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Old 10-04-2013, 04:49 PM   #12601
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Re: ***OFFICIAL PartyPoker Thread***

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Hi Party_rep,

Any chance "Fixed Limit Holdem" become the 1st choice of game like before on previous software ?
It is bad news for Limit game because many recreationnal just play the 1st choice game availaible and don"t care if it is Limit or No Limit and now they go more to NL with new software

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Obv it's a long shot for him to ask but no need to be sarcastic. When ipoker and ongame moved nl to the first tab, limit instantly died.
Probably too many complaints about a missing all-in button "bug"

I know from playing limit SNGs in the past that about 1/2 the players had registered by accident when it started...

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Old 10-04-2013, 05:05 PM   #12602
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Why exactly is anybody who isn't a huge fish still playing on Party? I am genuinely interested.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #12603
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Why exactly is anybody who isn't a huge fish still playing on Party? I am genuinely interested.
Like you say: there is no reason (except for fish) to play there. I like to play against fish. That's why I play there.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:23 PM   #12604
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Obv it's a long shot for him to ask but no need to be sarcastic. When ipoker and ongame moved nl to the first tab, limit instantly died.
Exactly was march-april 2008 for Ongame i still remenber and 2009 for ipoker.
For rooms i think it is win win situation ; the recreational players go broke less quickly and pay more rake.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:34 PM   #12605
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Exactly was march-april 2008 for Ongame i still remenber and 2009 for ipoker.
For rooms i think it is win win situation ; the recreational players go broke less quickly and pay more rake.
The recs go broke anyway and winning players barely win at limit. The sites rake more though. Site wins.
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:36 PM   #12606
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For rooms i think it is win win situation ; the recreational players go broke less quickly and pay more rake.
Yeah, that's the sad thing about NL's dominance - I've tried to explain about LHE a few times to friends with no success... I guess nearly all TV poker being NL and the rounders "the Cadillac of poker" quote haven't helped much either though.

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Old 10-04-2013, 06:54 PM   #12607
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Please leave your feedback on the new design here, any feedback will be taken on board before adding this new design (or a subsequent iteration) into the client.
Buttons are awesome, background is awesome.

Everything else sucks, especially the cards and table cloth.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:42 AM   #12608
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I don't klnow what your deal is with all the talk about rake? Rake is 5% everywhere. If you are a winning poker player, rake should not be of your concern. You can win much more by playing good poker. IMO rakeback is for losers who can just break even!
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:43 AM   #12609
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stars has 4.5% rake and smaller caps
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:52 AM   #12610
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Winning poker players do not have to be concerned with 0,5%. You will make enough by being better than other players. No need for rakeback.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:56 AM   #12611
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ok, sorry
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:06 AM   #12612
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Hi all,

Here is an update on some of the points raised recently…

Inter Account Transfer (IAT):

The IAT function has now been fixed. Please let our Customer Service teams know if you are still having any difficulties with this feature.

Software Lag:

Players who are experiencing software lag are kindly asked to email our Customer Service team including account name, details of the issue(s) experienced and any third party tools in use at the time.
We are currently gathering information on the lag issues and have our technical teams working towards a solution.

Screen Name Change:

We are still working towards a solution on the screen name change issues.

New Table Design:

After listening to feedback on the new table design from 2+2, our creative department have designed a new table which we are testing – and which we invite you to try.

We have made changes to the table background, felt, cards and action buttons. All assets can be downloaded here.

To use this table: Close the client; download the zip file; extract it; and then place the extracted image files in the partypoker graphics folder
C:\Programs\PartyGaming\PartyPoker\Images\NewGameT able

Please leave your feedback on the new design here, any feedback will be taken on board before adding this new design (or a subsequent iteration) into the client.



Thanks
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Oh please change this layout. It looks good, more easy on the eyes!
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:26 AM   #12613
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please make a 4 color deck for that new layout. also it would be awesome if you could take all that white out and replace it with dark grey (chat box etc) ty
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:43 AM   #12614
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I don't klnow what your deal is with all the talk about rake? (1) Rake is 5% everywhere. If you are a winning poker player, rake should not be of your concern. (2) You can win much more by playing good poker. (3) IMO rakeback is for losers who can just break even!
Rake is for winners. Practically, losers don't pay rake. If I win a pot, I get the dollars minus the %rake. The loser wasn't getting anything anyways..

With all respect: your story isn't too accurate imo.

1) Rake is not 5% everywhere. Rake is like 2% at higher limits. There is rakeback at iPoker. Pokerstars (and others) have VIP systems that provides rb. So the actual percentages differ per client and stake.

2) You can win more by playing good poker... more than what..? More than playing bad poker? More than paying rake? You CAN win more by paying less rake. Just saying..

3) Rakeback is for everybody. And a break even player could be a winning player when paying less rake.

But I do get your point sort of.. Don't focus on side things, just focus on quality which I agree with.
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:48 AM   #12615
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The cards are no good imo. Can't you keep the cards like they are..? BTW I can't agree with some people here: I think the table lay-out is actually fine and clear.. But this one in the picture is nice as well. Please keep the option to keep the cards like they are plz
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:24 AM   #12616
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The cards are no good imo. Can't you keep the cards like they are..? BTW I can't agree with some people here: I think the table lay-out is actually fine and clear.. But this one in the picture is nice as well. Please keep the option to keep the cards like they are plz
Wel,l you can use only some of the files in the zip he sent.

