like 1/4 of players at nl25 missing at party compared to bwin logged in

just three quick examples of the hidden tables

The bolded statment pretty much says it all really

i got response from WPT:

guys, if you start a party client but dont log in to it, does the number of tables differ compared to being logged in? I see a massive difference myself (comparing 100nl 6max tables i see 9 full tables when logged in but 42 full tables when logged out)

The waiting lists are kinda ridic anyway lol. Strange **** going on anyway. I'm leaving soon.

cheers Party

Party_Rep, does Party (or some other skin on the same network) somehow restrict the player pool visibility to some players, either based on the skin they play at, their play amount, their observed winrate or some other factor? Do you rank (as implied by the UAP) the players based on those or other factors?

Also, did you get an answer to the other question from 2 weeks back, i.e. what happens to monies that are lost to a rogue account?

Before the update there was 600-850 players on NL10 from 6pm to 12pm now i dont remember that i seen more than 380 in the highest peak on weekend.
Right now according to my TST there are 320 players and only 4 players (fishes) with 40+VPIP, before the update there was about 20+ players vith 40+.
For me the situation is clear this is a fraud, in this way they have all the fishes for themselves and they can hire some players to play (work) for them. so they can let them play with fishes whole day and than split the profit.
These stuff should be forbiden by law if they didnt.

ok guys,

I was playing on a table awhile ago that I could not find in the lobby. I think this is a BUG more than a planned strategy, party poker does not have the traffic to attempt a pool segregation, and if they did attempt it, it was be the worst possible thing for their business.

You protect recreational players from being targeted by sitout scum and that, but in essence, the reason for protecting them is not so they can all be lumped together and play like 1 table against each other, but so they will feel comfortable at the tables and continue playing and if they just enjoy it for fun and don't mind losing then they are happy cause they are also not being hunted, and if they don't enjoy that and are learning, then it gives them the time to learn and get better like we all had to do.

Protecting them would be the instant downfall of party poker, so don't stress. All the regs would be stuck with each other and would just go elsewhere and all the fish would cut traffic by 6 times, as right now 1 fish drives 5 other players at a table whereas 6 fish on a table will cut there traffic 6 fold.

If we want to find out the degree of this bug then we need to all set a time, and all take screen shots of our lobbies at that same time and compare. Get like 20 people to do it. But I'm pretty sure the discrepancy is going to be a few tables caused by some glitch.

Also, comparing #tables won't help, you need screen shots to ensure that they are the same tables. Saying one player sees 12 tables and one player see's 13 could mean they are off by 1 table, or it could mean the player pool had 25 tables and was divided in half

checked 2 accounts, have the same number whether I am logged or not

I have the proof guys, one image is from my acc second from my friend acc i use my db i'm the wining player he is the huge fish. It's NL10

I also logged into my older party account, where I didn't play for a long long time. I found about 13-15 new tables, that i do not see on the wpt account, where i am currently playing, and most of them were filled with fishes

wow is this real ?

i snap quit party in a heartbeat if its true

Is this legal, i mean they are the owners of casino they not supose to go from player to player and check who is good and who is bad, they only need to secure that players dont cheat and thats all, who are they to judge who is good and who is bad, maybe some fishes love to play vs good players that is totaly up to them to decide.

Regs vs regs fishes vs fishes and money all over the place for party good job morons.

is the real imo!
GFY party!

Grunching a bit here, but is it possible that, say, WPT has segregated a part of the player pool? And if you view partypoker prior ot logging in, you see the "full" network. When you log in, the WPT-specific tables disappear.

Just brainstorming some other ideas beyond "pwin individually rating players by winrate" that may explain what users are seeing.

Im so glad I switched to tourneys and have never looked back... still scary to see, going to go see if im in the fish pool.

I was CS a few years ago on BWIN. Just look at this

WPT - profitable TAG



PP weak TAG BE



BWIN Calling Station, sports betting gambler

1st EVIDENCE: Lots of players have the feeling that the number of players/fishes/tables had changed after last software update.

2nd EVIDENCE: We are not sure why this is appening.

3rd EVIDENCE: There isn't an official answer from Party poker.

So this is what we want to know:

I suggest everyone Quote the parasita post, maybe Party Rep will see it (I think Party rep only works one day for month) and give us a aswer.

That would be easy to verify: I just logged into the party account and these tables have only fishes: Gislaved, Ulianovka, Charlestown, Izmir, Norwich, Bremerhaven and many others.
Someone who's currently playing on party and also winning should check if he sees those tables. I bet not!

I was wondering why the number of tables dropped SIGNIFICANTLY at bwin.

I mean, there is just a huuuuge different between tables in January and tables now, esp. late at night. You're lucky if there are 4 tables running, then you just gotta start your own all the time.

****'s annoying. But bwin always didn't give two ****s about regs, had seperate player pool on ongame so could see this coming. First, increasing bonus prizes, then this. WHAT ELSE TO COME!

I remember when I signed up at WPT the support people told me that the player pool was segregated. Then I asked party and they told me it wasn't segregated.

i dont see those tables and i've checked all stakes at 6max

Sorry, forgot to mention: 6max, 50nl

Just did a check with a friend of mine who is also a winner against a table scan on an empty account that hasn't seen play in years.

dat?a
donnacona
dubrowna
gavrilove pasna
hincinti
isfahan
montevideo
orlando
santa rosa
sukumi
tokyo

This is a list of tables not currently showing up in .5/1 and 1/2 lobbies 6 max. From what I can tell each table has atleast 2 players playing shortish/fishy and is missing pretty much every multitabling reg. The only regs that seem to be playing on them is GoDancerGoGo who from PTR seems to be a slight loser over 90k hands and MisterBing who appears to be a recent name change. I thought this had to be wrong but its looking pretty horrible right now. I can do screenshots of both lobbies if you guys need. Also all accounts are on the main party skin.

People please everyone that have the "feeling" that the number of players/fishes/tables changed aflter the last update, please quote the parasita post.

We all are regs, we play almost every days at Party network, we are no stupid so we notice that something is appening (end of Palladium Elite, end of Strategy affiliate, VIP treatment like they didn't care about us.... and now this).

We only need an official Party answer about this. Then we can happy leave.