This thread has two main purposes:
1) to help people understand what rakeback they get from their Pokerstars chests
2) to collect and compare data on the types of chests, point requirements, boosts and chest sequences that people receive (in order to better understand the system as a whole).
Select your chest from the list below, to find out your rakeback.
If your Chest Type & Required Points or Boost are not listed,
please post them in this thread Also please post the sequence of chest upgrades you get, or boost sequences (so we can see how much they vary, up or down etc.)
The lists are in two main categories: boosted and unboosted.
Select the chest you most commonly receive, to get the most accurate answer.
If you usually have a combination of different ones (e.g. some boosted, some unboosted) you can take an average of those values.
These are all actual chests that a number of different players have received.
Unboosted Chests
Unboosted Chests: 1 point = 1 cent rake paid.
Type | Points | Rakeback |
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Red | 200 | 7.365% |
Red | 240 | 6.138% |
Red | 280 | 5.261% |
Blue | 560 | 8.139% |
Blue | 650 | 7.012% |
Blue | 675 | 6.753% |
Bronze | 1400 | 8.362% |
Bronze | 2350 | 4.982% |
Silver | 3400 | 8.732% |
Silver | 6800 | 4.366% |
Gold | 18000 | 4.168% |
Gold | 22000 | 3.41% |
Platinum | 48000 | 4.692% |
Low Point Chests (unboosted)
Type | Points | Rakeback |
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Red | 165 | 8.927% |
Blue | 370 | 12.319% |
Silver | 1850 | 16.047% |
Gold | 4250 | 17.651% |
Platinum | 10250 | 21.97% |
Platinum | 20000 | 11.26% |
Boosted Chests
Chest Points - Boost Points = Actual Chest Points Required
(with maximum 'Boost' possible = 1/2 of Chest Points. See notes below.)
These are the rakeback values of chests you play using one Boost, and complete in under 8 hours. The 'Play Thru' column is the total amount of rake paid to open the chest.
Type | Points | Boost | Play Thru | Rakeback |
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Red | 200 | 75 | 125 | 11.784% |
Red | 240 | unboosted | 240 | 6.138% |
Red | 240 | 15 | 225 | 6.547% |
Red | 240 | 45 | 195 | 7.554% |
Red | 240 | 75 | 165 | 8.927% |
Red | 240 | 85 | 155 | 9.503% |
Red | 240 | 100 | 140 | 10.521% |
| | | | |
Blue | 560 | 100 | 460 | 9.909% |
Blue | 560 | 160 | 400 | 11.395% |
Blue | 560 | 175 | 385 | 11.839% |
Blue | 560 | 200 | 360 | 12.661% |
| | | | |
Bronze | 1400 | 200 | 1200 | 9.756% |
Bronze | 1400 | 215 | 1185 | 9.879% |
Bronze | 2350 | 215 | 2135 | 5.484% |
Boosted Chest Info- a chest has its 'Boost On', when the yellow line is visible in the Progress Bar
- You get a new Boost: 8 hours after each and every completed Boost
- The Boost number, is the 'play through' requirement in rake (in cents), to receive double that amount in Chest Points
- Boosted Chests mainly affect people who open red and blue chests, because higher chest types get less boost.
Unboosted Chests: you get 1 point, per 1 cent rake paid.
Boosted Chests: you get 2 points, per 1 cent rake paid, for the duration of the boost. (Example: 10 cents rake paid = 20 points, and removes 10 of your boost points).
The Pokerstars way of explaining it: you earn points at double the rate.
A possibly easier way to see it:
Chest Points Required - Boost Points = Actual Chest Points Required.
The maximum 'boost' possible for a chest, is equal to half of the 'Chest Points' Required. This is because the Boost is a 2x multiplier, which has a play through requirement of the value of the boost. One or more boosts that total half (or more) of the 'Chest Points', once completed, would also complete that chest. Any additional boost would be moved onto the next chest.
100% Boosted Red Chests
If you complete 1 Red chest per day or less , it is possible to complete it entirely on boost.
You will need to play only when the Boost is on, and stop immediately when that Boost has finished. Wait 8 hours for your next boost and repeat.
Basically only play when you can see a yellow line in the progress bar.
(Example : a Red 240 Chest, with 60 boost. Play until boost finishes, stop immediately. Wait 8 hours for another 60 boost, stop when it finishes. Chest completed. Wait for the next boost, repeat.)
You can complete your 1 Red Chest over a number of days, just make sure you only play when the Boost is on.
1 Red Chest per day or less , possible rakeback:
1 Red 200 Chest Points, 100% Boost = 14.729% Rakeback
1 Red 240 Chest Points, 100% Boost = 12.274% Rakeback
Points | Boost | PlayThru | Rakeback |
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200 | 100 | 100 | 14.7293% |
240 | 120 | 120 | 12.27441667% |
(Higher Chest Types above Red, can get downgraded to a lower chest type, if you spend too much time completing them. For example, you start a Bronze Chest on Friday, you take the weekend off, when you come back on Monday, your next chest after completing that one may well be downgraded to a Blue Chest.)
If your Chest Type & Required Points or Boost are not listed,
please post them below .
Please also post sequences of chest upgrades (e.g. Red Chest: 240 boost 75, Blue Chest: 560 boost 75) and boost sequences. Or if your Chest Points required suddenly went up or down, let us know how much, and what action you think caused it. Thanks
The rakeback amounts were calculated using this chart. The list of frequencies is from the Pokerstars website.
Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-29-2017 at 08:39 PM.
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