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09-18-2019 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by trambopoline
Cliffs: Hand histories aren’t saving correctly, money is randomly missing from peoples accounts, points aren’t adding up correctly....and to top it off they refuse to send hand histories so at least one could do their own research and figure out the accounting by themselves. Yikes
just to play devils advocate; you might have to spend a tiny bit of money to have a working hud at another site
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09-18-2019 , 11:58 AM
It always pays to have more than one site at disposal.
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09-18-2019 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfbook
Blitz is up for NLH. My guess was for after the High Five Tournament Series. But let's see if Blitz can stay on this time.
Only nl10 through, whats up with that?
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09-18-2019 , 02:55 PM
Why dont we all collectively start grimming all the known bot accounts
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09-18-2019 , 03:01 PM
This time Blitz seems stable. Les hope they can keep it
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09-18-2019 , 04:19 PM
I told them to send me all my hand histories because some hands are not there.
This is response that I got. I figure that too many people are bugging them with this issue so they've just decided to say that it's not working for now.

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Hello,

We hope this email finds you well, it is a pleasure for us to assist you.

We understand that you are not able to see the hand histories on your account, however right now we are not able to send you hand histories, as this feature is note working right now, as soon as the feature is back and working we will gladly assist you with your request.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can do for you!

Kind Regards,
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09-18-2019 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruslanas
Only Blitz nl10 through, whats up with that?
The thing keeps crashing and freezing/disappearing buy ins that they are starting small on this 8th relaunch.
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09-18-2019 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
No, I don't agree with the points I have, they also refuse to even respond to my emails that I sent regarding the missing points. This seems to be a major issue.
Ok thanks for responding I have this exact problem. I found the last 3 month really unfair for my prescriptive. The site was down for weeks at a time, I wasn't able to check or redeem points yet they expect me to keep up pace business as usual or they take your rakeback away.
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09-18-2019 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ment52
You must be daft if you think banning a few countries will stop a botfarm making millions a year from playing. They'll just get VPNs and new identities or just find new operators from other countries. Only thing that needs to be done is banning these bots that are so obvious a toddler could locate them.
This. There was a bot that popped up with a Thailand location this week (dilemmafixer). I am not convinced that all of the bot operators are even located in the former Eastern Bloc.

They suspended my account again. They are accusing me of "angle shooting" claiming that I was grimming. I do not open sit so how could I grim? This is just another example of how clueless WPN "security" is to harass an honest human player. This being said, there is legit grimming going on at high stakes by players such as "GiveMeAChicken" and "Artichoke2" (St1ckman) that I have reported countless times and nothing has been done about it.

Bot army is marching on without a care in the world. Phil Nagy should be ashamed of himself.

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Originally Posted by 2WhiteCastle
Why dont we all collectively start grimming all the known bot accounts
The bots will grim if you sit them HU. Don't waste your time reporting them though. Bots are protected by WPN. Honestly I think it is likely that WPN may be running the bots themselves.

Last edited by HandOfGod666; 09-18-2019 at 05:55 PM.
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09-18-2019 , 06:29 PM
For anyone wondering what the hell is "grimming."

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Originally Posted by ladybruin
Around 2004 Grimstarr on Pokerstar (and later Full Tilt) would play his button and then leave and go start another table and do it again. He was the original gangster of doing this that now that particular play is called Grimming.

Pokerstars finally started banning players for this type of buttoning, after warnings of course. And the buttoning warning was not just for the grimmers, but for players that played regular heads up matches, but always left after playing their button to the point that over weeks or months they had played their button 50+ times more than their heads up opponents.

Report the Grimmers and post here with WPN email response. The angling needs to stop on this issue and many others.
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09-18-2019 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
For anyone wondering what the hell is "grimming."
Grimming is specifically open sitting, playing more buttons than your opponent and then leaving after playing the button.

I do not consider checking sit out next BB when a 6max table player count drops below 4 (because beast points are generated far less) to be grimming, this is just a table breaking if I did not start the table. Grimming can only be heads up. It is still grimming if you open sit, get the button first, play a bunch of hands then leave after your button as you derived an unfair advantage but the pure form of grimming is just sitting to play ONLY the button and then leaving after one hand. Players like artichoke2 and givemeachicken are doing pure grimming at high stakes (5/10+) Repats12 is "soft" grimming at high and midstakes, he will play a number of hands hu but will always play an extra button which is still grimming. Nothing is done about this(or ever will be). I am not sure that the "game integrity team" even knows what the definition of grimming is. The only time the player that joined the open sitter recieves the button first is when the 2 players had previously played and the open sitter had got up from the table (not sat out) the previous HU interaction first. So the grimmer can just sit out and wait for the other player to leave (which they normally will because now they are effectively open sitting).

I do not table start so I can't grim. My account is still suspended which means I am unfairly put at a disadvantage in the Beast. The incompetence of WPN is truly astounding.

Last edited by HandOfGod666; 09-18-2019 at 06:47 PM.
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09-18-2019 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IamLuisGamble
This time Blitz seems stable. Les hope they can keep it
+1

Being able to play 2-3k hands in 3-4 hours is bliss.

