I got an e-mail my account had been credited and figured wth I'll login and afk a bit, it's been awhile.

Got $35 and 5 $5 tickets. Entered a $5 on demand sng and the $4k guaranteed. Cashed in both for total of like $90. Had 3 more $5 tickets last night. Logged in and the other 3 $5 tickets are gone. Any ideas/explanation? I mean they were free, but still.....

The e-mail probably specified how long those tickets are valid? Usually for a very short time period for free cash and tickets.

I basically got the same email the other day, I got $75 and 5 $5 tickets however the email made zero mention of the MTT tickets, it says right on the ticket manager thing that the tickets are set to expire 9/26/2018 ( 2 days ago ) yet I can still register MTTs using them so I don't know why they are not longer showing up for you? I would check the ticket manager thing and see if they provide a expiration date though.

Just double checked. E-mail did not mention the tickets so they were just there when I logged in. They had said they expired in 2019. The 3 tickets are gone in ticket manager, and I only have one $6 steps one which has been there forever.

Also, just tried to register for a jackpot and I get a pop up that says:

"Your request has been interrupted. Please contact customer support."

I didn't have any mention of the tickets either fwiw in the email however I am still able to use them currently.

how tf do you get to the 6+ games?

its amazing how much aces hold up in plo on acr than on global

They're listed in the lobby, as 6+, mixed in with all other 6 max nlhe tables.

ty kind sir, and they are nitty as well?

I have no idea, haven't played them.

I need an admin or someone from winning to contact me. So last night i place a ryder cup wager and it accepted the bet late and i was told in live chat that the wager will not count because it was accepted after the post time, Match started at 11:10 and i placed the wager at 11:11. Fast forward to today and they will not cancel it. They are saying the match started at 12:00 which i know 100% for a fact it did not so what do i do here? they will not take screenshots to show the correct time or anything, heres the wager in question

ONLINE 09/28/2018 11:11 PM [Ticket #: 376245620] STRAIGHT BET 09/28/2018 @ 11:10 PM MU Ryder Cup Fourball [7117] T Finau / B Koepka -110 (T Finau / B Koepka vrs R McIlroy / S Garcia) 200.00 181.82

I told me wife recently that the more choices we supposedly have due to changes in technology, in fact we have fewer. That's because every company wants you to go by their rules and use their technology. We don't get to choose.

There are lots of ways to pay for something in the US: dollar bills, PayPal, debit or credit cards, Bitcoin, and others. In theory you have many choices, but in fact you often don't, and that goes beyond how you pay for things.

Examples:

Some businesses only take payment in cash, but a there are a growing number of restaurants that will not take cash.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/0...sing-Take-Cash

Winning Poker Network has several ways to deposit, but they push very hard to make you use cryptocurrency. I have been told many times in these forums that I'm stupid (or words to that effect) for not using Bitcoin.

Holdem Manager only accepts PayPal for premium support. The coaching site to which I subscribe is also PayPal only.

One network sports talk show only accepts questions and comments on Twitter (no phone calls, E-mails, Facebook or other methods.)

In my case, I would have no way to communicate with many of my relatives if I was not on Facebook. It's mandatory. E-mail and Skype were almost universal for a time, but that's no longer the case.

I don't think that where we are now is an improvement. I don't want to deal with Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Twitter and ten other communication platforms or applications in order talk to my friends and relatives. Also, since one of the sites on which I play is Americas Cardroom, I would think that US dollars would be welcome. I certainly should not be pressured to use another medium of exchange.

Oh well, in five to 10 years I'll have a communications robot that will sort out all of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawf...nt_Act_of_2006

LOL what restaurant doesn't take cash? Unless it's a high end place that's a restaurant that's gonna **** themselves over and over.

I want to echo your sentiment and show support of your posts, I smell smoke. One graph was posted... the proof of big winners is flimsy and scarce. Do you guys remember UB/AP? Remember the denial? I remember.

If someone has a power, they will want to use it. It's human nature. Human greed knows no bounds. The hand waving and dismissal does nothing except piss players off and kill the games. If villains are smart, they will hide their cheating with simple game theory and balancing, making proof of cheating hard or impossible to attain.

If no one wants to post a strong sample of evidence of the supposed crushers, what do you think will happen to player confidence? Games are already hurt.

