None of the Eurolin/ BetOnBet staff members were aware that the comany was close to bankrupcy.

Support and VIP staff were told that the problems are temporary, that their jobs are safe and that players would recieve their funds.

The only people who are responsable for this whole mess are the company directors.

Hey mee, some good information thanks for joining us. You may want to check up on this, as in a lot of places a payslip showing that your employer deducted tax is good enough for the tax office. I also second the going to the police idea above, if you can convince them that he's committed a crime they may stop him leaving the country.

It sounds strange because it isn't true. Curacao is not is the EU.

No, Jackie did not know about the it... noone did ... otherwise we would have started looking for new jobs before it happened

With regards to the license, it s probably registered under other name, this is why it needs further investigation

We know Jo Reme is still in Malta , i can not give you details on how do we know... re criminal procedure, i would not like to elaborate at this point.

MG has no responisibility in that case. Jo reme was the managing director of the company, operating a one man show, having all the money ''ropes'' in his hands. Jo Reme managed to hide from all of us the gravity of the problem, as soon as they step in our office and they realised what happened, they did what best could be done to protect everyone from further damages : shut down immediately. I am sure MG had no interest in covering such a situation since the image and reputation of their business has been damaged seriously.

Mee, thanks so much, you're going out of your way to help us, I can't thank you enough.

One thing though, here:
I would say that in that case maybe MG should actually have more responsibility than they otherwise would because they licensed their software to a guy that had already been implicated in other crooked money-stealing schemes, leading to a lot of stolen money and a very foreseeable result had they done just a little due diligence.

Sorry for the derail, I just wanted to throw that out there.

MG have made several huge mistakes here and now they need to pay for it.
If they cant make sure all EL/BoB players are paid every single $ they are owed, we need to make sure that they are put out of business.

This is the most important thing now. Even if we can be angry with MG I think there is no real chance that they will be obligated to pay us by any court under any jurisdiction.

If this is the case, then as I wrote, our only chance is if Remme gets caught with our money. (I know he will not have it in his pocket, but it is almost certain that he has it somewhere as the whole EL stuff now appears to be a planned pyramide fraud)

LouisCyphre do u live in Malta??? If yes, you could help us all if you would go to the police with that story immediately.

For the last few months there were some major payment delays, was there any system as to who got paid when -- how were priorities were made?
Do you know who decided which players to pay and when?

I find this an odd statement from an employee of Eurolinx. How do you know Microgaming has no responsibility, and why do you consider this opinion so highlight-worthy?

Since Microgaming apparently have everyone's best interests at heart - which is a rather odd position to take considering what we know about their recent history and "**** the player" attitude, but I'll let that pass - they will presumably be offering full cooperation in tracking down Jo Remme?

Battlefield poker and 26 other rooms go busto and MG walks away clean. Why would this case be any different?

Lydia Melton probably knew what was going on. The operations manager who just jumped ship to MG from eurolinx less then a month ago and is now rumored to be fired from MG.

If this is the level of your knowledge, please stop posting in this thread.

LGA or the Police should investigate her for sure.. She was Jo Remme's right hand.. All decsions went through her and for sure that she knew what was going on and probably she was/is deeply involved with this fraud.

Lydia Melton can't be so hard to bring in.. Trust me when I say that she knows all about it..

Forget about microgaming. Jo Remme is probably owing microgaming lots of money also. We have to make sure Jo Remme stays in Malta, so that the police can track down where he transferred all our money. The money is out there somewhere, hidden away by this guy.

The liquidators will not have the authority to do this I imagine. This is police work.

all Curacao citizens are EU-citzens, the island itself isn't an ordinary member but has special status.

anyway, i provided some background information with regards to the Malta gaming jurisdiction, which just isn't what it is cracked up to be on this forum. if you are not interested and really think BetonBet has all players funds stashed away somewhere in some ringfenced account, just because they formally had to, keep on hoping.

In the Goldvictory-case the LGA reported it to the police days after the website went bust, and the owner was picked up immediately. It's basically the LGA's call to report, they have the contacts to actually make something happen.

Lydia Melton left Eurolinx in late April. The withdrawal problems started later on.

I know for a fact that Lydia had been planning to leave Eurolinx in search of better opportunities some time before all this started; when Eurolinx still had a good reputation.
I do not think it's fair to involve ex -staff in this. Lydia might have smelt something fishy and decided to quit before the situation got out of control...I do not think it was in her power to stop or change any of this.

Please keep in mind that some peoples reputations are at stake here...

