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Old 02-19-2019, 12:16 AM   #14526
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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?? So it's ok that there's botting and rigging in SNG's, just as long as there isn't any in cash games?

I see.

It's not a "bot ring" that you're seeing. Those are almost definitely house accounts playing together.

edit: same account I've been complaining about is back at the SNG's again. He's been playing for over 12 hours straight and just win, after win, after win, after win. No matter what it does good or bad, it wins.
I don't know that there is or isn't bots in SNGs. If there is, that obviously is not ok.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:17 AM   #14527
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

Is ACR down for anyone else?
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:21 AM   #14528
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:42 AM   #14529
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Why are people still playing here if you know it's bot infested and rigged?
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?? So it's ok that there's botting and rigging in SNG's, just as long as there isn't any in cash games?
The person you replied to said nothing about rigging. You're the only one talking about it right now, and this isn't the thread for rigged anecdotes or posting your bad beats. If you want to throw your rigged theories against the wall, there's a thread specific to that. If you have substantial and credible evidence of rigging, you should start a new thread and present it.

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It's not a "bot ring" that you're seeing. Those are almost definitely house accounts playing together.
Care to share your evidence of this?
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:54 AM   #14530
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Care to share your evidence of this?
You know there's no evidence of it lol. Let's not pretend like most people don't believe this about WPN, though. They do, and you know that, too.

That's why these rooms are so profitable: There's no way to know what they are or aren't doing.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:09 AM   #14531
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Cash games have been running fine last 3 hours no down time
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:31 AM   #14532
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

Can UK players give me the best option for cashing out? Non crypto as I don't know how it works. Any help is appreciated thanks
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:29 AM   #14533
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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You know there's no evidence of it lol.
Here's a thought then - don't state opinion as fact.

Yes, yes, I know - you said "almost definitely".

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Let's not pretend like most people don't believe this about WPN, though. They do, and you know that, too.
I'm quite confident that most people don't believe "Those are almost definitely house accounts playing together".
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:40 AM   #14534
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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Do we have any record of a live player running like God all the time...or just online ones?
Justin Bonomo, Fedor Holz, any player to ever win the WSOPME or anything similar?

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I wish there wasn't all these clueless fish posting bad beat stories and crying about rigging, when there is a grave matter at hand.....
Yes, like fixing the bad software, improving servers, reducing late reg, showing mucked cards, etc, but instead there are 600 pages of 90% the same thing.
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:04 AM   #14535
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

The truth about ACR is simple, nobody really knows.

The answer is, if you feel cheated, just don't play. I have a love/hate relationship with the site, I will quit playing there for a few months after getting beat by runner-runner on three tables in a row and then slowly work my way back in.

The bots don't bother me as I just adjust my play.

What does bother me is:
1. No hand Histories
2. No list of Jackpot winners
3. No odds posted for the "Double or nothing" games
4. Seemingly more bad beats that all other sites combined (IMO)
5. Cashouts cancelled all the time for any reason they can find
6. No transparency (Common among all unregulated sites)

But, in the end, it is my choice to take a chance and play ACR - if they have house bots winning the money, if the double or nothing is 95/5, if they set the software to make sure the net depositors win vs regs, that's the chance I am taking every time I play there. There are SO MANY other sites to play, pick one you feel comfortable with, but stop complaining about being cheated on ACR, remember it is YOUR CHOICE to play there.
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:56 AM   #14536
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

^^^ This. Help somebody!
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:50 PM   #14537
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

Im not going to quote ownit's full message but DON!
https://wordpress.americascardroom.e...le-or-nothing/

As for house players, I have said many many times these do not exist on any site as far as im aware. I know people have their thoughts about certain sites and certain tournaments but if we had house players we wouldnt of overlaid 15 mil + last year.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:57 PM   #14538
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

Maybe instead of blaming super users, bots etc.. maybe work harder on your game?

