No, there were no attacks. If anything in this post appears to be aimed at getting you emotional, I think that says more about me than about you:

Just because you've taken this exchange personally doesn't mean there was anything personal about it. It seems you're very emotionally invested in this, and that's causing you to interpret things differently than they are intended. Much differently.

Typically when a message is received much differently than it was intended, it's the sender of the message that should be taking a look at how they delivered it, but in this case I have no idea why you're seeing some kind of personal attack here. Especially so much so that you send me PMs months apart with no reference to the previous ones, I guess expecting I've just been waiting for the next one and will instantly remember who you are and what you're talking about, and then bringing my name into this thread that has absolutely nothing to do with me, as if I've been just waiting for your next post to pounce on.

Hi. I obviously cant say for sure, but in my opinion, something was very fishy as of late. I cant go into detail without having the numbers in front of me, but I just went on a 5/10 10/20 grind on bovada and was rather disgusted at the calls and runouts. In my opinion it felt like superuser play along with bots. Very weird sporadic calling and runouts. I was getting called by hands that had seemingly no chance. I got called down with K high for almost 600. What was even weirder was the interction between the other players. Checking down huge pots between other players and honestly very weird behavior. Also super action flops. 010 v JJ v KK v AA, it seemed suspect to me. I was holding off playing a lot of hands, really picking my spots. I also dont whine about bad beats, but this one was particularly bad. I only played for 3 days, about 5 hours a day, and experienced drawouts and one outs that would be spread over months of playing.

I went on a bit of a ramble, but I agree, in my opinion, the behavior on the 5/10 10/20 tables was very bizarre, yet rewarding for people who had giant stacks, just felting everyone. In my opinion an investigation needs to be done on bovada poker.

No offense, but it is very hard to take your word for it. You just created your account today and that is your very first post unsurprisingly in this thread calling people cheaters with absolute no proof to back it up. Bodog/Bovada/Ignition/Call-it-what-you-will has been paying out winners for years. But hey, cool story bro.

People play like this in my live home game every day for around the same stakes. Some people are well-off and like to gamble.

As someone else said your first post here and no real evidence included its gonna be hard for people to take your side. Did you go through the hand histories of when you played, and not just the hands you were in since all cards are exposed? What did ya see there? Last but not least did you report any of this to them?

I very rarely call people's beliefs and/or theories bull**** from the get-go - I usually ask if they have any evidence. But in this case, I'm definitely calling bull**** on this post as a whole. You've mentioned both super users and bots, and then additionally describe behaviour indicative of collusion and a rigged RNG. All in one session. Bull****.

By which I mean, your post comes across like you don't really know what you're talking about, and once you got it in your head that something nefarious was going on, you viewed every hand as problematic in some way. You need to go back through that session with a more critical and open mind, and figure out what you really think is going on.

Well first let me apologize for offending anyone for stating my opinion . And as for stating my opinion, it cannot be bull****, by definition. Its my opinion. I said I think they need an investigation. I think that is fair to say of any online gambling site. I said it feels like to me that something shady could be going on. Again, Im not sure how anyone, except myself, could speak to the validity of what I feel. But okay. And lastly, I liked all the ad hominem arguments. Haha, this guy with one post obviously cant be making any sense. He only has one post, and he started his account today. PFffffft obviously false.

I didnt mean to rustle any feathers, but the runouts did not feel right to me. I dont think you can jump down someones throat for expressing an opinion. And sorry, but again, its how I felt, not really arguable.

I play a lot of live poker and, and as we all know,beats are part of the game. But to me, it seemed to be happening a lot more. And it was a short session, not a million hands. They could absolutely be 100% genuine, but to me, it felt off.

You didn't rustle any feathers, and I've reread the replies you got, twice, and have yet to find any ad hominems. No one's attacked you, just your post, and for good reason IMO.

Yes, yes, it's just "your opinion". And that's fine. But if you'd like anyone to take your opinion at all seriously, you need to be able to bring at least a little evidence to the table. Or you could answer some of the questions and/or address some of the criticisms of your post.

You've even admitted yourself in this latest post that it was a small sample size. Yet in that small sample size, you think you may have spotted super users, bots, collusion, and a rigged RNG. Try to take a step back and think how silly that's going to sound to an outside observer. You likely don't even have enough of a sample size to even reasonably suspect such things. But if you'd really like to move this forward, you might want to try some of the suggestions already made:

"Did you go through the hand histories of when you played, and not just the hands you were in since all cards are exposed? What did ya see there? Last but not least did you report any of this to them?"

"You need to go back through that session with a more critical and open mind, and figure out what you really think is going on."

Cool Cool. I was just saying its what I felt. I can remove the comment. All good.

Hi all. Funny this post came up. I, too, believe there is some kind of rigging of Bovada's algorithm in its software. I play a lot of NL MTT's and am a very winning player. However, I have been seeing a lot of suspicious hands such as this one way too frequently on its software. Yes, I realize bad beats and such happen but I know my math and the odds of these kinds of hands happening like this on a more than constant basis is just not mathematically possible.

This is just one of many examples of preflop play.

Uh oh someone else who is unsure about the play. And a felow pats fan I see. Upvote.

Since apparently we're voting on things, my vote is that this nonsense be moved into the riggie thread.

Should we have polls before the primary vote. Just to make it interesting.

The only suspicious hand I see is the 84 hand. By the way you seem to be playing against the said opponents indicates they are a crazy donk lag type, so the other hands don't appear suspect at all based on that type of player.

Good suggestions, but I'll do you one better (I think).

Since OP hasn't bothered to return since he created this thread, and it's now just become a magnet for posts that don't belong here, time to lock it up.

If OP wants to post anything further about this, he's welcome to PM one of the mods to open it back up. Those of you who want to bring forward your rigging anecdotes, we have a huge thread in this forum for that. If one of you actually has substantial and meaningful evidence of rigging, superusing, botting, etc., start a new thread.