Finding evidence of cheating is hard, especially with restrictions on collecting said evidence. However, finding evidence of the multitude of winners should be easy. This is where we stand at the moment. Why not shut down the argument with your strong proof? Where is your strong proof? Show me the money, show me the players. Show me the math, the odds, and the evidence.

Boba, as a mod and player, you have a duty to report the facts. To supply, gather, and point to the evidence. Not bury the anxieties and anecdotal evidence of inconsistencies. Shutting down legitimate discussion because of a fallacious argument (the onus is on a singular player to find and present cheating to be valid in your eyes) makes you look scared, in denial, or simply a shill.

I look in the strat section, I see little or no hands being analyzed from this network. I look in BBV, I'm not seeing the crusher graphs. I look in the cashout thread, it's filled with low post-count accounts. I'll freely admit I could be wrong and I missed the rock solid proof, but I searched for it. I want to be wrong, I really do. Can anyone supply *ample* evidence to properly quell these allegations? The site could easily be hiding the cheating and we all know it. Pokerstars provided evidence when people complained of rigging. It's called being transparent. If there is little transparency, that is the shade, that is the fog where justice will not, cannot, be served.

The talk of a 'lack of understanding of variance' and not keeping up with the strategy (lol) is a slap in the face of countless grinders and students who have dedicated their adult lives to poker, game theory, and professional competition.

Bovada and Merge have gotten wrecked from DDOS attacks in the recent past, isn't that true? Will you argue this is bad luck or ineptitude on their parts? BCP is crisp and lag free for me, isn't that interesting? No?


Honestly, I really like the software (they clearly have some smart programmers) and game volume & selection compared to their competitors, so don't get me wrong. I'm still gonna deposit (small) there because **I want to be wrong**, I hope I'm wrong, I want to believe it's run with fairness and integrity, but history and reality has shown otherwise in regards to online poker.

Hopefully you guys can keep the ad hom attacks, fallacies, bully tactics and excuses to a minimum. Speak with evidence. Don't put the onus on the players to collect the impossible evidence. Or tell us to "just have faith". Put the onus on the sites that operate in a fog and on the defenders of that model.

If you (defenders of the network, the network itself, and its protective "shroud") cannot produce evidence with high confidence the legitimacy of the claims that said network is fair beyond a reasonable doubt, *the poker community and 2+2 have every right to sound the alarm*. We have an obligation! To protect any possible future potential financial victims, and an obligation to the game of poker itself.

Their software is antiquated. It has had long periods of down time, lots of DDoS attacks, and can lag massively. I'm not sure what you're talking about as far as those items go.

I'm not a massive winner, but comfortably into the five figures over the years. I see no reason to discuss cash-out, personally, unless there is a problem. I have several players I work with and am very close with that are also very profitable, but not big money. Look at the winners of the MDS games or the BOSS large purse games. Ali, for one, has been grinding forever from low stakes and recently won the Milly. There are many players on SS that have unlocked stats to prove there are plenty of big winners.

Most of the people posting, not all, in the online threads are micro/low stakes players. We have a discord group and do tons of hand discussion/analysis. There are close to ten regards that have strong upward charts/ROI and none discuss hands on 2+2.

The burden is on the accuser to show their claim has viability. You cannot say WPN is cheating, prove me wrong and get any serious respect or discussion. Those that have presented proof/evidence get plenty of discussion. Feel and think how you like, but those feelings have no real validity. Your post was not one of outlandish claims, so you'll likely see no/few personal attacks. The poster you replied to does make such claims, hence the typical replies he gets.

Fwiw, I do not believe poker is in any way favorable to certain players or not and until a UB scandal happens then it will operate under the assumption of legitimacy.

However, I find it pertinent to say (and perhaps because I fancy myself a student of *insert* -good- Philosophy) and correct this false application of proof of burden - the internet and media has exploded with this same application while simultaneously ignoring the application to the concrete and only using a part of the abstract as a package deal. The reason this is wrong is that you cannot negate a negative with another negative. You cannot say that, because you cannot prove it then it must be true or it must be false.

For more clarification on my point an example I found helps.

"A: Animals are not rational beings.
B: Well, prove that they’re not.

A: I’m sorry, but you have to prove that they’re rational.

