Because all the cool kids who love variance use Bitcoin.

FWIW, their tournament policy has been the same for as long as I can recall playing there (probably around 5 years give or take).

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Kahn

Could you lower the minimum entrants for the new tourneys in early afternoon european time? Otherwise they're never starting (most of them have 50 entrants minimum)

May wanna post here were Rep would see. https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...pm-me-1658129/

Hello, I'm a nl25 6max poker player. I just found this bots in winning poker netwok that play in my level. I don't Know if the bots are playing in other levels. They are good bots and all of them play the same way.
I hope that winning poker can fix this problem.

The nicks of the bots are: Beautyh1ps, K1ngBradley, haba_haba, btwiwin,
wahtEvvER, Mumintroll, Farmboy11, lablador1010, urmiine, bigant33, PersonaGrata2016, jackofALL11, procustean, GorgeoLexi, Godbadugly.

Others that I no have a lot of hands but I know they are bots for the: Bet
missed last action on flop. The nicks are: Beav1s, SassyLaura, 4everdrunk.

You can see how all of them have similar stats.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YxL9dH.png

same issue

One of my guys just tried to set it up on his Mac and same thing.

Ok, that issue has now been fixed, but now when i get to the login screen, i click on "create new account" and the whole client goes blank... sigh...

https://gyazo.com/cf1883939ad83ed40f639cf72772dea7 - login screen
https://gyazo.com/a0f6e464a7fdd4b0306148884e2d32f2 - blank

Normally I don't think much of posts who say that poker is "rigged", full of bots, or whatever, but I came across a similar complaint somewhere else, unfortunately, I don't remember where it was. This post and the other post that I saw go into considerable detail.

I think that it's about time that someone from WPN responds to this. I suggest that you write to their support, including a copy of your post and tell them that we are waiting to see their response.

Figured I'd bump this since the sub-forum's closed now.

Seems they've turned on their anti-botting CAPTCHA stuff but still no word on showing mucked hands...

Well they couldn't even be bothered to respond to 2+2 heads about the player's cheating issues and got their advertising and sub forum pulled. I doubt they will do anything about mucked cards.

Hopefully whoever works at WPN grows the **** up. Reminds me of me and my buddies in our early 20s trying our hand at business, just pure amateur hour.

Captcha is a decent start, but it's far from foolproof. As long as someone is present to solve the captcha then they would still be able to run the bot before and after. It should cut down on some of the volume for now, but it can't be their only solution if they hope to deter all of the bot users.

I'm sure they won't because it's been a complaint for 5+ years now, it just always amuses me that they claim it's "too complicated" to figure out yet they manage to jam in a CAPTCHA in like 5 days.

Will you guys show mucked hands?

For some reason I'm not able to post a reply in this thread
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...login-1704752/
I've also never posted anything before and evidently that means I cannot PM anyone; so I'll post here...

I'm having the same issue (mentioned in link above) where I can log into the ACR client, but then nothing responds to my clicks after that. I've reviewed the logs and found the problem appears to be with PokerClientBrowser.exe; it will not launch for some reason. I installed on another PC and it works, but I've used it on the PC, where it is currently not working, for 5+ years and would like to continue on it.
Win 7 Pro
I've uninstalled/re-installed many times
updated Java and Flash
many reboots
tried installing on different drive
tried running as Admin
etc, etc

Consistent error from the debug.log
[0301/114936.229:ERROR:gpu_main.cc(164)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
[0301/114936.233:ERROR:browser_gpu_channel_host_factory. cc(107)] Failed to launch GPU process.

PokerClientBrowser is possibly a spy feature that doubles as a cashier

What I notice is that when you start the ACR client AmericasCardroom.exe enters the Task Manager, but not PokerClientBrowser.exe. It's not until after you log in that PokerClientBrowser.exe starts and you get their pop-up promotion of the day. I do not get that pop-up any more and you cannot click anything until you do. This behavior (AmericasCardroom.exe then PokerClientBrowser.exe followed by pop-up) is how things work on the PC that is working correctly, but the PokerClientBrowser.exe followed by pop-up no longer happens on the PC where things are not working.

Haven't been playing on ACR the past few weeks and logged in, updated, and can't open my cashier. Is anyone else having issues with getting their cashier to appear?

Hey I wasn’t able to respond on the other wpn thread...

I myself have cashed out multiple times so it’s not me questioning whether cashouts do in fact occur... it’s more to do w the lack of “winning players” who cashout regularly defending wpn. It seems like everyone is slowly admitting that they lose on this site. This is just anecdotal evidence. It’s a gut feel that if wpn was so innocent and it was just me playing bad then more people would be coming out as wpn winning apologists. I just don’t see anyone besides people w ties to the company defending them.

At very least if you’ve played a single hand on wpn you would want the losing hands to be recorded and shown to create an environment of transparency. But apparently you and others are ok w the lack of transparency?

You know the type of transparency that could actually turn all of our anecdotes into hardcore facts and proof of a super user, collider, bot or whatever other way of cheating that has been done.

You realize that after all that and no concrete proof of xxxx happening, a total of zero opinions will change. Doubters will doubt and supporters will support, no matter the proof or lack of it. That argument will never ever go away.

ummm, you first offered that with no proof zero opinions would change.
then you offered that with proof that zero opinions would change

IMO if access to the data was given and mathematical proof was able to be calculated logical people may actually change their opinion

while I do tend to give humans a low value of actually being able to be logical I can't agree that zero people could be logical cuz that is not logical

I agree. My doubt is the conclusive proof. I think it would be stronger circumstantial proof and that would leave everyone in the same place.

It would be nice to find a solution to clean the entire industry up, although that is wishful thinking on my part.

yes the word conclusive proof is needed.

that leads me to another thought I had in a "super user thread"

how many hands would be needed to determine super user play?
idk myself

what would be a large enough sample and how far outside mathematical expectations would it need to be, heck where is that math being derived from to begin with as I doubt a sample size large enough could be gained and everything could always be related to variance

I understand to some extent the realities and perceptions of networks not wanting entire population statistics and rng logistics to be fully published publicly, but what if the entire population worth of data was able to be analyzed would that change an opinion or would the same debate occur because people would say that information is not fully there.

I guess is this a fallacy of online gaming that x portion of the population will always think they are "cheated" and maybe sites already have derived at a statistic quantifying that portion and furthermore quantifying how many would still wager regardless and this current issue is "no sweat" to them as this is already accounted for and falls w/i that percentage and the network knows nothing they do would help change that percentage?

ramblings of a mad man

You would need $500,000 worth of losses in hand history to determine SU. Probably $1,000,000 in losses if they don't show muck cards. lol

Since the WPN forum is now closed...

Any chance we can get the minimum entrants for Saturday's 200K GTD 8 max lowered? It is currently at 100. Last week the tourney didn't start even after they lowered it to 50 with an hour and a half left in the reg period.

Would love to play this one.