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02-19-2019 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealQB
Do we have any record of a live player running like God all the time...or just online ones?
Justin Bonomo, Fedor Holz, any player to ever win the WSOPME or anything similar?

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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
I wish there wasn't all these clueless fish posting bad beat stories and crying about rigging, when there is a grave matter at hand.....
Yes, like fixing the bad software, improving servers, reducing late reg, showing mucked cards, etc, but instead there are 600 pages of 90% the same thing.
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02-19-2019 , 11:04 AM
The truth about ACR is simple, nobody really knows.

The answer is, if you feel cheated, just don't play. I have a love/hate relationship with the site, I will quit playing there for a few months after getting beat by runner-runner on three tables in a row and then slowly work my way back in.

The bots don't bother me as I just adjust my play.

What does bother me is:
1. No hand Histories
2. No list of Jackpot winners
3. No odds posted for the "Double or nothing" games
4. Seemingly more bad beats that all other sites combined (IMO)
5. Cashouts cancelled all the time for any reason they can find
6. No transparency (Common among all unregulated sites)

But, in the end, it is my choice to take a chance and play ACR - if they have house bots winning the money, if the double or nothing is 95/5, if they set the software to make sure the net depositors win vs regs, that's the chance I am taking every time I play there. There are SO MANY other sites to play, pick one you feel comfortable with, but stop complaining about being cheated on ACR, remember it is YOUR CHOICE to play there.
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02-19-2019 , 11:56 AM
^^^ This. Help somebody!
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02-19-2019 , 12:50 PM
Im not going to quote ownit's full message but DON!
https://wordpress.americascardroom.e...le-or-nothing/

As for house players, I have said many many times these do not exist on any site as far as im aware. I know people have their thoughts about certain sites and certain tournaments but if we had house players we wouldnt of overlaid 15 mil + last year.
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02-19-2019 , 12:57 PM
Maybe instead of blaming super users, bots etc.. maybe work harder on your game?

There is a reason one of the best in the world (Ali) was the number 1 winner on ACR last year, and it wasn't because ACR decided to mark him as a superuser, lol.
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02-19-2019 , 12:59 PM
There was no DDoS or lag in the 300k the other day. Loving that fact!
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02-19-2019 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ownit
There are SO MANY other sites to play, pick one you feel comfortable with, but stop complaining about being cheated on ACR, remember it is YOUR CHOICE to play there.
This is not true for some. A lot of sites that say USA players allowed don't actually allow some states. I'm in Kansas last time I tried downloading ignition it said not accepting players from your zip code. Same with bovada.
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02-19-2019 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Spacerat65
This is not true for some. A lot of sites that say USA players allowed don't actually allow some states. I'm in Kansas last time I tried downloading ignition it said not accepting players from your zip code. Same with bovada.


Try again, I was not allowed forever being from New York, just recently was able to download and sign up.
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02-19-2019 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Spacerat65
This is not true for some. A lot of sites that say USA players allowed don't actually allow some states. I'm in Kansas last time I tried downloading ignition it said not accepting players from your zip code. Same with bovada.
Global Poker , BetOnline or maybe even InterTops are viable options you should try. Why keep trying to force yourself to eat the whopper when big macs can be a tasty alternative too...
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02-19-2019 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by moss84
Global Poker , BetOnline or maybe even InterTops are viable options you should try. Why keep trying to force yourself to eat the whopper when big macs can be a tasty alternative too...
Speaking for myself: Because I'm stubborn lol. And also, whether I like the way things are here or not, they do make the other networks seem very, very profitable in comparison.
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02-19-2019 , 02:55 PM
Does anyone have bug sometimes when you can only minbet and minraise? There is no betting slider. Also, area on the left miss "auto muck" and "straddle" while "sit out bb" is darken so I can't click it.
Am I the only one with this bug?
(I play on BCP)
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02-19-2019 , 09:48 PM
^^
My BCP client is almost unusable right now and I've confirmed through other people as well that they have the same issues with their clients. It is not the same as you say, but there are obvious bugs in the software that render the clients useless, especially when traffic is high.
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02-20-2019 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by VeryBadThings
Does anyone have bug sometimes when you can only minbet and minraise? There is no betting slider. Also, area on the left miss "auto muck" and "straddle" while "sit out bb" is darken so I can't click it.
Am I the only one with this bug?
(I play on BCP)
This is probably the most pernicious software bug that I have experienced. Also the time bank reserve activated sound glitch is unreal (you have to disable this sound, I tried using custom sounds and couldn't find one that wasn't annoying on loop).
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02-20-2019 , 01:16 AM
I'm on bcp and haven't had glitch issues past few days anyways. had the sound one last week on acr actually.
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02-20-2019 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
I'm on bcp and haven't had glitch issues past few days anyways. had the sound one last week on acr actually.
If you grind like I do, you would get the sound glitch every single session. I'm talking 15+ tables.
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02-20-2019 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
If you grind like I do, you would get the sound glitch every single session. I'm talking 15+ tables.
That sound glitch has been around for years. Incredibly annoying and definitely too distracting to continue a multitabling session during.
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02-20-2019 , 04:55 PM
I’m requesting some clarification on the reasoning behind removal of high stakes hu hypers. I understand that this was intended to help the casual player not get destroyed by the hu gto wizards/bots. I understood this move. Playing with an edge is the goal for poker players but some players don’t realize what they’re doing when they sit a Russian hu.