There is a reason one of the best in the world (Ali) was the number 1 winner on ACR last year, and it wasn't because ACR decided to mark him as a superuser, lol.
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Old 02-19-2019, 12:59 PM   #14539
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There was no DDoS or lag in the 300k the other day. Loving that fact!
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:07 PM   #14540
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There are SO MANY other sites to play, pick one you feel comfortable with, but stop complaining about being cheated on ACR, remember it is YOUR CHOICE to play there.
This is not true for some. A lot of sites that say USA players allowed don't actually allow some states. I'm in Kansas last time I tried downloading ignition it said not accepting players from your zip code. Same with bovada.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:20 PM   #14541
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This is not true for some. A lot of sites that say USA players allowed don't actually allow some states. I'm in Kansas last time I tried downloading ignition it said not accepting players from your zip code. Same with bovada.


Try again, I was not allowed forever being from New York, just recently was able to download and sign up.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:38 PM   #14542
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This is not true for some. A lot of sites that say USA players allowed don't actually allow some states. I'm in Kansas last time I tried downloading ignition it said not accepting players from your zip code. Same with bovada.
Global Poker , BetOnline or maybe even InterTops are viable options you should try. Why keep trying to force yourself to eat the whopper when big macs can be a tasty alternative too...
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:50 PM   #14543
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Global Poker , BetOnline or maybe even InterTops are viable options you should try. Why keep trying to force yourself to eat the whopper when big macs can be a tasty alternative too...
Speaking for myself: Because I'm stubborn lol. And also, whether I like the way things are here or not, they do make the other networks seem very, very profitable in comparison.
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Old 02-19-2019, 02:55 PM   #14544
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

Does anyone have bug sometimes when you can only minbet and minraise? There is no betting slider. Also, area on the left miss "auto muck" and "straddle" while "sit out bb" is darken so I can't click it.
Am I the only one with this bug?
(I play on BCP)
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:48 PM   #14545
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^^
My BCP client is almost unusable right now and I've confirmed through other people as well that they have the same issues with their clients. It is not the same as you say, but there are obvious bugs in the software that render the clients useless, especially when traffic is high.
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:04 AM   #14546
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Does anyone have bug sometimes when you can only minbet and minraise? There is no betting slider. Also, area on the left miss "auto muck" and "straddle" while "sit out bb" is darken so I can't click it.
Am I the only one with this bug?
(I play on BCP)
This is probably the most pernicious software bug that I have experienced. Also the time bank reserve activated sound glitch is unreal (you have to disable this sound, I tried using custom sounds and couldn't find one that wasn't annoying on loop).
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:16 AM   #14547
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

I'm on bcp and haven't had glitch issues past few days anyways. had the sound one last week on acr actually.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:47 AM   #14548
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I'm on bcp and haven't had glitch issues past few days anyways. had the sound one last week on acr actually.
If you grind like I do, you would get the sound glitch every single session. I'm talking 15+ tables.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:13 PM   #14549
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If you grind like I do, you would get the sound glitch every single session. I'm talking 15+ tables.
That sound glitch has been around for years. Incredibly annoying and definitely too distracting to continue a multitabling session during.
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Old 02-20-2019, 04:55 PM   #14550
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

Iím requesting some clarification on the reasoning behind removal of high stakes hu hypers. I understand that this was intended to help the casual player not get destroyed by the hu gto wizards/bots. I understood this move. Playing with an edge is the goal for poker players but some players donít realize what theyíre doing when they sit a Russian hu.

But then you turn and lower rake in reg speeds from 10% to 4% (if I remember correctly)
How was it not considered this could make things worse? Make a way lower variance format with waaaay more hands to play for those who may be cheating a much more viable option of printing money. 4% rake on $500 reg speeds? Thatís just straight asking for a toxic hu environment.

Also why not o8 reg speeds? Thatís my focus game but o8/Omaha players are just forgotten about. We are left with $30.70 hypers. No cheating goes on in o8 but we suffered consequences of a toxic nlh environment. Ignition has reg speed $50s; wpn should offer same thing.

How to fix this? Well what you guys decided was not too well thought out. I have something that can help. Put up a warning message for players that click register for hu nlh high stakes. Similar to the one with 6+ nlh, except it would say something along the lines of ďthis format you are about to enter has players who have dedicated a lot of their time to learn specifically heads up no limit Holdem. Please be warned that upon entering, you will likely be outmatched.Ē Iím very open to hearing the negative effects this warning would cause. If WPN is truly concerned about the casual player and they want to improve the overall ecosystem, then they wouldnít have a problem taking a small hit to their rake profits when these hu matches run less
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