Read that last sentence of yours a couple times and see if it makes sense to you. If it does then you need some help with your writing. How can you say that the number of people affected isn't a concern? I think I get where this came from, though: just pointing out what you thought was a stupid part of the rep's post. But... fail.

BTW, I didn't need your explanation of what the rep was doing. I do understand what his job is. Thanks anyway.

Arguing with kingfish has the potential to derail this thread for many pages to come.

There is no way you hontly believe this. Do you really think cash players are going to have 52 +750 weeks in a row with no downswings? That's nearly impossible.

Are you trolling for fun or are you getting paid for this?

Have they fixed the glitches that prevent people from sitting for no reason?

Im a winning reg but dont put in enough volume to make $750 in a week often so it wouldnt effect me much.

Also does this prevent me from starting a euro table and have the italians sit with me?

if we ignore him he'll prob get bored and go back to trolling in the 'US grinders: where are they now' thread, telling players that had their lifes ruined by big friday that they should've seen it coming

Ha, it would be nice if poker worked that way, unfortunately there is variance. It's pretty common to have 5-10 buy in swings in a few hours(for me at least).

Say I'm playing someone hu and they win more than 750euros, do I get a chance to win my money back from this guy? If not, that would be a little absurd.

I thought i remembered that bigfish guy from somewhere.
He goes about posting nonsense in threads like these for fun, its not the first time.

I don't think he is a stupid fellow though, he made a long post about the future of the grinder and he makes some really valid points in there, he just has an agenda against mass grinders and thus will blindly support anything that seemingly affects them negatively and lets that cloud his judgement.

Someone mentioned it warns them that they are about to sit with someone who is a good player. (not seen this myself though)

Well the best way to send a message to these sites is to not play on them...

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LOL, just leveling, I mean look at that ^. It's almost like they want to lose!

the problem with Everleaf system is that there is a week time frame. So basically it won't be ever 3k €.
there are always long time stretches where you won't be winning and upswing time when you could make a lot. Now your winnings are limited but not your looses.
For example let's say that you had 2 winning weeks and your winning are limited to 1.5 k€ (while in reality while having upswing you could make like 3-5k€)
Every reg has week+ break-even/lossing stretches.
So it will be more like a 2.5k€ cap rather than 3k€.
I could live with the 3k€/month winnings cap but if it was based on monthly/quarterly sytem or some sort of average winnings system.

Confirmed, sat down at the table thunderdome tripled up and left.

How is that my or the poker rooms problem, you need to understand that the poker rooms don't conduct their business for you to make money but for them to make money. If they allow players to fish out the waters they get less rake and go bust. This protect them from going bust and they keep a healthy player base. This should be in your interest as a player but you are greedy and want more and more without ever giving something back. If you are given free reign of how you conduct your game you will soon destroy your own fish pond.

Yeah, i'm sure the owner of pokerstars is crying himself to sleep every night because all the grinders made his site go bust.

No, it wouldn't.

Someone gets it right.

It's not like that I think the cap winnings are a good thing, but you cant compare ELG with Stars.
PS is maybe a hundred times bigger and way more well known with a big marketing budget that always brings in new players and deposits.

The majority of the ELG Players are micro players which will not be effected by the changes.
It sucks for those guys who play NL 100 +, especial for the US and other players which have restrictions from their governments not to choose freely where to play; maybe those changes are the price we have to pay for a network which still is open for players from all over the world.

There have been written many posts because of the change, lets see what the future brings.

For people who absolutely can not arrange with the changes there is one form of ultimative protest; leave and take your business elsewhere.

When PS decide to get rid of the grinders they will simply remove the bonuses and we will have another cry baby thread. This day will come and I will be sure to post in that thread too...

cool story, what would be better is if you completely stopped posting until that day!

You come across as someone upset that the games haven gotten tougher and you are unable to beat them anymore...

PS and FTP were both smaller sites once upon a time.
They both became huge without introducing silly nonsense like capping players winnings. These sites welcomed grinders and were literally printing money.

Anyway i'm done with these ****ty smaller sites, and their shenanigans.
I wanted to support small sites trying new things like $1 rake cap but nonsense like this means its back to stars.

Hope Pokerstars crush them all into insignificance

This makes no sense. How about people playing mid-stakes? The client offers 5/10 NL. So I sit in a game and win one buyin. Then I am done playing poker for the week unless I sit against other players up over 750? How can they even spread those limits? The funny thing is that I can't even see the tables with recreation players in the lobby if my "player rating is too high." If I am not logged in then I can see the games but when I login and try to sit it won't allow. The software, however, has no memory of my recent 5k downer though so yes it appears you can go on nice downswings but no heaters.

This is sadly not becoming an option for US players. If you play 200 NL or bigger it is getting super tough since Merge is the only place to play and playing midstakes there is also nearly impossible with cashouts capped at 2500/6 weeks.

Both posts pretty much nailed it. I'm a midstakes player and I've been cut off from playing most of my tables since Tuesday night. Still the best option right now

BB/100 Everleaf fleeces from the fish in rake > good player winrate at most levels.

LOL @ Everleaf "protecting" these players!

If this honestly affects someone from the US every week, then why didn't you move out of the country months ago?

This should honestly only affect those who make a living off of poker.

Where did you pull this conclusion from?
This affects anyone who plays for more than cheese burger stakes...

you're wrong. this affects people who have lost more than 750 euro in one week because anything more cannot be won in the next week. if you lose 2k euro, it will take 3 weeks just to break even assuming after losing 2k you can actually win 3 weeks in a row. the problem is that you can lose a lot more than you can win at the euro tables. it also prevents good players from making a good run at the tables.

needs to be net average weekly if they are going to have this implemented at all. that way if you are big loser one week you can still be + huge the next week to claw your way back out of hole and not bust their stupid limit rule.