B is effectively asserting animals are rational beings by means of a double negative. Onus on B."

Insert WPN for animals or anything for that matter and you can see it becomes rather illogical to assert that "because you can't prove something doesn't exist must mean it does exist!"; i.e. negation of a negative with a negative.

Pretty much agree with your philosophical points. I do think unsubstantiated claims of absolute nature fall I to the idiocy fallacy/appeal to stupidity mold. I think most of the burden falls on the original claim, for most applications

Yup. I remember the small amount of denial, which ended quickly after people provided more...wait for it...evidence!

And the assertion that all people will cheat you if they can is no more helpful, and is false.

Nothing, probably. Not many people pay attention to this sort of thing. But even if you're correct, I'm not sure why you're telling us. You should be talking to WPM management. None of us are in WPN's ownership or marketing department.

And yet, people have managed to do so in the past.

Because it wouldn't shut down the argument, and most people have better things to do than gather evidence to disprove someone else's claims.

LOL, what? What facts am I supposed to report, and why do you think I'm required to gather evidence to make you happy?

If we allowed people to post their anecdotes and theories about rigged sites in every site thread, they would be constantly getting derailed. Posters come to these threads to get answers for their questions, not to wade through post after post about people's bad beats and conspiracy theories.

The argument is not mine alone, and your portrayal of it is not accurate. If people with claims of a rigged RNG hope to be taken seriously, they should provide some evidence, or make an effort to gather some. Nothing about that is fallacious.

LOL, what? So, let me get this straight. I make money from selling advertising on 2+2. WPN doesn't advertise on 2+2, a decision I was involved in and agree with. A decision that cost me money. Since I make money from other sites that advertise on 2+2, sites that compete with WPN, my financial interest would actually be in WPN looking bad. So please, tell me how you reconcile that with me being scared, in denial, or a shill. Yes, I know you said "makes you look" rather than "you are", but that doesn't make your post any less ridiculous.

Believe it or not, sometimes people are able to put aside their personal or financial interests and look at things objectively. I'm certainly not claiming that I always get things right, but I certainly try my best, and find your implications, to be honest, rather insulting.

Would it be unethical for me to ask anyone here to share their notes or HUD stats on ACR players with me? I only play occasionally so its not helpful for me to collect player notes or use a HUD on my own. Would compensate, of course.

Anyone else have an issue with the OSS RELOAD bonus? I deposited on 9/26 with this bonus code, but the bonus is not showing up in my bonus tab.

I emailed support on Friday afternoon, but I still have not heard back. I guess I have to call them. Sigh.

I'd pm the reps that posts in this thread. They are quicker than dealing with support from what I understand.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoR1YPrA...on_share_sheet

So I am playing Micro SNG's. (been playing online since the Glory Days. Very Proftably years ago...these days, well I only hang in the Micro's to pass the time. I have no thoughts of playing for high stakes these days because of all the shenanigans. I suspect many readers here similar background)

So I am up against these two BOTS. 'senseikum' & 'myravey'.
Both from Russia (which doesn't automatically make someone a BOT)
Both never play against each other.
STATS nearly identical in every way (all you WPN apologists who are about to say 280 hands is not History. Relax. They played identical ranges/situations. We got three & four handed over a few games and it made stats diverge a bit).

Normally I don't mind BOTS. But normally they are not on same Table & not playing into each other as well.

So my questions are:
1) Do I report?
Would WPN even care if I did. I think WPN wants the Rake from those two BOTS more then they want me to increase play or stakes.
Would it matter. These BOTS create new accounts all the time. They will just create a new account tomorrow and fire up the BOT.
2) Do I stop playing?
I love Playing Poker and I like Playing online.
Even swimming in the micro's though it's hard to stretch a hundred bucks long enough to get some entertainment value. (FYI I made money for years in golden age and the years right after Black Friday).

Also, Kinda juts sits really wrong with me also that I am losing real money to Cheats.
In 3 games I got three handed in two and four handed in another. Two third places and a Fourth Place. Of course the Two BOTS came in 1st & 2nd in all three games.

I tell myself it is good practice, but is it really?

What do you guys think? Is it still worth playing here?
I kinda like killing time and love poker, but odds so stacked against a regular player.