But then you turn and lower rake in reg speeds from 10% to 4% (if I remember correctly)
How was it not considered this could make things worse? Make a way lower variance format with waaaay more hands to play for those who may be cheating a much more viable option of printing money. 4% rake on $500 reg speeds? That’s just straight asking for a toxic hu environment.

Also why not o8 reg speeds? That’s my focus game but o8/Omaha players are just forgotten about. We are left with $30.70 hypers. No cheating goes on in o8 but we suffered consequences of a toxic nlh environment. Ignition has reg speed $50s; wpn should offer same thing.

How to fix this? Well what you guys decided was not too well thought out. I have something that can help. Put up a warning message for players that click register for hu nlh high stakes. Similar to the one with 6+ nlh, except it would say something along the lines of “this format you are about to enter has players who have dedicated a lot of their time to learn specifically heads up no limit Holdem. Please be warned that upon entering, you will likely be outmatched.” I’m very open to hearing the negative effects this warning would cause. If WPN is truly concerned about the casual player and they want to improve the overall ecosystem, then they wouldn’t have a problem taking a small hit to their rake profits when these hu matches run less
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02-21-2019 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Ya, if they had more tourneys with less late reg time I'd actually play some. As is I don't touch those half a day tourneys. I don't have the patience for that nonsense.
That's one of the main reasons that I like them. I've noticed that in a lot of tournaments of 6+ hours, both live and online, players fade or get grumpy after a while.

I've played live tournaments where players actually have said out loud that they were tired, they complained about having to get up for work in the morning etc. Best tells ever!

I sometimes see that in online chat as well. I adjust to impatient and tired players by betting small to make the tournament last longer. I've seen players make bad shoves just to finish a tournament.
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02-21-2019 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
That's one of the main reasons that I like them. I've noticed that in a lot of tournaments of 6+ hours, both live and online, players fade or get grumpy after a while.

I've played live tournaments where players actually have said out loud that they were tired, they complained about having to get up for work in the morning etc. Best tells ever!

I sometimes see that in online chat as well. I adjust to impatient and tired players by betting small to make the tournament last longer. I've seen players make bad shoves just to finish a tournament.
I'm recovering from both Shingles and RSI lol. I can't spend the kind of time I'd like to at the screen to play a tournament that long. That's why I, myself, was grumpy about them the other day. At 100%, at this point, I think I'd play a few here and there. I still prefer the cash games more currently.
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02-21-2019 , 10:09 AM
Quite strange: I was sitting at a table, mid session, and I was just replaced by the next player on the waiting list. Out of nowhere. I wasn't sitting out and had just finished a hand. Four 80%+ beats in the same hour yesterday and now this. It's these kinds of things that draw such suspicion to this network.

edit: Same player that replaced me replaced other players the same way on other tables. Basically, he didn't have to wait at all and just replaced someone at each table he joined the "waiting list" for. Swaz715.
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02-21-2019 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
That's one of the main reasons that I like them. I've noticed that in a lot of tournaments of 6+ hours, both live and online, players fade or get grumpy after a while.

I've played live tournaments where players actually have said out loud that they were tired, they complained about having to get up for work in the morning etc. Best tells ever!

I sometimes see that in online chat as well. I adjust to impatient and tired players by betting small to make the tournament last longer. I've seen players make bad shoves just to finish a tournament.
See I'm just a casual tourney player, they are fun if they are done in about 4 hours or so. Unless it's a big tourney I don't see the point in putting in that many hours when I'm most likely just gonna bust our or min cash. I'm sure a lot of other casual tourney players feel the same.

Back in the day I used to play them pretty frequently when I got the urge to. I've basically played 0 tourneys on this network with any significant buy in just cuz sitting at the computer for 8 hours makes playing russian roulette look like an exotic vacation.
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02-21-2019 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealQB
Quite strange: I was sitting at a table, mid session, and I was just replaced by the next player on the waiting list. Out of nowhere. I wasn't sitting out and had just finished a hand. Four 80%+ beats in the same hour yesterday and now this. It's these kinds of things that draw such suspicion to this network.

edit: Same player that replaced me replaced other players the same way on other tables. Basically, he didn't have to wait at all and just replaced someone at each table he joined the "waiting list" for. Swaz715.
Dude that's just variance and a waiting list. Welcome to poker.
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02-21-2019 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Dude that's just variance and a waiting list. Welcome to poker.
I'm not really worried about the variance. My mental game needs tons of work but I don't really even think twice about beats at the tables anymore. Not when I'm getting the money in good. The waiting list, however, is another story. I was at my table, not sitting out, and the second the guy joined the waiting list I was replaced. Not a huge deal but I've never seen that happen before and he replaced other players at other tables, too. Let's see if it happens to anyone else at higher stakes today.
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02-21-2019 , 01:21 PM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 119.5 BB (VPIP: 29.17, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 25)
UTG: 176 BB (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
Hero (CO): 101.5 BB
BTN: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 11.40, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 116)
SB: 152.5 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 15.28, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 74)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB raises to 13 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Flop: (27 BB, 2 players) 2 K 7
SB bets 13 BB, Hero raises to 45 BB, SB raises to 139.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 43.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (204 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (204 BB, 2 players) 8

Hero shows 7 7 (Four of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 55%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
SB shows A K (Two Pair, Kings and Sevens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 194 BB
Rake paid 7 BB

3 BB was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.

Can't really complain about this runout.
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02-21-2019 , 01:47 PM
My question is what has happened in the last week? Since last Thursday (2/14/2019), at least 80% of the players at the tables I play are people I have never seen before.
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