blinds Always Option.

3. Auto sit out until BB Option.

4. RSA Tokens, the sooner the better.

5. I agree to not having a "fish finder" but having the 'find a player' being able to store more names would be very nice.

6. Fix the 'post blind' prompt after being disconnected mid orbit.

7. And of course do something about the SSers.

I have to quote this, because this a reasonable solution.

+10000 to the shortstack infestation at 200+NL FR. something needs to be done to stop it or the games will be unplayable if the increase in shortie ratholers continue.

200+ is terrible, but 100NL is also bad and getting worse.

Pleas DO NOT change it from 1:4, the avg pot size at a $1/$2 limit holdem table is like $8-$11. The avg pot size at a $0.25/$0.50NL table (big surprise) $8-$11.

Honestly, you short stack haters are such babies. I do not short stack, but if you can 16 table, using the 'winning' strategy you use, why can't someone else also multi-table using their own.

Adapt, exploit and continue to grind that rakeback.

Or, grow a pair and follow through on your 'we're leaving' argument.

Guess what? Already pulled half my roll. The rest will follow it to Stars in January if things don't improve. However, I'd rather stay at Tilt. I prefer their software, I prefer their rewards program, I prefer their tourneys. So, in hopes of being able to play where I want, I point out what I see as a major problem. Fix it? I stay. Don't? I'm gone--and the going has already begun.

1) Waiting list notification Popup
-Horrible horrible alert sound (Sounds like 2 cows belching in my ear)
-Why are there two popups? I get a quick double belch and two popup windows. The 1st one disappears within 1-2secs and the 2nd one sticks around with the countdown.
-These popups seize/freeze my computer for 2-3secs each and every time they come

Please fix this.
-Make these popups less resource hogging (stop the freezing)
-Make it one popup
-Change the cow belching alert noise

2) I'm still randomly getting double cards about 3-5 times/ 1000 hands when multitabling. It goes away when I resize the table even a little bit.

3)Internet browser. My default browser is Firefox, however anytime I open a browser window throught the client (my promotions, my ironman, FT academy, etc.) FTP is opening an internet exploder browser which then proceeds to freeze my computer for a few seconds.

4) Overall freezing. All of the list below cause some level (>2secs) of computer freeze.
-Using the client to open any browser related stuff
-Last Hand replayer
-Layout changing (even for a minor change the client hogs a lot of puter to resize tables)
-popups at the end of SNGs asking if I want to register in another (both HU and Multiplayer)

5) Last but certainly not least.
TIMELY RESPONSIVE SUPPORT.
I acknowledge that you acknowledge the issue but tiny incremental improvements from a baseline of very low are not seen as significant progress.

@ shortstack haters:

Do you have evidence the problem is less pronounced at Stars?

My limited experience @ NL200 there would suggest otherwise. I found plenty of tables with 3+ 20BB'ers.

I was also amazed when I started playing Stars at how many players would insta-stand after doubling up (whether they bought in for 20BB or 100BB). And yes I did see a few ratholing bastards re-sit at my table within my same session.

I think FTP definitely needs to address the problem, but I think Stars needs to do the same.

Do you know of a way to select whether play money or real money is displayed? I only get Play money on the Session stats. I do get real money in the mini cashier, but I'd prefer not to use that one.

Yup. Stars offers 50BB min/100BB max tables. There are 3+ times more of these running at all hours of the day than Tilt has deep tables (because casual players don't like deep tables but are fine with 50BB minimums). Play on those tables and you don't have to deal with short stacks. Problem solved, and that's why Stars will be my new full-time poker home if things don't improve at Tilt.

You know what, I play a lot of MTTs, and I really hate how tight people play in the early stages, and that they dont spew more often. Doug, do you think you could forse people to spew more often? If you don't i'm leaving.

Wow, that was completely irrelevant. EfromPegTown = troll or shortstacker.

Actually, i'm neither. I happen to like Full Tilt, lets let them focus on fixing real problems like support and security.

And then WE as players can focus on strategy.

I'm focusing on what I see as the biggest problem without insulting those who think support and security are the most important. You're trying to focus on support and security by ridiculing those who think shortstacking is the most important. Personally, I think my approach is better: let everyone advocate what matters to them without attacking other people's issues and then let Tilt decide what to focus on.

after being relatively SSer free for a few days, 13 out of 28 NLHE FR 2/4+ tables have FIVE or more SSers on it. So practically half of the tables have OVER HALF short stackers on the tables. C'mon now! For someone who 16-tables, the site is currently unplayable.

This "stop whining and adapt" argument completely misses the point

We are not whining about SSers being difficult to adjust to, because for the most part they are not. But SSers change the table dynamics such that they still hurt your winrate against other deepstacks.

The more important issue is the health/future of the games... if this SS trend continues, the full ring games are going to dry up

Not enough deep tables between 1-2 and 2-4 I gotta throw in .50-1 into the mix sometimes. Damn you SSers. Looking at Stars for next year. I like their 50 BB min tables.

I know it's really hurting my bottom line. Been playing more HU lately but I like to multi table the FR games. Hard to find standard tables without at least 3 SS. If you do, they are just in line to f*^k up your table.

lol the only arguments you have for allowing shortstacking is from shortstackers themselves. Nobody else feels it's fair to allow them to cheat by ratholing. DO SOMETHING NOW

Also, a hotkey that gives you the the ability to sit out/sit in at all cash tables at the same time.

How are they cheating?

+1 would be all for this