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05-13-2018 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by the_duece
@Pauly - If you qualified last week for the SnC tourney, you will not get a ticket until Monday or Tuesday this week for the tourney that runs next Sunday. Sometimes the ticket does not show up until later, like Saturday and sometimes I have had to contact support and say, "where's my ticket?" but I usually wait until Friday or Saturday to do that.

Hi there. Im aware of this. The first time that i won a ticket, i did not reg it so when i got auto registered, well i didnt even bother playing it. Then the next time i made sure to reg it before they gave out ticket. Then once everyone got regged, i unregged it and got tourney bucks. The thing was i then reg was future tournaments to thus save the tourney bucks for future use. Then last time i use 55 tb to reg for the recent snc tourney. Then when i unreg it, well i should have 110 tourney bucks in my account. Instead i only have 55. Im 100 percent regged for the snc tournament with the 55tb i had in my account as earlier the week when i did this, it said you are reg with your tourney bucks etc.


I have won a snc ticket the last few weeks so i should be getting it everytime. However, why am i only getting 55tb back when unregging it if i used 55tb to reg it? I should have 110tb at the moment but instead it showed only 55.


Thanks.
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05-13-2018 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Hi there. Im aware of this. The first time that i won a ticket, i did not reg it so when i got auto registered, well i didnt even bother playing it. Then the next time i made sure to reg it before they gave out ticket. Then once everyone got regged, i unregged it and got tourney bucks. The thing was i then reg was future tournaments to thus save the tourney bucks for future use. Then last time i use 55 tb to reg for the recent snc tourney. Then when i unreg it, well i should have 110 tourney bucks in my account. Instead i only have 55. Im 100 percent regged for the snc tournament with the 55tb i had in my account as earlier the week when i did this, it said you are reg with your tourney bucks etc.


I have won a snc ticket the last few weeks so i should be getting it everytime. However, why am i only getting 55tb back when unregging it if i used 55tb to reg it? I should have 110tb at the moment but instead it showed only 55.


Thanks.
Pauly could you start a blog or YouTube channel where you share all your regging and unregging adventures so that we can follow along? This is compelling stuff, please consider sharing your journey with us. Thanks
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05-13-2018 , 06:13 PM
Am I mistaken or has been WPN been basically working the last few days, say since the tourny schedule reduction? I am never up late morning/early afternoon est, has it been stable during these hours?

Just wondering out loud....that maybe, just maybe, this may point to a software issue being the culprit as opposed to a persistent & effective ddos attack? The client slows itself down to a stall when overtaxed? Maybe another reason not to let too many freerolls go off, is this plausible at all?

Just thinking out loud....maybe me batteries are just old & me flashlights dim

Last edited by ILikeFlashlights; 05-13-2018 at 06:14 PM. Reason: sentence cleanup
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05-13-2018 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ILikeFlashlights
Am I mistaken or has been WPN been basically working the last few days, say since the tourny schedule reduction? I am never up late morning/early afternoon est, has it been stable during these hours?

Just wondering out loud....that maybe, just maybe, this may point to a software issue being the culprit as opposed to a persistent & effective ddos attack? The client slows itself down to a stall when overtaxed? Maybe another reason not to let too many freerolls go off, is this plausible at all?

Just thinking out loud....maybe me batteries are just old & me flashlights dim
I kind of agree. I am by no means a tech person, and people on here who seem to have at least a little inside knowledge of the situation have said that they believe it is a DDOS attack; I find it weird that the site is running fairly smoothly with a tailed back tournament schedule. Add that to the fact that all this started happening at basically the exact moment of the last software update, and it starts to get a little fishy. I feel like the previous tournament, (how many were running at a time) caused havoc with the new update, and that is why we are seeing the scaled back version now.
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05-13-2018 , 06:37 PM
I will say, this weekend at least, the games have run smoothly.

However that is with only the ODs running for MTTs....so it is pretty meh, but it's still good to see....

I am praying they can fully recover and roll back out a respectable MTT schedule, or I am done.
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05-14-2018 , 12:27 AM
why did they get rid of the 10cent MTTs
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05-14-2018 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ILikeFlashlights
Am I mistaken or has been WPN been basically working the last few days, say since the tourny schedule reduction? I am never up late morning/early afternoon est, has it been stable during these hours?