Eurolinx started not to pay taxes for their emploeeys in January.. just paid some bills that HAD to be paid..

In February they purchase BetOnBet.. where does this money comes from when they can't even pay their taxes or bills.. They come from the Players money for sure.. Lydia was the operation Manger.. She had full knowledge. I'm willing to bet a lot of money on that..

Meee,

You said u can't blame MG but why they acted so late. In May i did sent my first mail. In June my 2nd and in july my 3rd. I also called them twice but they didnt do anything with my complains. I see there are a few ex-employees here on this thread but i told them several times that this would end at the wrong way. If my boss would keep saying that the problem will be solved i wouldnt beleve him because the problems were getting worse every week. From June EL/BOB were without a chance to survive. Be honest, u really would have stayed if u got your money in august. Not me, i would hit and run...

I lost 140k$ which was almost my whole br. This Jo remme sounded nice trough telephone but he is absolutely not! He said that they have been trading with funds which went pretty bad. Why should he said that to me and nobody else..........???
So i cant imagine i am the only one he told this.

Well reading all of this i probably see 0-10% of my money back in the feature. Mostlikely it will take years and years.......

Please keep in mind that alot of peoples money is at stake here...

>> Did other people (i.e: Jackie Gatt) know about the sure and close bankruptcy?

> No, Jackie did not know about the it... noone did ... otherwise we would
have started looking for new jobs before it happened

Im not convinced. Even if she didnt know every little detail, it still seems to me that she has at least cooperated to hide the truth with deliberate lies.

An example is a email conversation I had with her regarding exchanging Gadget Points at BetOnBet into an amazon voucher. I requested the voucher on June 26th. Nothing happened and I emailed again.

Here are some answers:

[July 3rd]
I have placed an order for Amazon.com for $500 in exchange for 90,000 Gadget Points. The Gadget points will be deducted from your account once your order is processed. Amazon.com vouchers may take up to 7 days to be sent.

[July 9th]
As per your request, I have sent you an Amazon.com voucher in exchange for 90,000 gadget points. The points have now been deducted from your account and you should receive the voucher within 24 hours.

Then she stopped answering my next 5 emails until...

[August 10th]
I am very sorry to hear that you did not receive your Amazon.com voucher.
I have now credited the Gadget points back to your account and I will leave
them there until I receive an update from Amazon regarding your voucher.
It seems like I ordered around 20 gift certificates and some of them were not
delivered. Apologies for this...

Ok let's do some bussiness!!

We gonna take a lawyer. I want to know who will join. And please the guy who used to be a lawyer can u give me/us some advice what the best steps are to begin with.

Please let me know if u would join and which amount u have on EL/BOB

GL

The withdrawal problems are a sign of severe cash flow problems. For instance TUSK was not having any big problems paying players yet they had manage to run funds down to about 20-30% depending how you interpret their latest liquidator report.

It's likely that cash flow problems existed for much longer than just may/june. EL could have squandered 80% of players funds by April for all we know. The fact that lydia left right before the **** hit the fan does not bode well at all. It's almost guaranteed that EL was having cash flow problems well before april. It's hard to imagine someone in her position would not be aware (whether she was responsible or not).

Lost also around 1400$, but no problem at all compared with other guys here around.

Anyway is a question of principle, how can MG licence that Jo Remme who was involved in big criminal matters, with companies loosing millions of $?

I'm quiet sure they may haven been informed about that...

I really appreciate as all the guys here, if former staff can go ahead with presenting us all more details they can discover.

Thanks so far and good luck to us all!

Don't know if this has been posted before, but this is information from the Brønnøysund - registry about Eurolinx and Bet on Bet.



EUROLINX AS
Organizationnumber: 888 186 492

It says claims must be reported to Runar Eidem within 2 months.

Runar Eidem
Lemhaugen 18
6013 ÅLESUND
NORWAY

Phonenumber: +47 97774336

http://w2.brreg.no/enhet/sok/detalj.jsp?orgnr=888186492

BETONBET TECHNOLOGY AS
Organizationnumber: 983 559 336

Claims must me reported to Jo Arild Remme within 2 months.

Jo Arild Remme
Windsor Court 88 Flat 2
Sliema Malta
MALTA

http://w2.brreg.no/enhet/sok/detalj.jsp?orgnr=983559336

Other names can be found in this thread: http://www.donkr.com/forum/viewPost.asp?threadid=793616

What!!!?? ^^^

I'll get the pitchforks if someone else can get the torches.