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Old 04-29-2011, 07:11 PM   #1
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ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

The lack of update's from them has me concerned and now when u go to the website the online chat has been closed. What are the chances of those with money getting paid? 20% 50% ALL GUESSES WELCOME. If i remember correctly neteller was 7-8 month's?
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:14 PM   #2
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

I sure hope not...got my neteller$$.. Got my Stars $$. Just waiting on Ewallet and tilt now!
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:52 PM   #3
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

someone try to contact the doj about it. as far as we know ewalletxpress might claim all the money seized were their profits and try to get away with stealing it.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:15 PM   #4
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

my ewallet express money is still stuck as far as i know.....i requested a cashout months ago
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:19 PM   #5
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

EWALLET EXPRESS, INC was operated in violation of an injunction since 2006. It was one of many corporate identities indicted for telemarketing fraud. Of the two principals involved, one Ira N. Rubin fled justice and has been apparently operating since then off-shore. It's very likely this is the same Ira Rubin who was arrested in Guatemala five days ago in connection with the DoJ indictments of 4/15. The assets of EWALLET EXPRESS, INC as a corporate entity of Global Marketing Group, Inc. have been in receivership for several years. The money being used to pay bankers and lawyers.

Related 2P2 threads:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rubin-1028916/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...s-now-1011278/

Related to the lawsuit:

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/06231...contemptmo.pdf

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/06231...ljdgmtastl.pdf

Where's the money:

http://www.robbevans.com/pdf/globalmktgreport05.pdf

Source:

http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/0623186/index.shtm

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Old 04-30-2011, 02:37 AM   #6
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

thank you for taking the time to post that info, without reading all of it would u say we are ****ed?

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Old 04-30-2011, 02:44 AM   #7
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

It depends on how much money is left after churning through the system. It's sort of like what people are accustomed to recovering from class action lawsuits (after the vultures take their cut).
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:50 AM   #8
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

awesome, what is $7240 worth? $ 500??? ARGH!!
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Old 04-30-2011, 02:57 AM   #9
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awesome, what is $7240 worth? $ 500??? ARGH!!
I think you'd have to identify yourself as a victim to the Federal Trade Commission who brought suit, in order to have any possibility of a claim. I don't know this as fact though. However, there's a long list of people who have been screwed, probably going back further than 2005. If you think you should get on such a list, it's up to you.
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:45 AM   #10
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

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It depends on how much money is left after churning through the system. It's sort of like what people are accustomed to recovering from class action lawsuits (after the vultures take their cut).
I doubt anyone is going to see anything from Ewallettexpress. The owner is sitting in jail right now and before he fled the country in 06 he managed to get his hands on about a mill. in funds that he wasnt supposed to.

tbh, no idea how ewalletexpress has even been opertating up until now.
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Old 04-30-2011, 01:22 PM   #11
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How do we know "Ewallet Express Inc" is the same as ewalletXpress?

EwalletXpress was operated by something called Navajo Networks Inc.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:48 AM   #12
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YEAH I HOPE IT IS 2 DIFFERENT COMPANIES!!! Got email from them saying the same as 3 months ago, money seized, case pending, nothing we can do, yada yada yada. SHADY ****S!
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:29 AM   #13
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EWallet funds seized. SOURCE: http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/u-s-go...s-funds-17017/
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Old 05-04-2011, 08:24 AM   #14
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:29 PM   #15
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

I just randomly got this email today...perhaps Black Friday might actually help Ewallet Express get money back to customers?:


Dear Valued Customer,

This message is in response to a withdrawal request you issued to our company
via LiveChat, phone, or email some time ago. As you may already be aware, our
service has been suspended since November 12th by the United States Government
as part of an ongoing investigation. Effective that date, our funds were seized
and we have been unable to process withdrawals to customers as the money is no
longer in our custody or control. We are currently in negotations with the
United States Government regarding the return of these funds, and are making
every effort to have this matter resolved as quickly as possible.

At this time we would like to apologize for any inconvenience suffered -- we
appreciate both your patience and understanding while we work towards a
resolution. Your request is still in queue and as further details regarding
your account and withdrawal become available, you will be notified via email.
If you have received duplicate copies of this message, please note that we
currently have more than one withdrawal request on file for you. These requests
will be merged, and you may disregard any duplicate correspondence.

Thank you
Customer Support Team
eWalletXpress
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:07 PM   #16
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

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I just randomly got this email today...perhaps Black Friday might actually help Ewallet Express get money back to customers?:


Dear Valued Customer,

This message is in response to a withdrawal request you issued to our company
via LiveChat, phone, or email some time ago. As you may already be aware, our
service has been suspended since November 12th by the United States Government
as part of an ongoing investigation. Effective that date, our funds were seized
and we have been unable to process withdrawals to customers as the money is no
longer in our custody or control. We are currently in negotations with the
United States Government regarding the return of these funds, and are making
every effort to have this matter resolved as quickly as possible.

At this time we would like to apologize for any inconvenience suffered -- we
appreciate both your patience and understanding while we work towards a
resolution. Your request is still in queue and as further details regarding
your account and withdrawal become available, you will be notified via email.
If you have received duplicate copies of this message, please note that we
currently have more than one withdrawal request on file for you. These requests
will be merged, and you may disregard any duplicate correspondence.

Thank you
Customer Support Team
eWalletXpress
Today, you say huh? Thanks for posting this. I also have money stuck there, but I got almost the same email in December, but not a thing since. Including zero responses to any of my emails sent since to either email of theirs.
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:49 PM   #17
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

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Today, you say huh? Thanks for posting this. I also have money stuck there, but I got almost the same email in December, but not a thing since. Including zero responses to any of my emails sent since to either email of theirs.
got the same email yesterday
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:21 AM   #18
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

Got same email. I feel our money is worth about 10 cents on the dollar now, although i hope i am waaaay off, UGH! Hoping for Neteller result here.
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Old 05-05-2011, 05:06 AM   #19
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

better chance here than cereus money lol
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:51 AM   #20
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better chance here than cereus money lol
$7240 on ewalletxpress and $1160 plus tickets and points on cereus, ARGH!!! At least Stars came through with my $8100. A friend offered me $600 for the cereus balance on 4/17 and i said, nah ill pass. I feel dumb for declining....
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:05 AM   #21
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

Got this mail also!
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:00 PM   #22
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I got this e-mail as well...my initial reaction to it was that their lawyers think they may be close to a settlement with the DOJ. JMO.
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:56 PM   #23
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

that really sucks, hope u guys get paid. This was the first I heard of it. Hope UMW doesn't get hit next...
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:45 PM   #24
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Re: ewalletxpress money a lost cause?

Any update? Who can we contact about this?
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:42 PM   #25
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Any update? Who can we contact about this?
They seem to claim the feds shut them down. There is evidence they ran off with the money though. I would say there is virtually zero chance of recovering your money from them. They are in the same odds group as AP/UB IMO.
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