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08-18-2013 , 05:11 AM
can someone please quote the part in the terms and conditions where we accepted the change of cashout-conditions? or did party just change them without anybody knowing? isnt that illegal?
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08-18-2013 , 05:41 AM
read 15 posts up
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08-18-2013 , 09:04 AM
Let them suck. Complete ****. I am very happy **** poker room traffic falls. Hopefully room with this approach will soon be ruined.
How can so relate to its players?
P.S. Sorry for bad English.
N.B. Management PartyPoker burn in hell!
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08-18-2013 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Andyfothershops
Does anyone know what the average % return on Party Bingo is? I have an offer of 75% bonus to max $75 with a 3 x play through requirement. Id like to know if it is +EV. Their return would have to be 83% for it to be break even.
Anyone? I seem to remember discussion about converting points to cash using bingo, but can't find the post where values were discussed.

Pro bingo player, now that's the life
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08-18-2013 , 09:29 AM
Just to play devil's advocate:

For your last year's play, work out: rake/(rake+winnings)

If the value is more than 0.03, scale anger appropriately...

Juk
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08-18-2013 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Andyfothershops
Anyone? I seem to remember discussion about converting points to cash using bingo, but can't find the post where values were discussed.

Pro bingo player, now that's the life
The points for free bingo tickets option is not available anymore.
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08-18-2013 , 10:25 AM
Party giving out reload bonuses for a few weeks then slapping everyone with deposit fees without warning. So rich.

How many bad things does this site need to do in one year?
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08-18-2013 , 11:48 AM
Why is there now to play? Managers Rum write directly (for fish) ... we will not let you withdraw profit! Let us take by rail, even the Commission for the withdrawal. Cancel all bonuses! Making the fray deposits with equal players in the rake (the profits of Rum). I wish you to bankruptcy!
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08-18-2013 , 12:49 PM
so glad I took my Broll out, just get out of there guys, imagine what is to come
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08-18-2013 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by centebakkie
The points for free bingo tickets option is not available anymore.
You misunderstand

I have a bonus offer that specifically relates to bingo.
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08-18-2013 , 12:59 PM
^ casino games rtp % audits, doesn't seem to have bingo but i'd guess its over 83% http://www.itechlabs.com.au/certific...t_Apr_2013.pdf
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08-18-2013 , 01:00 PM
Ah ok something like this :

I never used it so i wouldn't know sorry.

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08-18-2013 , 03:52 PM
I think its plus ev to take it, and just let it run in the background. I'm no bingo strategist though
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08-18-2013 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jspill
^ casino games rtp % audits, doesn't seem to have bingo but i'd guess its over 83% http://www.itechlabs.com.au/certific...t_Apr_2013.pdf
Other games combined 107% which one is doing the paying out?
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08-18-2013 , 04:12 PM
cashout fees and options depend on country,some countries still have free withdraw options none to netteller or skrill.

what a horrible way to scare casual players party poker bad IMO

https://cashier.partyaccount.com/faq..._ID=en_US&ctg=
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08-18-2013 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Andyfothershops
Does anyone know what the average % return on Party Bingo is? I have an offer of 75% bonus to max $75 with a 3 x play through requirement. Id like to know if it is +EV. Their return would have to be 83% for it to be break even.
From http://www.partybingo.org.uk/party-bingo-odds :

"The percentage difference between the gross house take and the return is the house edge. Typically, the Party Bingo parlor will hold 40-60% of all money wagered as profits."
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08-18-2013 , 06:08 PM
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Other games combined 107% which one is doing the paying out?
yeah, does anyone know how to explain the 107% figure? Are these some kind of promotional jackpots or sth similar?
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08-18-2013 , 06:55 PM
party really vigging the withdraws? cheap ****s
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08-18-2013 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
From http://www.partybingo.org.uk/party-bingo-odds :

"The percentage difference between the gross house take and the return is the house edge. Typically, the Party Bingo parlor will hold 40-60% of all money wagered as profits."
Just wow. That's some house edge if it's correct.
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08-18-2013 , 11:36 PM
Just withdrew all the money I had on the site.

Well done Party, you managed to get me off the site AND steal 3% of what I had there.

By the way, I used to bet on party bets quite often too.

Good luck with your fkn ecology.
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08-19-2013 , 01:59 AM
Can someone explain to me why Party is doing this to the regs?

I don't get it... it's very scary...
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08-19-2013 , 02:55 AM
I just checked wd options. £2.50 + 3% for me. I just don't get the business plan. It doesn't seem to make any sense. Can they really be saving that much on marketing to make this worthwhile?
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08-19-2013 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MAsSIV
yeah, does anyone know how to explain the 107% figure? Are these some kind of promotional jackpots or sth similar?
sample size was 1 month. not that surprising that there is a game that pays over 100%? big jackpot hitting would make sense
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08-19-2013 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Andyfothershops
I just checked wd options. £2.50 + 3% for me. I just don't get the business plan. It doesn't seem to make any sense. Can they really be saving that much on marketing to make this worthwhile?
The reality is that neteller/skrill are popular mostly among regs and we know what Party thinks about us, regs. Majority of fish use the credit card option.
They see it as an opportunity to discourage the players they don't want on their site (regs) from playing and they will make additional money from us leaving the site completely.

They don't care that they lost 50% of their traffic and that are losing even more they are commited to their strategy turning poker into another casino game.

Honestly they have been succesfull with their strategy. Party went from my main site to like 4th and if not that I need like last 500$ rake to clear last points I would be gone too. there are probably hundreds players like me and people that still play there just clear the bonuses and will be probably gone to.

They
-get rid of high stakes,then
-get rid of Palladium Elite, then
-introduced the segregation,then
-get rid of most of the bonuses without any notification and now
-they introduced withdraw fee

The tendency is balantly clear and you are delusional if you think it is the end of it. Things will only get worse at Party and probably none of us want to wait to see how badly they can get.

Honestly I do't want to wait what will be next. Increase in rake ?, no waiting lists ? , even worse bonuses and higher withdraw fee ??
The tendecy is clear and they won't stop. They haven't stopped this madness for like last 9-10 months.
As long as Teufelberger and bwin team is in charge things will only get worse and I won't risk my money waiting what they will introduce next.
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08-19-2013 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by gargamel_fk
The reality is that neteller/skrill are popular mostly among regs and we know what Party thinks about us, regs. Majority of fish use the credit card option.
They see it as an opportunity to discourage the players they don't want on their site (regs) from playing and they will make additional money from us leaving the site completely.

They don't care that they lost 50% of their traffic and that are losing even more they are commited to their strategy turning poker into another casino game.

Honestly they have been succesfull with their strategy. Party went from my main site to like 4th and if not that I need like last 500$ rake to clear last points I would be gone too. there are probably hundreds players like me and people that still play there just clear the bonuses and will be probably gone to.

They
-get rid of high stakes,then
-get rid of Palladium Elite, then
-introduced the segregation,then
-get rid of most of the bonuses without any notification and now
-they introduced withdraw fee

The tendency is balantly clear and you are delusional if you think it is the end of it. Things will only get worse at Party and probably none of us want to wait to see how badly they can get.

Honestly I do't want to wait what will be next. Increase in rake ?, no waiting lists ? , even worse bonuses and higher withdraw fee ??
The tendecy is clear and they won't stop. They haven't stopped this madness for like last 9-10 months.
As long as Teufelberger and bwin team is in charge things will only get worse and I won't risk my money waiting what they will introduce next.
+1
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