Just wondering out loud....that maybe, just maybe, this may point to a software issue being the culprit as opposed to a persistent & effective ddos attack? The client slows itself down to a stall when overtaxed? Maybe another reason not to let too many freerolls go off, is this plausible at all?
Or maybe, just maybe, the lack of tournaments to crash and missed gtd's to screw WPN over with, coupled with the fact that WPN steadfastly refuses to pay blackmail despite quite noticeable damage to their business, has the attackers backing off due to their attacks lacking efficacy.

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Kahn
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05-14-2018 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cramble
Pauly could you start a blog or YouTube channel where you share all your regging and unregging adventures so that we can follow along? This is compelling stuff, please consider sharing your journey with us. Thanks
Yeah, YouTube would work, with some more detail, maybe 30-45 minutes daily -- it be fun to watch it
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05-14-2018 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Or maybe, just maybe, the lack of tournaments to crash and missed gtd's to screw WPN over with, coupled with the fact that WPN steadfastly refuses to pay blackmail despite quite noticeable damage to their business, has the attackers backing off due to their attacks lacking efficacy.

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Kahn
Cancelling every tournament means no missed overlays. When the 'attacks' where going on, why was I able to still play on WTN skins? How is it the cash games were still running while MTTs were frozen?

IF it was DDoS attacks and they did not hire outside help to mitigate them as they started, then it would show complete cluelessness in how to run a business. Forego hundreds of thousands in rake/fees vs paying 25-40K to a company that would have virtually negated the attacks. Economically speaking, that is a ******ed decision.

The attackers wait until after the MDS and High5 main event to complete before they hold them hostage? Coincidentally, as soon as they go back live after a major update, that's the prime time to attack.

Sorry, I'm a big fan of facts, logic and common sense. There are none of those aspects found to believe that some online business willingly agrees to forego weeks of business in exchange for the cost of a day or two worth of their income.
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05-14-2018 , 07:10 AM
Cash games had tons of problems since the problems started.
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05-14-2018 , 07:20 AM
Maybe the other 3 players were on 3rd party skins when I was playing, too. There was no issue at the time I was playing a small table and I was in a MTT that had everyone but me sitting out at the same time. Maybe a coincidence, but too many simultaneous coincidences that seem to defy a DDoS attack explanation. Our tech guy said 'why would a site shutdown so many times and lose all that revenue when they could outsource the security for a fraction of the loss'. That makes sense to me, so either far more stubborn than I could ever be, (and that is saying something) or it was not a DDoS attack.
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Cash games had tons of problems since the problems started.
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05-14-2018 , 08:38 AM
Cashgames running and turnies freezing can have a technical explanation that the servers are seperated and attacks were directed to MTT servers.
All in all, I still don't dismiss a DDOS attack, but aure as hell can relate to whomever says it's not a DDOS attack.
Yes it is possible to mitigate the attacks with outside help waaaaaaay easier than it took, and the fact they didn't fix it sooner raises the suspicion. ..
DDOS attacks are hard to mitigate, but with right knowledge/equipment/help, it is possible to mitigate way sooner than this!
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05-14-2018 , 09:33 AM
I understand WPN has to do what they have to do, but it’d be nice to have some clarity on a timeline for which they expect a real MTT schedule to return.
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05-14-2018 , 12:34 PM
That I agree
Lack of transparency is the main reason I withdrew a week ago and have no plans on coming back anytime soon.
Despite a very good software, very good rakeback and extremely good transaction department.
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05-14-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Or maybe, just maybe, the lack of tournaments to crash and missed gtd's to screw WPN over with, coupled with the fact that WPN steadfastly refuses to pay blackmail despite quite noticeable damage to their business, has the attackers backing off due to their attacks lacking efficacy.

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Kahn
This is not the first time this has happened. I suppose "attackers" could be only attacking when WPN does an update. Maybe the update somehow opens them up to this. But every time this has happened and its been several times, it has happened immediately after an update.
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05-14-2018 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
I understand WPN has to do what they have to do, but it’d be nice to have some clarity on a timeline for which they expect a real MTT schedule to return.
I agree with this. I even finally called support the other day LOL just to see what they would say on the phone. I actually got a nice support person. The support person seemed very stressed themselves and said to me they really believe it's another poker site that's attacking them like this.

She also said ACR was in the middle of expanding and they've moved to a bigger buildings for their expansion.

