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Originally Posted by ak97b
Hundreds of shoves everyday. Several Thousands of shoves every month. You better believe that it stacks.
Okay, so I feel like this conversation's getting to the point that we might be parodied by one of those Ace Attorney YouTube memes at some point, so let me just reply to this one sentence and try to tie a bow on this:
It does NOT, in fact, add up to much.
Assuming an all-in and a call before the river happens once every 100 hands (which seems generous for a 100bb+ game), that's running it twice 2,500 per month for your hypothetical mega-grinder who's playing a quarter million hands per month. Let's assume RIT costs you a full second on average, that's a total of 40 minutes at one table at any one time. As you point out, no one is sitting there staring at In order to play a quarter million hands in a month, you'd need to be playing 1500 hands per hour over a 170 work-month, which is like 8 tabling Blitz or 15-tabling standard SH tables. Since, as you point out, no one is just sitting there staring at the two runouts of an all-in sweating the results, it's not actually costing you a full 40 minutes of productivity; it's just taking an extra second to deal another hand on one of your 8 Blitz tables, so you lose 5 minutes of actual volume, or a little over 100 hands. Even assuming you're a 5bb/100 crusher while 8-tabling 100z, you're losing $5 a month.
Meanwhile, the variance for playing 250,000 hands with 100 SD (it'd be MUCH higher for a player GIIing before the river once every hundred hands) is 5,000bbs. Of course you'd have to isolate how much of your variance is due to AIEV, and since I'm not a statistician, that's unfortunately where I get out of my depth. In any case, we're talking about shaving several hundred or likely thousands of dollars worth of variance off your monthly ledger, which is significant if you're using poker to pay the bills.
Aaaaaaand all of that math is fairly irrelevant because hand volume is an efficient market seeing as how, ya know, people 8-tabling Blitz get to determine how many tables they're playing. If they really were shoving before the river so much that having RIT ticked or unticked were significantly slowing down their hand volume, then they'd be able to play another table. Now, you may be thinking it's really silly to suggest a reg can just fire up another table when they have RIT checked, but the reason that's silly makes my point for me: RIT doesn't really slow gameplay down in any remotely mentionable degree.
And all of THAT is assuming extremely steep assumptions about things like play volume that aren't common and likely weren't the impetus for the poster a while ago being like "gee, a lot of regs sure do have RIT turned off."
Anyway, I hope you have a very nice day and that we both remember to do something kind for someone :thumbs up: