Assuming bots would play face up is a big misconception, it may have been so in 2008, but today they're striving for balance with no care for how weird the line may look while humans - especially less skilled ones - are more likely to get stuck into their patterns. The botfarm on ACR is actually very aggressive btw, you are either playing random nitty recreationals or your sample is too small.

Yeah ive understood bots can play well nowadays. There still is shitty bots or bots in development though.

Just to add some more info that could be interesting to some:

my rake seems to be around 9.75BB/100 at PLO50.
With deposit bonus, "The beast" rake race payout(very easy to get), VIP program and VIP points i calculated that ive gotten around 55% rakeback on my hands played.

Is it possible to keep the "The Beast" program and swap VIP program for 27% rakeback? If so that would give me even more rakeback.

Yepp, everyone take part in the beast no matter what vip system is used (27% or points).

AFAIK you can swap once between them. If u made 18k+ rake/year u'd better stay in point system otherwise go for 27%!

Very cool. With "The Beast" paying out weekly + the 27% flat rb you have a very large overall RB% if you are a low volume player. Playing soft games with the deposit bonus + rb im getting like 5BB/100 in rakeback/bonus.

Im not gonna complain anymore about robots at my table with this disgusting graph for the last 2 days
https://imgur.com/VbrOvnt

Can someone remind me how ACR calculates RB?


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Weighted contributed. 27% of total rake minus any bonus funds you cleared and cashed out. Also not including the rake they take for The Beast (not additional rake, but will mess up your tracker rb).

Example: Rake $110, cash out $10 in bonus, get 27% RB of $100.

Thanks.

Forgetting the bonus for a second is that 27% of the rake that I put into the pot or 27% of the rake that was collected on pots that I contributed to?


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Why aren't posts like this in the other thread dealing with payouts?

anyone else having trouble with hud and pokertracker ? Hud and hh just showing / saving for half of my tables.

How long has the Russians have had phil nagy in there pocket?

Is it allowed to grind the first deposit bonus on all skins or must one stick to acr for example?

Were you ever able to get an answer to this? I'm about to have an extra Venom ticket I'd like to sell and potentially invest a stake in.

It can't be done on the player-to-player forum?

pics plz hopefully signed by phil nagy himself as well

Whats the expected prize Pool for venom actually going to be this round?

It's at $10 million, with around $2.1 for first place. It's pretty massive.

If anyone is interested on this thread, I have a spare Venom ticket I'm looking to part with. Since this exchange/transfer needs to occur through WPN support, there is zero chance of fraud occurring.

If you're interested, feel free to send a PM, thanks.

Hi guys,

I am a recreational player and usually put decent volume during a month. 7 months are almost over this year and I have received 4300 in rakeback (via 27% deal).
This comes to receiving around 600 in rb each month. With this calculation I would received about 7200 in rakeback by the end of the year which means I would have paid around 27000 in rake.
So I have a few questions related to making the decision between sticking with 27% rakeback or switching to Elite Benefits:

1. Is now a good time to email support and request them to switch me to Elite Benefits? If so, how much cashback will I start with?
2. Or should I wait till January 2022 to email them?
3. What % cashback will I receive (via elite benefits) if I pay 27000 in rake?

here is the pic in original size

rakeback vip system

I understand the above table, but what I need to know is if I should contact support now to switch me over? Will they use my already paid rake (while under 27% rb) toward determining my level for Elite Benefits for next year?
Or should I wait till January 2022 to request my switch over?

You would want to do it the beginning of the year.

You need to get to at least General to make benefits worth it over 27% RB, I highly doubt that you are going to get there by the end of the year without putting in some volume.

Im not even sure that you are on pace to get there right now, you probably shouldn't switch over at all unless you are planning to put in a lot more volume.

Probably just worn by him. Crayons don't write well on socks.

What??? I have already generated 16k in rake this year, from what I have read you have to generate only 18k in rake in a year to be better off with Elite Benefits rather than 27% rakeback.

i think they forgot something Just installed the latest update and not a single cash game is going. Or tourney for that matter.

I had the same issue, but it's fixed for me now

Ok well hopefully it'll be working tonight.

Anyone able to access Blitz as of now?