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Old 07-12-2018, 02:26 PM   #12701
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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Im writing this post because i am becoming fairly spooked by the activity im seeing on ACR in uNL and uPLO 6max tables.

what I am seeing looks like brazen multi accounting or botting, but im not sure what im looking at really. I dont have a HUD to compare stats between players. There are sets of accounts who sit at every stake level for long hours, they always sit at the same tables, and they dominate (up many many buy ins). The timing of their plays eerily similar, and they never seem to play pots against each other. When they do there are other players in the pot as well.

After seeing so much of this activity I am worried that this site is compromised and I am afraid to play there. I am hoping that I am just seeing super-skilled regs who play long hours and avoid playing pots with each other but this seems almost impossible given their behavior, win rate, timing, etc.

Does anyone have experience playing on ACR? Can anyone weigh in here and tell me if Im just seeing regs or something more sinister?

I didnt want to post this in the ACR subforum because I think it will just get lost in the fray
Name the stakes and players, I'll give my opinion

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Old 07-12-2018, 09:02 PM   #12702
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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acr doesn't make the guarantees in big tournaments but they don't care because they get the players that tilted into the money and steal their money when they go double or nothing after 10-14 hours of battle or if theyre stupid enough to go to blackjack


acr are greedy and they don't hide it
To be fair I dont think they are that greedy. I self excluded from there site and they will not reopen my account. It is what i asked for and in the long run its good they dont. If they were that greedy they would reopen it.
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Old 07-13-2018, 07:07 PM   #12703
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

they are greedy by not even giving you a chance at blackjack
they are greedy by trying to steal your money after poker tournaments
they are greedy with ****ty bonus programs
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:18 PM   #12704
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

They just cancelled the Omaha 8 tournament in the middle of the event when every other table is working fine.
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:22 PM   #12705
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They just cancelled the Omaha 8 tournament in the middle of the event when every other table is working fine.
Yeah that was ridiculous and cost me in a number of different ways, honestly I'm about done with WPN and those lame policies. All of their changes recently have just been worse and worse on top of ancient software, we need better options than this. Really disappointed in them
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:50 PM   #12706
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

I haven't been on WPN in a while; they just unwind an entire tournament?
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:54 PM   #12707
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Yep. Was playing 5 tables on there. All of a sudden I got a popup that said something like, "This tournament has been cancelled. We are refunding you the money. Sorry for the inconvenience." I clicked it off immediately because I was playing a hand in another tournament, but the table closed and the lobby closed when I tried to click "Take My Seat."

Every other tournament I was playing was working fine.

I didn't end up seeing if it met the guarantee or not (I assume it did since lotuspod says so). I was top 5 in chips and had already collected a couple bounties, but since we weren't in the money yet, none of that mattered.
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Old Yesterday, 06:47 PM   #12708
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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^^This. In 8 years of receiving checks, they were all in U.S. funds drawn on a N.Y. branch of a Canadian bank.
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I was on vacation for the past week... The thing is, if I was getting a $200 US dollar payout, then the Canadian check should have been for "more" than $200 (e.g., $250). But the check was only for $200. It didn't say "US dollars" on the check.
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Old Yesterday, 08:08 PM   #12709
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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Every other tournament I was playing was working fine.

I didn't end up seeing if it met the guarantee or not (I assume it did since lotuspod says so). I was top 5 in chips and had already collected a couple bounties, but since we weren't in the money yet, none of that mattered.
Yes it was well over the gtd, and this happens so much that I'm starting to think that people causing it are using it to angle. It would be so easy really with the kind of refund policy WPN uses.
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Old Yesterday, 08:12 PM   #12710
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Re: Ex-Official Winning Poker Network (ACR, BCP, True) Discussion Thread

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Yes it was well over the gtd, and this happens so much that I'm starting to think that people causing it are using it to angle. It would be so easy really with the kind of refund policy WPN uses.
How is it caused?
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Old Today, 01:53 PM   #12711
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Im writing this post because i am becoming fairly spooked by the activity im seeing on ACR in uNL and uPLO 6max tables.

what I am seeing looks like brazen multi accounting or botting, but im not sure what im looking at really. I dont have a HUD to compare stats between players. There are sets of accounts who sit at every stake level for long hours, they always sit at the same tables, and they dominate (up many many buy ins). The timing of their plays eerily similar, and they never seem to play pots against each other. When they do there are other players in the pot as well.

After seeing so much of this activity I am worried that this site is compromised and I am afraid to play there. I am hoping that I am just seeing super-skilled regs who play long hours and avoid playing pots with each other but this seems almost impossible given their behavior, win rate, timing, etc.

Does anyone have experience playing on ACR? Can anyone weigh in here and tell me if Im just seeing regs or something more sinister?

I didnt want to post this in the ACR subforum because I think it will just get lost in the fray
Yep, theres actually quite a few names I know personally that do this. How I first came to know about it is this:

I'd find a table.. usually 6-max.. that had one player sitting down. I'd sit down with them to play heads up and within 2 seconds the table became full from the same 2-3 other user ID's. Tested my theory out on a few other tables and sure enough, same thing.. most from the same country. I usually don't mind it, tho. Im patient at table games anyways. And if its 3vs1 or 4vs1, you always have the minimal amount to lose apposed to them. If you have the nuts, u have the nuts. Bots dont scurr me... lol
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