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06-15-2018 , 03:14 AM
I haven't played here all that long, but I guess you guys are right about WPN being a tough site to beat. 2 people were talking about HUD stats in a .02/.05 PLO game, clearly not a good sign.
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06-15-2018 , 06:19 AM
WPN is definitely not rigged, but it's by far the hardest site I've ever played on. My bb/100 pre rakeback is -2bb/100 over 72k hands since I got my computer on ACR and -15bb/100 on BCP over 27k hands and 45bi below ev ranging from 2nl all the way to 200nl with some no 1knl no rathole thrown in (Lol at brm)

I don't have data on other sites, but I think I can beat other sites for 10-25bb/100 depending on stakes and number of fish per table. ACR has 5 bad to medicre regs at one table and maybe 1 good reg and if you're lucky a fish.

It's obvious why ACR is the site of choice for grinders. Reasonable rake+good rakeback/vip +reload bonus+beast.

if I could breakeven 100nl 20 tabling I would do it 40hr/week for a year and print money.

I guess Daniel has a point... more rake is better.

Plus the MTT on ACR is the juicest, easiest to beat games ever. So there's that.
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06-15-2018 , 08:55 AM
Like all online sites the number of Computer BOTS is large. Back in the day the BOTS were so easy to identify, and easy to beat for the Most Part.
These days the BOTS are smart and hard to beat. Some are even tied into HEM & PT.

Back in the day I would have hand Histories against some players in the thousands or even more. These days since it mostly BOTS playing who change accounts frequently (to hide the trail) I often sit at a table with all "new" players.
Which is crazy given the low volume of traffic at ACR.

Online Sites could easily get rid of the BOTS. All they would have to do is frequently/randomly change the layout/design of cards and table setup - since BOTS rely on screen scrape technology.

The sites will not do this because they need players/BOTS in seats to collect rake. Sites are sacrificing the Rec player in favor of BOTS.

For all those who are about to unload on me for heresy - please Just Google SHANKY BOT or MAX IN MONTREAL. There are other places on REDDIT and 4CHAN as well for BOT makers to trade programs.

FYI - I still Love online poker, and I still Play.
Years ago I would regularly withdraw from Cake, PS, FT. These days I just play for fun and kill time, and only very small stakes. I have not made a withdraw in years.

I can't wait for the day when Legit Sites are back!
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06-15-2018 , 06:37 PM
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Omg...once again, just like a parrot. If you're going to INSIST that I "can't beat 10NL" even though I keep telling you I'm beating 50NL
Beating 50NL on soft sites doesn't equal possessing the ability to beat 10NL on a much tougher site. I beat the levels you are talking about solidly; why is the site not "rigging" it against me but just yourself? Knock on wood, in before doomswitch downswing now.
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06-15-2018 , 07:32 PM
is re entry ****ed up for anyone else?
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06-15-2018 , 08:25 PM
I have no avatar, or the option to choose one. Anyone else?
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06-15-2018 , 10:07 PM
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I have no avatar, or the option to choose one. Anyone else?
same
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06-16-2018 , 12:14 PM
I think you people need to worry about more than avatars.
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06-17-2018 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ACR Rep
We’re very excited to open this thread in order to assist you, our valued Americas Cardroom players, with any questions or concerns you may have.

We at ACR strive to improve our product everyday so feel free to use this thread for all comments and suggestions of ways we can make your online poker playing experience as enjoyable as possible.

We look forward to hearing from you!

The ACR Staff
I have approximately 105 out of 115 game ending suckouts or coolers in the last 115 mtts going back to 1 year on 3 skins most between bubble and near final tables.Enjoyable! I reported collusion multiple times but never hear back. Really Enjoyable, but its just variance rofl
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06-18-2018 , 02:54 PM
I have a step 6/7 WSOP ticket worth $540. If I were to hold on to the ticket until the WSOP steps are removed does the ticket become $540 tournament dollars? Or does it just expire wasted? Would support facilitate acquiring cash or $TD for my $540 ticket?
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06-18-2018 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HugeStacks
That I can't win on one network for 4 years (and only one network) and it's the same network that everyone knows is clearly rigged. And on top of that I'm watching the same 3 players at every stake just stay scalding hot every single day and night. Put it all together and only an idiot would keep putting money down on the table here.

There is no player in the world who can win money when all they see is 64o, 72o, 72o, 72o, 72o, 52o, 92o, etc for 4 hours straight and I'm not sitting there for tens of thousands of hands losing 5+ BI's waiting to "outrun variance". Really, I think more of us than you realize are tired of this same song and dance here in almost 2020 and considering that poker traffic is lower now globally than basically ever, the handwriting is certainly on the wall for the near future and online poker.
Your sample size matters here. Swings happen. In 2017 I played just under 500 MTTs (SNGs didn't run) on another site. I did some serious grinding, starting with $40 that had been sitting on the site for two years. I never played a tournament unless I had 100 buy-ins at that level. At the end of the year I had $480 (a bit short of my goal of $500) now that bankroll is just under a thousand.

