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Old Today, 12:22 AM   #1
PaulyJames200x
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Software/Rng Question?

Not sure if Rng should be used in the title but i got a software question concerning all sites. Whether playing on stars, partypoker, wpn or whatever site online, are the cards already shuffled and arranged before they are dealt? And thus if a player takes a long time to act or fast time to act, the flop, turn and river is going to be the same cards regardless?


Example everyone gets dealt their cards. And then action begins. Let say someone shoves all in to make it simple. Its folded to a player and they are going to call. But instead of instant calling, they wait a bit before they call. But whether they call right now or say a few seconds from now, is the flop going to be the same regardness? Thus in live poker, well after the cards are shuffled, well the flop, turn and river will be the same cards regardness assuming the dealer does not make an error.


Or say a player bets the flop and then other player takes a while to call. Does him calling that bet compared to taking say a few seconds mean the turn card will be the same regardless? I ask this because i recalled i read a while back full tilt poker... i believe all the cards change all the time? Thus if you take a while to call a flop bet... well the cards are constantly changing so if you wait a bit the turn card will be different etc due to RNG? I'm not sure if this is correct or not but i recalled i read something like this a while back. So does waiting a few seconds to act mean the flop, turn and river will be different? And is it the same on all sites? I know this might sound like a very elementary question. Thanks.
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Old Today, 12:34 AM   #2
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Re: Software/Rng Question?

It's not the same on all the sites, so if you care, you should ask them. But you shouldn't care.

Also, why do you feel the need to turn what is essentially one question (maybe two), into nine? Posts like this (and the fact that all you ever do is ask question after question after question and never contribute anything helpful yourself) are why people are hesitant to answer your questions. Think things through, and then ask what you really want to know.
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Re: Software/Rng Question?

Depends on the site. Not sure what they do now, but in the old days on Poker Stars the deck was set before the cards were dealt, and on Full Tilt the RNG kept going, which is why flips were better on Full Tilt.
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Re: Software/Rng Question?

Can you explain why that would make flips any better?
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Old Today, 04:23 PM   #5
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Re: Software/Rng Question?

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regardless?Thus in live poker, well after the cards are shuffled, well the flop, turn and river will be the same cards regardness assuming the dealer does not make an error.
Thanks for clearing this up i was wondering about this until recently considered starting a thread to get clarification.

As gregorio said in the days stars and FTP were seperate companies they used different systems stars the deck was set FTP you could 2 outer yourself by clicking call at the wrong time. He is wrong that FTP was better for flips though my timing must of been horrific hated that site. Would assume the current system on stars will be the deck is set as they absorbed FTP not the other way round.

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(and the fact that all you ever do is ask question after question after question and never contribute anything helpful yourself)
He did clarify that the deck is set in live poker bobo that might be the first statement he has ever made here that wasn't a question. There was actually a NVG thread a while ago where the dealer was shuffling the deck before the turn and river i believe it was at the triton highroller cash game. Will admit this is the first time i have heard of this happening so maybe the deck being set in live poker isn't always the case.

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