Does HUD work on Blitz?
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09-18-2019 , 07:13 PM
Buttons should be 50/50 randomized for game starting hu situations. What is funny now is that when tables break and 2 players are left the first hand of hu actually has the bb playing in position. So even if this was considered grimming, there would actually be no advantage derived from playing oop for one hand. So what ends up happening if the SB does NOT leave is that they play 2 hands in a row out of position postflop!
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09-18-2019 , 07:17 PM
Last night, I saw there was supposed to be a $55 Stud 8 tourney today, I think as part of the High series, and now I can't find it anywhere. Anyone have any insight on this?
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09-18-2019 , 07:23 PM
"We understand your explanation. Although that hasn't happened since you have quite some sessions with only one hand played. Please reply acknowledging that a minimum of 6 hands must be played per session unless you bust out."

I just got this email from support after waiting 2 hours and 3 phone calls to support. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean? I did not grim anyone but they are forcing me to admit to grimming? I stated that I did not grim.

Update: They finally unsuspended my account after I repeated back what he said to me via email. I was locked out of my account and unfairly disadvantaged in the beast for over 2 full hours.

Last edited by HandOfGod666; 09-18-2019 at 07:28 PM.
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09-18-2019 , 08:58 PM
Got another "failed human verification test" dialog sitting underneath my tables. No captcha once again. This time the dialog had a different look to it and it said please click here to prove you are in front of your computer. Seems like WPN does not want my business anymore.
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09-18-2019 , 10:08 PM
Someone definitely spent serious time programming and designing this new "glitch" dialog that notifies you that you have failed a captcha. This is quite disturbing seeing that this is what WPN is prioritizing right now.
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09-18-2019 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
Got another "failed human verification test" dialog sitting underneath my tables. No captcha once again. This time the dialog had a different look to it and it said please click here to prove you are in front of your computer. Seems like WPN does not want my business anymore.
I don't know about anybody else but I find it very curious how you are specifically getting the captcha or bot checks. Seriously, is this the purest example of irony that the person most leading the anti-bot charge is getting penalized for not passing "bot-security"? wow...no words dude, that's just messed up. Do they know your ACR handle associated with the 2+2 handle?
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09-18-2019 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by moss84
I don't know about anybody else but I find it very curious how you are specifically getting the captcha or bot checks. Seriously, is this the purest example of irony that the person most leading the anti-bot charge is getting penalized for not passing "bot-security"? wow...no words dude, that's just messed up. Do they know your ACR handle associated with the 2+2 handle?
Yes they do and I suspect that could be a reason. I am the only one that has reported these fake failure dialogs so far. Plenty of others have gotten the actual captchas so I'm not being specifically targeted with those.
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09-18-2019 , 11:12 PM
PLO Blitz. Where is the PLO Blitz? There are 3 stakes of NLH Blitz. Stop f$@#ing the PLO players.
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09-18-2019 , 11:29 PM
somebody start this blitz with me
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09-18-2019 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
This. There was a bot that popped up with a Thailand location this week (dilemmafixer). I am not convinced that all of the bot operators are even located in the former Eastern Bloc.

They suspended my account again. They are accusing me of "angle shooting" claiming that I was grimming. I do not open sit so how could I grim? This is just another example of how clueless WPN "security" is to harass an honest human player. This being said, there is legit grimming going on at high stakes by players such as "GiveMeAChicken" and "Artichoke2" (St1ckman) that I have reported countless times and nothing has been done about it.

Bot army is marching on without a care in the world. Phil Nagy should be ashamed of himself.



The bots will grim if you sit them HU. Don't waste your time reporting them though. Bots are protected by WPN. Honestly I think it is likely that WPN may be running the bots themselves.
Honestly, I think they are, or else the site would get DDoS'd.
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09-19-2019 , 05:50 AM
Anyone missing funds today? My HM2 has me down 143$ but the cashier has me down $449 (which is close to impossible since I play a mix of 25-100NL, majority is at 50 and the games the whole time felt passive overall so losing that much seems close to impossible). I had tables randomly closed on me during play and maybe that froze some of my funds? I don't know, first time I've had a discrepancy this big.

I messaged support and Winning_TD already hope I hear something good from them soon.
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09-19-2019 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SGR
Anyone missing funds today? My HM2 has me down 143$ but the cashier has me down $449 (which is close to impossible since I play a mix of 25-100NL, majority is at 50 and the games the whole time felt passive overall so losing that much seems close to impossible). I had tables randomly closed on me during play and maybe that froze some of my funds? I don't know, first time I've had a discrepancy this big.

I messaged support and Winning_TD already hope I hear something good from them soon.
ACR/WPN, in case you're reading this, best way to solve this is to give me my hand histories. My database has me playing a total of 2,110 hands today (870 at 50NL for -92.89$, 682 at 100NL for -60.53$ and 558 at 25NL for +10.77$.
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09-19-2019 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SGR
ACR/WPN, in case you're reading this, best way to solve this is to give me my hand histories. My database has me playing a total of 2,110 hands today (870 at 50NL for -92.89$, 682 at 100NL for -60.53$ and 558 at 25NL for +10.77$.
Fo to your financial history and look at the dates, if a y show the year 0000, then the funds on that table are where its held up. If you PM'd winning_td, he usually gets back to people quickly

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Originally Posted by SGR
What do you mean by "if a y show the year 0000"? You mean if year shows as 0000 instead of 2019?
Typo, sorry.

The year.... if you see the date of a game showing something like 9/18/0000, that's where missing money is. Take screen shots of those games and forward to winning_td.

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