I'm not using all of them, just tested then use some of the images I liked.

Personally I don't like those card images, but the buttons are nice!
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:58 AM   #12617
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LOL, what? Do you just make up whatever information fits your theory?

TwoPlusTwo is, and always has been, based in Nevada, and its servers have always been in the US AFAIK.


It does? Even if you were right that 2+2's servers were in the UK, how would that affect what poker site 2+2 posters support?
Thats the thing, AFAIK, quite clearly you do not know very Far..

Am just telling that they have some patronised in house posters who come in support and influence the forum opinion more often than not.
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:15 PM   #12618
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Re: ***OFFICIAL PartyPoker Thread***

It's so easy technically to give us a choice of table, card and background colours - I cannot for the life of me understand why this wasn't in the first release of the new software.

I suspect that Party's marketers are in control and the Poker managers come a long way down the decision making tree. The conversation is easy to imagine:

"This year, darling, it has to be orange! Large fonts are just outré ... so 1990s. What we have to do is guard our brand image - create brand value - become the poker brand, we can't let players change our brand colour scheme to suit themselves! They will then forget the energy and rebirth associations that orange signifies. Worse, they might choose colors that work badly - yellow ochre and nightshade pearlescent green just won't do!"

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Rake is for winners. Practically, losers don't pay rake. If I win a pot, I get the dollars minus the %rake. The loser wasn't getting anything anyways..

With all respect: your story isn't too accurate imo.

1) Rake is not 5% everywhere. Rake is like 2% at higher limits. There is rakeback at iPoker. Pokerstars (and others) have VIP systems that provides rb. So the actual percentages differ per client and stake.

2) You can win more by playing good poker... more than what..? More than playing bad poker? More than paying rake? You CAN win more by paying less rake. Just saying..

3) Rakeback is for everybody. And a break even player could be a winning player when paying less rake.

But I do get your point sort of.. Don't focus on side things, just focus on quality which I agree with.
doh - after everything we've written on these forums people still don't get rake. Start here and read the article series and you'll start to understand it.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:40 PM   #12619
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Re: ***OFFICIAL PartyPoker Thread***

btw do all partypoker network sites have the same payment service provider pay-pro?

bwin.com
DanskeSpil.dk
EmpirePoker.com
GamebookersPoker.com
PartyPoker.com
WPTPoker.com
ZyngaPlusPoker.co.uk

any more?
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:09 AM   #12620
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After full reinstallation I see dots instead of my balance numbers but when I click those dots I see the drop down table with the balance. Do anyone have the same bug?
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Old 10-06-2013, 08:30 AM   #12621
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Hi All,

Several of my managers and I are reading this thread every day. There are clearly a lot of topics for us to look at closely, and we will do that.

I recognize there's a lot of negative sentiment. That isn't being ignored. All the major points will be addressed in time. As I wrote in my last post: you might not like some of what we say, but we will be participating in the discussion.

Now that everyone should be able to log-in, I hope you enjoy playing the new software over the weekend, and that the cards are good to you.

Kind regards,

Jeffrey Haas
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So many lols after reading last Jeffrey posts that he wrote exactly a month ago

Especially the part of not ignoring the discusion and actively particpating in the discussion are just awesome. LOL what a bull****.

At least Jeffrey is a man of his words
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:49 AM   #12622
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Something strange is going on.

This is my results between 01 JAN 2013 - 11 SEP 2013
Winnings: 1713.92 $EV 1822.21 5.96 bb/100





This is results after 10 SEP 2013 when downswing started
Winnings: - 35.50 $EV 83.09 - 0.17bb/100





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LOL, kid! Normal variance......
80K hands, 6bb/100 winer, with min. 2 fishes on table, maybe it is i just never had this kind of downswing before.

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100k hands breakevens are completely standard for 6bb/100 winrate
even on micros?

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If you look at just the range 115k to 195k in the top graph then it's not too dissimilar.

Juk
Good point, no reason to worry than.

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Old 10-06-2013, 10:50 AM   #12623
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100k hands breakevens are completely standard for 6bb/100 winrate
Anyways we cannot do anything but trust Party or any other room
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:47 AM   #12624
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Hah those rigged theorist showing one month sample size.

Go find shipit2kg graphs and you'll see what variance is capable of.
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Old 10-06-2013, 05:39 PM   #12625
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Thats the thing, AFAIK, quite clearly you do not know very Far..
Wait, what? I point out that you're completely wrong about where 2+2 servers are located, and your response is that I "do not know very Far". What is that supposed to mean?

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Am just telling that they have some patronised in house posters who come in support and influence the forum opinion more often than not.
No, that's not all you were "just telling"; you claimed that 2+2 servers were based in the UK, which is completely incorrect.

So what is this last sentence supposed to mean? Are you now claiming that 2+2 is paying posters to post positive things about sites? That poker sites are? If you're claiming either (or both) of those things, do you have some evidence of this?
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