I said how can they expand right now if they can't even bring back a regular schedule of all the tournaments that are gone? She had no way to know the answer to that or when anything would resume. But she repeatedly said money was safe on there and that ACR would not shut down or anything. But I DK because the support person seemed very unsure and stressed about things also
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05-14-2018 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rrickir
I agree with this. I even finally called support the other day LOL just to see what they would say on the phone. I actually got a nice support person. The support person seemed very stressed themselves and said to me they really believe it's another poker site that's attacking them like this.

She also said ACR was in the middle of expanding and they've moved to a bigger buildings for their expansion.

I said how can they expand right now if they can't even bring back a regular schedule of all the tournaments that are gone? She had no way to know the answer to that or when anything would resume. But she repeatedly said money was safe on there and that ACR would not shut down or anything. But I DK because the support person seemed very unsure and stressed about things also
I've had two separate withdrawals during the DDOS attacks that were sent to me within a week (1 check and 1 BitCoin transfer). If the site were in deep trouble, I would expect a delay, especially considering I have to imagine a lot of people are trying to withdraw right now.

I'm sure I'd be stressed if I were in customer service, too. Lots of angry players demanding answers that they don't necessarily have. And they aren't transparent about anything up front, so the players are angry (as they should be).

I don't know if it's DDOS attacks or if their software update makes them vulnerable, but the idea that they're using this as an excuse to cut down their MTT schedule is ludicrous for me. Every context clue says that's not the case.

Either way, I appreciate you adding some color since I haven't called them to complain (yet).
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05-14-2018 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Cancelling every tournament means no missed overlays. When the 'attacks' where going on, why was I able to still play on WTN skins? How is it the cash games were still running while MTTs were frozen?

IF it was DDoS attacks and they did not hire outside help to mitigate them as they started, then it would show complete cluelessness in how to run a business. Forego hundreds of thousands in rake/fees vs paying 25-40K to a company that would have virtually negated the attacks. Economically speaking, that is a ******ed decision.

The attackers wait until after the MDS and High5 main event to complete before they hold them hostage? Coincidentally, as soon as they go back live after a major update, that's the prime time to attack.

Sorry, I'm a big fan of facts, logic and common sense. There are none of those aspects found to believe that some online business willingly agrees to forego weeks of business in exchange for the cost of a day or two worth of their income.
By day, he's an upstanding, conservative, straight-laced citizen, a big fan of facts, logic and common sense, a pillar of the community. But at night, he hits the internet, and he lets loose with wild speculation, crazy half-baked free association and loony conspiracy theories!

It's ... dewdman!

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05-14-2018 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cramble
By day, he's an upstanding, conservative, straight-laced citizen, a big fan of facts, logic and common sense, a pillar of the community. But at night, he hits the internet, and he lets loose with wild speculation, crazy half-baked free association and loony conspiracy theories!

It's ... dewdman!

Well, at night I go to bed 10 NY time because I'm up by 3 every morning. I save those fears and degenerating for the early AM with my espresso [WPN] Americas Cardroom, BCP, TruePoker Ex-Official Discussion Thread
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05-14-2018 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rrickir
I agree with this. I even finally called support the other day LOL just to see what they would say on the phone. I actually got a nice support person. The support person seemed very stressed themselves and said to me they really believe it's another poker site that's attacking them like this.

She also said ACR was in the middle of expanding and they've moved to a bigger buildings for their expansion.

I said how can they expand right now if they can't even bring back a regular schedule of all the tournaments that are gone? She had no way to know the answer to that or when anything would resume. But she repeatedly said money was safe on there and that ACR would not shut down or anything. But I DK because the support person seemed very unsure and stressed about things also
Hi, Hope you are doing well!!!

MTT schedule on ACR is weird. Maybe they don't want to put up to many guarantees they have to eat til more people come back
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05-14-2018 , 07:18 PM
Reality check. There’s no DDOS attacks. It’s acr and their incompetence.

Bunch of mindless monkeys
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05-14-2018 , 07:26 PM
The move is an interesting tidbit. Could explain a lot of things but why not just be upfront about it.
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05-14-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by the_duece
The move is an interesting tidbit. Could explain a lot of things but why not just be upfront about it.

Passing the blame


Rather than say, wow we can’t operate our own business. We run updates and it breaks. We are dumb.



Easier to say.... we’ve been attacked!!!
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05-14-2018 , 10:48 PM
I tried to log in and my client just says configuring. White screen. I uninstalled and reinstalled still the same thing anyone having this issue
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05-15-2018 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
Reality check. There’s no DDOS attacks. It’s acr and their incompetence.

Bunch of mindless monkeys
and shills ...
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