During that time I had some nasty downswings, in fact, during three of those months I lost money. I didn't worry about that because I understand that poker is a long-term game, similar to a 162-game baseball season. The goal isn't to win every baseball game, the goal is long-term, that is, to win sometime like 90 of those 162 games and make it to the playoffs.

Poker is very similar. The goal isn't to win a tournament or to make a bunch of money in one month, although it's nice when that happens. To win at poker you have to stay focused, trust the process and make good decisions over thousands of hands. Just as with baseball, you will have nasty losing streaks, but in both cases it's part of the game.

Play a lot, get your study time in and don't worry about a bad day/week/month. If you're doing it right, you'll win over time.

Don't try to "outrun variance" because you can't. You're trying to argue with math. I played a final table today where I was very close to getting my best cash in over a month. I shoved jacks, ran into aces and I didn't even make it into the money. I sulked for five minutes, then I decided to study for a while until the next decent tournament was open for registration.

I'm still way ahead this month and June will probably be my best monthly profit in two years. Or not. Maybe the next two weeks, or the entire month of July will be a disaster. Either way, I have a plan and I'm sticking to it. You have to be able to jump on that variance train and hold on through all of the ups and downs. That's how baseball works, and that's how poker works.

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06-18-2018 , 06:57 PM
Isn't baseball played on a level field ?
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06-18-2018 , 07:22 PM
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Isn't baseball played on a level field ?
Nope, pitchers mound is raised. (It was too easy to resist.)
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06-18-2018 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
Your sample size matters here. Swings happen. In 2017 I played just under 500 MTTs (SNGs didn't run) on another site. I did some serious grinding, starting with $40 that had been sitting on the site for two years. I never played a tournament unless I had 100 buy-ins at that level. At the end of the year I had $480 (a bit short of my goal of $500) now that bankroll is just under a thousand.

During that time I had some nasty downswings, in fact, during three of those months I lost money. I didn't worry about that because I understand that poker is a long-term game, similar to a 162-game baseball season. The goal isn't to win every baseball game, the goal is long-term, that is, to win sometime like 90 of those 162 games and make it to the playoffs.

Poker is very similar. The goal isn't to win a tournament or to make a bunch of money in one month, although it's nice when that happens. To win at poker you have to stay focused, trust the process and make good decisions over thousands of hands. Just as with baseball, you will have nasty losing streaks, but in both cases it's part of the game.

Play a lot, get your study time in and don't worry about a bad day/week/month. If you're doing it right, you'll win over time.

Don't try to "outrun variance" because you can't. You're trying to argue with math. I played a final table today where I was very close to getting my best cash in over a month. I shoved jacks, ran into aces and I didn't even make it into the money. I sulked for five minutes, then I decided to study for a while until the next decent tournament was open for registration.

I'm still way ahead this month and June will probably be my best monthly profit in two years. Or not. Maybe the next two weeks, or the entire month of July will be a disaster. Either way, I have a plan and I'm sticking to it. You have to be able to jump on that variance train and hold on through all of the ups and downs. That's how baseball works, and that's how poker works.
Hmmm. Really ironic that as soon as I came downstairs and refreshed my browser I saw this post. I was just watching an inning of the Yankee game with someone and talking about how baseball is like poker and football is like chess. I played both sports for years growing up and was legitimately quite good. The 162 game sample size, along with the individual player stats that go along with it, is a great example of something that is akin to poker.

We had this summer team we kept together from like 11 to 16 years old and then a new high school coach came in and instead of just sticking with the lineup that had worked for years (we were a top team in the Hudson Valley when this was a hotbed for baseball talent in the 90's) he began toying with it every other day in what was only an 18 game regular season. Too small of a sample size to make adjustments. We went 2-16 that year and the coach was immediately fired after the season lol.

I want to sit down and play and it doesn't take much for me to get back into things and literally just see two months or more fly by while I'm enveloped in the game. I've been playing some online chess the past couple of weeks, getting all of my money together, and cleaning up my PC. I played a bit on WPN early this morning and had fun. We shall see exactly where I go or what I do but I definitely need to dig in for the long haul the next time I start taking hands and ignore short term results. That part of my mental game is still extremely weak.
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06-18-2018 , 10:40 PM
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Nope, pitchers mound is raised. (It was too easy to resist.)
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06-19-2018 , 09:26 AM
+1
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06-19-2018 , 05:03 PM
wtf cancelling tourneys right now?
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06-19-2018 , 05:05 PM
down?
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06-19-2018 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kars4kidz
down?
I am
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06-19-2018 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kars4kidz
down?
just crashed and can't reconnect for me
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06-19-2018 , 05:09 PM
down
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06-19-2018 , 05:10 PM
Usually they pause them but straight up cancelled.

"Technical issue"
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06-19-2018 , 05:15 PM
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down
+1
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06-19-2018 , 05:43 PM
down for me.. rip
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06-19-2018 , 07:28 PM
I can login now but no tables showing and it just gets stuck on configuring account
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