i will be as transparent as i can be here because I feel its very important you understand this. He didnt have anymore than 3k in his account.

I dont know why Phil decided to give the 175k but if we carry on like that out of the bottom line, there will be no site left to play on.

If you carry your logic forward, it would seem to prove the importance of catching bots earlier instead of later. Well I don't think I need to point out to anyone that WPN is woefully bad at catching anything until it shows up on a YouTube video.

I don't know if you play mtts or not, but the fields this week definitely feel normalized.. So maybe they have banned some screen names without posting it on their site.. Or maybe a lot of the bots are just not playing for now.

I was just curious how the $175k came about, because as you stated in so many words, going well above the 25k on a regular basis is a non sustainable business model.

It seems like a rather large good will gesture and it is much appreciated.

Also, please don't get rid of your stud games!

Hey - Hey - now there - You are giving away my best secrets. I hate to say it - but I have been profitable against known bots with this similar strategy.

I wasn't sure how long it was going to take the programmers for the bots to adjust to the check raise on the Turn. i have been successfully doing this for a year.

(also - a group of bots was easy to spot - instead of betting 3/4 pot by hitting the 3/4 pot button (PLO) for 75% of the pot, they had a calculation issue and were betting 74.5%. This was not a rounding issue - example; it was a 10.00 pot and the bot bet 7.45, not using the 3/4 pot button, no person would make such an odd percentage bet like that every time for 3/4 pot) - this went on for months from these bots at various pot amounts - always betting 74.5 percent

The biggest problem - most of my "known" bots are disappearing - then I have to take additional time to find new ones.

I was winning massively in EV vs these bots so it is hurting my bottom line as well. But with 3 or 4 accounts at the same table EV means nothing. If only one bot played per table and they didn't grind the highest tiers of the Beast I probably wouldn't mind having a few bots around. But it isn't just me playing on the site and I am one of the few players that was actually beating the bots. It is a shock to me actually being able to seat select normally now. I always had to get position on the bot, now I can actually sit on the left of a whale.

If you miss playing the bots that bad they are on every table at Betonline and Ignition right now.

Also delayed cbet oop when the nuts didn't change on the flop tends to be fairly weak when they go for the POT sizing as they love to go for check raise again most of the time with strong hands. Even when they go for a non pot size as a delayed cbet oop this can be aggressively bluff raised. They also have an extremely high fold to triple barrel oop since their turn check calling range is so weak. When bot is not last to act in a multiway pot but was the preflop aggressor on a very dynamic texture, it has a very nutted betting range, much stronger than when it is last to act.

Also the bot "werewolf19" is back at plo200

werewolf19 - can you please give reasons as to why you think this is a bot?
I just looked up a few things and am interested to know the thought process behind it?
Thanks

It is statistical/scientific reasoning. This account has the exact same stats as all of the other PLO bots that were on every single table from PLO10-PLO2000 for years.
Human regulars do not play like this. 15% turn raise is unheard of, yet every single one of these accounts has this frequency. The AFq for flop turn and river is in the same range as all the bot accounts as well as the flop cbet, multiway cbet being absurdly high and higher than hu cbet, flop float over 60% as well as sizing and strategical tendencies. Also the account will min raise or fold facing a straddle, will also never play no rathole, cap tables or tournaments, always buys in for the maximum allowable unless the account has ran out of funds sufficient to buy in for the max.

Winning_TD don't negate a player as a potential bot because they may have a losing overall record. Simple thing to donk off winnings to teammate

I was just selected for standard security check. Could you have not done it while I was playing a bunch of cash game tables. I lost a lot of pots I was in because the client shut down. That kind of sucks.

Interesting I haven't seen SenKingPoxer or Joyntsharefood at the tables in a few days. MisterOrange200 is still around and a new Russian player, well not new, but I haven't seen him before this week; Twenkle. He is on every 10NL table and is usually stacked up playing the same way as the aforementioned 2 Vs from Saint Petersburg, 27/20/8. Might be one of those two. FWIW, I don't actually believe these players to be bots as others have claimed them to be. I could be wrong though, I just have my reasons why I think they are not.

Does Netspend still work for WPN deposits?

i just want to point out one thing , that i think is being massively overlooked .
the "straddle glitch" isn't just another thing on the suspicious things list along side with data . Its the smoking gun .
this is the definitive proof that these accounts are an algorithm that is not programmed to cope with a straddle ( with no prior action , and in PL ).
This was also the trigger for me to realize these are bots , before i looked into any data .

Is there a thread for suspected nl bots similar to handofgods plo thread?

Newer in the 10nl streets but I also don’t think mister is a bot, seems pretty bad if so, also penaple and twinkle possible bots but again not very good imo (although all you regs probably have me marked as bad reg or whale ). They play long hours though but maybe they just have what it takes for volume grinding (I can only ever grind 3 hrs max). Was a guy in chat spamming all these guys were bots the other day. Also fatcarpmd, I think he has a bit tighter stats than the others mentioned and seems more bot like to me, but I don’t know what to look for in nl

I ended up depositing again on ACR after not playing for months due to the bot problem. Thought I'd give it another go with the proactive approach they have been taking, plus ignition makes me want to claw my eyes out.


It seems a little more 'playable' - i.e. maybe a little 'better' than before. It may be a placebo though haha, with all the talk of less bots.

Does anyone have a clue what they are going to do about all the beast funds that these bots took? Several "people" quit playing that were all in the middle-higher tiers of the races for months in a row.

Their refund policy is on the site. 25k per player banned player max.

how does the traffic at 25nl compare on ACR vs ignition or any other sites? I would like to 4 table but in the past few days I've checked there has only been 1 or max 2 tables of 25nl going.

What times do you play? There were 8+ games running every night last week (American eastern time 8pm and later).

Stuck at "checking for new version".

Later is better for sure ....there are always 6-8 tables from about 8pm on ...if I’m messing around during the day while I’m in the office I’m lucky if I can two table

ok thanks, I will check again tonight.

currently 5 25nl games and loads of 10 nl

@winning_TD -
Any plans or interest in adding double/triple up sitngos?

No shot.
They cause way more problems than its worth.