1st one was 07/17 and got it about 14 business days later. this one cashed out on 27th and still waiting. When I got the check from 17th, it ended up being from a bank right across the street from mine lol

Oh and it took over a week to clear my bank.

VFF req: 8/11
Processed: 8/12
Rec: ?

Has anyone had any bank fees associated with the VFF payouts? I have always used check by courier and am just trying VFF for the first time.

VFF vs wire vs checks? any thoughts on what is basically less conspicuous if you are getting 1-2 coming in every month?


My last few checks have been taking longer, and I asked about other methods and they told me that I can use VFF, but since I haven't deposited in the last 6 months, I would have to deposit again first with a card so I can do a VFF withdrawal to it.

So I am just wondering - what is less likely to raise flags with banks - I have heard a few people post that they mostly all are fine but that some are having issues with banks question them with all methods. Like does repeated VFF and wires looks more strange to a bank than checks every few weeks?

I have always used checks but am not happy about stressing when they are coming or if this next one is going to be the one that bounces, but I wondered if wires and VFF would end up drawing more unwanted attention than checks because right now they usually never bat an eye and since I always have random amounts they seem to just think it's a paycheck

i've been wondering the same thing. never had probs with checks or VFF. never knew what to do for bank wires when it ask for 'intermediary details'. imo spreading out transactions is probably smart. i have a couple different bank accounts with major providers.

i don't really think there is any way to tell which option is less sketchy. i think you just have to be confident and if a bank gives you **** then you just move on and take your business elsewhere. nothing's going to happen to you. you just have to get a new account somewhere that will take it. imo the bigger the bank, the better.

MG has fees and the maximum for me is only $750. Where as a check is free and you get 3-4xs as much in a check. And yes not everybody has VFF.

Intermediary details are unnecessary unless your bank specifically tells you you need them for something. I don't know of a big bank that does, but some smaller credit unions, etc., will go through an intermediary.

Wire transfers are the least sketchy of anything, businessmen (and businesswomen) get wire transfers from all over the world with almost no documentation. Your bank should never even ask, and if they do, tell them it's a business deal. None of theirs, lol.

That said, I've never had trouble with checks in 15 years of doing this, even cashing them at a small credit union. Sometimes they've been held for a week or two until they cash, but that's fine. I've done VFF once, it worked great, but I'd rather get a $9500 wire transfer than a $2500 VFF...

It's not always that smooth. A good friend of mine who was getting max wires regularly just got called by his bank saying they needed to have a meeting with the manager to explain where these wires were coming from.

Friend met with bank, explained they came from X & Y (obv not cards or bovada) and they took the explanation. Two days later bank called friend and said they need documents from his employer explaining exactly what the wires were for and that the payout amounts were proper. Friend couldn't provide this info and asked to withdraw his funds and close the account.

Just FYI

I think VFF is currently the best option since they are currently coming relatively fast and you could withdraw 2500 each week. However if you don't mind waiting an extra week you can withdraw $3k via check for the same fee as VFF. I have yet to request a wire because the wire instructions my bank offered me didn't fulfill all of the info on the bovada form and I was concerned that if I do it incorrectly it could turn into a headache that I would rather not deal with.

I have been withdrawing a $3k check each week and they were coming in 7 days until recently when the started taking 14 days or so. I will often request a VFF between checks since you can only get 1 check a week and those are still coming within a few business days.

Im not really worried about the lag in the checks lately they are still coming in a reasonable time period, so I cant complain.

rec'd 8/14

What's the average amount deducted when you guys have done wires? I was happy to start requesting wires, but my bank took like 4-4.5% converting from euros to usd. On a max wire transfer it cost me right around $400. Checks are just too annoying because they always have to be sent to collections and funds don't show up for like 3 weeks, not to mention the tellers are starting to hate me because of the paperwork that they have to fill out before sending the international check off to collections. I've found VFF to be speedy and reliable, however the $2500 cap is a bummer.

REQ: 7/26
APP: 7/27
TRACKER: 8/14

Expect CIH: 8/14

Req: 7/31
App: 7/31

Previously received all payouts (over 15 via check) within 5 days; 5 days, not 5 business days.

Have been back and forth with email and they just give canned response about 4-7 business days.

No concrete response or information up to this point.

I am preparing to cash out 100%.

check Request : 8/5
Approved: 8/6
RECEIVED:8/14

Got my $1,400 check today for a 7/25 approved request.

It varies based on currency fluctuations, sometimes you make money. The last one posted in this thread made $50.

received 8/14

Just spoke with CS, they are claiming the "courier" did not provide them tracking information.

What type of operation does not have internal controls to properly track checks/payouts? This is just another stall tactic, they are definitely having cash-flow issues.

This is how they all start.

bank wire
req 8-14
appr 8-14
rec'd ____

Based on the thousands upon thousands of dollars processed quickly in this very thread I'd say they are definitely having cash flow issues.

You should go try out Merge if you don't like Bovada.

Ponzi schemes affect a small proportion initially and then it builds up, by the time the majority realizes it is too late.

With the NFL around the corner they will be taking in a windfall in the sportsbook, so that will prop them up - for now.

What type of operation does not have internal controls to properly track checks/payouts? This is just another stall tactic, they are definitely having cash-flow issues.

This is how they all start.[/QUOTE]

More like this is how paranoid inexperienced players start causing a stink over absolutely nothing starts.

(1) A third party does the processing so its not "internal"
(2) They have always paid over the ~8-9 years I have been playing on this site, almost always within 2 weeks.
(2) How you turned them not having a tracking number into cash flow issues I have no clue, and I'm sure you don't either. That would be similar to going to a bank, having the ATM be broken, and coming to conclusion its because they ran out of money.

Sick of seeing people with only a few posts (Means your most likely new to this) freaking out over tiny little things. Entitled kids these days want everything immediately and perfect. Its online offshore poker in 2015, your not going to have an optimal experience every single time. It's absolutely hilarious that your freaking out over a 15 day wait.

Based on him saying something about the NFL I'd say he is a banned troll that isn't new at all. Most new players wouldn't understand enough to realize the NFL has an effect on payouts. (though in my 3 years playing here seriously the NFL never has..... only Merge uses that excuse)

Of course all of the naysayers call a new member a troll; this is firsthand information and posted to inform others.

Take it as you will.

Agreed. In fact, I have never any type of "excuse" from Bodog. Then again, in the extremely rare case when my check takes more than 3 weeks I don't call or e-mail asking for one - I just wait until it arrives like a normal human being who is used to dealing with businesses. I can only imagine what this guy would do in a restaurant if his food took more than 30 minutes to come out.