This is the funniest post I've seen in a long time in one of these omfg my account got locked threads. wp

They took longer to do anything about the stud colluders/disconnect abusers. It's at least good to see they will do something though.

The whole thing is weird, as I just read a thread recently where PS has a school, or some kind of affiliate who runs a school where he enables multiple people to play in the same setting , kind of like a athletic club. Anyway there are obvious concerns of collusion, sharing hole cards, accounts, identities, etc etc.

I have no idea what kind or if they have the proper safe guards in place but w/e, I don't play there anyway. Like I said though, it's at least good to see they will go after collusion if they suspect it, even in their Chinese market witch they are obviously trying to expand.

well played stars

To be fair: I'm not entirely convinced that that is an example of conclusive cheating. But no biggie...if there's a pattern, etc etc then I'm guessing it probably was pretty noticeable that something was up.

Anyway, yes, since Jane does not have the HH's I'm sure she would appreciate your assistance in posting some of the hands that may have been the ones that looked the most like collusion or cheating. This way, Jane can counter-argue why the hand may have somehow been legit.

Jane, you're in favor of this, right? You would very much like for these hands to be posted so that you can provide a counter-argument, right? The hands that this poster has might not be as obvious as he thinks. This could be your big chance to prove your innocence!

My ROI in 100$ DN is about 5% from more than 9000 tours.

There is no being fair about it. They are scum bag cheaters and a few of the regs reported them including myself. They did an investigation..They were banned and many people were refunded.

Scum is scum and they are scum.

Jane save me the trouble of posting the HH and do it yourself. Seriously. Stop posting and just show everyone. Conversing will get you nowhere. No one is here to be conned.

I played 15 tables at the same times without using POP.

I'm not sure why this matters at all. You have referenced before that you are a winning player but it seems clear that Stars banned you for cheating, not for winning.

They frequently ban players that aren't even winning players even WITH their cheating ways. They are such bad cheats that they can't even turn a profit by breaking the rules.

Regardless, you should get off this kick and perhaps make an argument or claim as to why you are actually innocent of their accusations. To my observation, this is not something you have attempted to do yet.

Sure . All I am asking is very very simple:PS should show me some hands that
can prove something with their four months job.

Jane claims she doesn't have the hands. You should still have the e-mail history you sent to Stars, right? This should be pretty easy for you to locate I would think. No big deal. Just kind of curious.

The logic is lost on me here:

Pokerstars: cheater [banhammer]
Jane: but I win!
Pokerstars: still a cheater
Jane:

My winning is from my skill. I am pretty sure any good Double Nothing player can improve their ROI about 2% if they can learn form me even half hours.

Why post the hands that prove them cheating? Let them dig to find where they need to improve their cheating methods. Stars investigated almost 50 accounts for 4 months. I think there is no mistake.

Jane - I see you have ignored my advice and request to drop this aspect of your argument. Nobody cares to hear you brag about how good you think you are at DON's. Not only does it do nothing to help you case...it actually hurts you.

With every post you make in this thread you are convincing me more and more that Stars was correct to ban you. Please attempt to make a post that convinces me otherwise.

fyp

From $10 DON's to $100 DON's in 60 days

My damn browser crashed and I wasn't able to save the rest. Hopefully someone else will post the rest.

Meh...one or two hands wouldn't be the end of the world. They know what their own strategies were and they also know they got caught. If/when they try it again they would attempt to refine their strategies anyway to not be so apparently LOL-worthy. They would be analyzing their own hands as we speak to determine which ones were the most obvious.

There's a chance they won't take the risk again though. Because getting caught means losing your whole bankroll and they've already learned that kind of sucks.

I wouldn't be bothered if we never saw any of the hands though. Was just curious how stupid they were, that's all. And would be amused to see Jane's explanation of some of the LOL-worthy play.

This about seems to sum it up.

OP just be happy it was PS who caught you and not the Chinese police.

Oh, they'll do it again. No question. They'll just cash out frequently.

Hello ***********,

We appreciate your patience in this matter. After careful review we have concluded that certain players were taking advantage of the games offered here at pokerstars.

We can assure you that we take cheating allegations very seriously. After our investigations were concluded we found numerous players in breach of our site rules. In conclusion you will be refunded in the amount $343.81.


Regards,

Dan M.
Supervisor
PokerStars Game Security

Oh ya emails sent like 6 months ago are real easy to find.

Could you post at least one HH? Don't wanna defend OP but you should at least post some evidence before calling someone a scumbag cheater many times.

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the last thing need are chinese factories/organizations coming in and raping the poker market through collusion. The small consequence of getting caught cheating in online poker coupled with cheap labor in china is what has always made me concerned about chinese organizations coming in to cheat in sit n goes or low stakes games. Hopefully what stars is doing sets a precedent that it is not profitable for these chinese factories or organizations or w/e the **** they are to enter the poker market, because this is only the start.

Are you being serious or just kidding around? Because pokerstars concluded they were cheats and refunded me and a whack of people. So they found them to be cheating...did a huge investigation....refunded people and banned them...and you want proof from me?

lol k Ill go through my stuff from months ago and get it for you.

Lol...

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