I was doing very well in a PLO game, while suddenly no tables could be opened or closed for me while the games lasted perfectly fine for everybody else.

After contacting live support, they said I would send them a screenshot of it and we would continue from there, but in the meantime they have been unresponsive. In matter of fact, after explaining the issue and saying I should mail support, the conversation was INSTANTLY ended.

Considering my internet connection was working GREAT, and no other websites have any difficulties, the game freezing was entirely on BWIN's end.

I kept waiting under the assumption that all the BWIN/Partypoker

I have lost my share of pots, many over the years to bad connection but this one seemed highly suspicious. I have never been so displeased at a poker website.

This kind of "error" has never happened before and it makes me GREATLY suspect that someone from within BWIN/PARTY might be colluding with players.

Either that, or someone pulled the plug on me because I was dominating the game and would have brought in $250 on $50 and they wanted the other players to "have a chance".

The BWIN software itself kept working perfectly fine. Just not the tables. I am convinced it's sabotage.

Beware of BWIN/Partypoker. They are dodgy. At the least buggy as ****. And they will forsake you. They don't care.

If my internet wasn't working perfectly well on all other websites (I immediatley checked after about 10 seconds of freeze with no response from the other guy) then I could have given them the benefit of the doubt. Or even if the BWIN software was frozen entirely. But everything worked, EVERYTHING, except for opening and closing tables or seeing any of their action. But it wasn't. They are scammy.

-Gentlemen



HERO ($192.54)
JebatPS ($51.32)
RedVyper91 ($50.44)
learn_to_swim ($50.00)
ANTES/BLINDS;
learn_to_swim posts small blind $0.25, HERO posts big blind $0.50.

PRE-FLOP;
JebatPS raises $1.75, samsungnote7 folds, cryingmen11 raises $6.00, RedVyper91 calls $6.00, learn_to_swim folds, HERO calls $5.50, JebatPS calls $4.25.

FLOP; [5C, TC, QD]
HERO checks, JebatPS checks, cryingmen11 checks, RedVyper91 checks.

TURN; [5C, TC, QD, 2H]
HERO checks, JebatPS bets $23.04, cryingmen11 calls $23.04, RedVyper91 folds, HERO folds.

RIVER; [5C, TC, QD, 2H, QH]
JebatPS bets $22.28 and is all-in, cryingmen11 calls $22.28.

Showdown
cryingmen11 shows [AH, AC, 5S, 3D]
JebatPS shows [9S, 6S, 5H, 5D]
JebatPS wins $111.89 from the main pot with full house.

Summary
Dealer: RedVyper91

Main pot : $111.89

Rake: $2.99

cryingmen11 loses -$51.32

samsungnote7 loses $0.00

HERO loses -$6.00

JebatPS bets $51.32, collects $111.89, net $60.57

RedVyper91 loses -$6.00

learn_to_swim loses -$0.25

I have played many more hands on PokerStars and have never experienced something like this.

I *really* recommend PokerStars if you don't want this happening to you, there have been many complains of magical BWIN freezing.

Bug or on purpose, do not take your games to the shady business that is BWIN.

WFT does this even mean? I promise you BWIN wasn't intentionally freezing on you because you're too good at PLO50

Get some sleep op.

Op needs to check the medication. Don't think bwin couldn't care any less if you run like god in plo50.

I wouldn't be certain of that. It is a possibility. Especially since after live support went awol and I've gotten no responses at all to my messages.

Over the years some poker websites have been proven to have weird stuff going on, most likely someone from the inside pulling some strings in the system or having a backdoor than "My PLO game being too good to be frozen".

Why are you shilling for BWIN? I said that part was a possibility, if there were people with BWIN backdoors, don't you think they'd keep it quiet. And in the worst case, their buggy **** software is responsible for losing money in the very least, since my connection was working fine.

You really give a shady bookie like BWIN too much credit if you think it's all fair and run by the books. And even if it is, their software is **** and might freeze at the most inconvenient times (though magically, only your connection to the tables, as the rest of the program worked fine for me, including my account settings).

You want to believe blindly that they should be 100% trusted? That is stupid.

For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cereus...eating_scandal

This happened. And I'm sure others happened. And I'm sure OTHERS happened as well that nobody even heard about. For every person that did this and got caught tens, hundreds of thousands did not.

Maybe mine is not the case, but I think the suspicious nature of the way it happened (in a way that never has to me before) definitely warrants an investigation.

Either way, take that paranoia you see, and add 100x-fold the stupidity, that's how stupid you should be to blindly trust that everything is run "legit".

Also, would it be that surprising if a company that did https://www.onlinepokerreport.com/61...d-on-win-rate/ this would not have any interest at all in protecting stupid idiots? Yeah, totally doesn't fit the profile.

Definitey a possibility.

Do NOT play at PartyPoker.

Do NOT play at BWIN!

hint - when someone says it's probably the obvious answer and that it's not actually a conspiracy to prevent you from cashing it out and rubbing it on your titties, he's probably right and not actually a shill

Not sure what other apps/programs you may be running while playing. But I have noticed the same situation while playing BWIN and seeing my CPU running over 90%.
Running HM & Caption..... if watching a live stream, it will insta lock up.
This is with 16 GB ram ftw.

Still not even the smallest response by mail or an apology. After 2 more days.

Nothing.

I've come to terms with it and for all I care they keep the money.

But I'm never playing there again.

Star is so much better.

maybe you are a stars shill

In spite of everything you shall rise again: You will take up your mouse, which you have forsaken in your great discouragement, and you will go on with your grinding.

Awesome.

Haha no. Never again on the Party / BWIN network. I'm not stupid.

I've played less than 1% of my hands there and this **** happened, yet 99% of my hands at pokerstars and this **** never happened at all.

There is not a more repulsive spectacle than a poker player who will not forsake the room, which has already forsaken him.

Guys, friendly reminder that it has been pretty much a full MONTH, and noone has replied t me!

Not a SINGLE response through email!

Not one!

The amount I am repulsed by bwin/partypoker regarding this issue blows my mind

DO NOT PLAY AT PARTYPOKER! TRUST ME THEY ARE THE ****ING ****TIST AND IVE PLAYED ONLINE FOR 11 YEARS!

For the love of GOD, do not give them your money. Do not become a customer with them. They are slowly dying, this is great. We just have to keep it up and soon enough they will be dead, as they deserve.

A poker player's mind is like a store of idolatry and superstition; so much so that if a player believes his own mind it is certain that he will forsake God and forge some bad beat in his own brain.

You weren't born in the right time. Should have been born thousands of years ago. Become the oracle of delphi. Or nostradamus. Are we witnessing the current version year 2000+? I would say no.

And now back on subject: BWIN has not responded to this issue in a month. If you expect your issues to get resolved or even get responses with a guarantee from BWIN/PP, don't bother. They suck. I bet a lot of dick suckage per hour (DRPM).

First of all I play on Bwin and the connection sucks sometimes so it's not just you. Second of all, when you were disconnected you were up right? So that means you left the table with money that you had won from others so why would they kick you off with no chance to win it back? Please give your head a shake. Oh and they aren't responding to you because you are insane.

I didn't read the rest of the post because it's a Poker forum.

Why the hell are you not betting flop. Then you fold turn? Are you mad? I have no idea why you're posting this hand because it seems like madness to me!!!!

You flop the nuts and you don't bet with a flush draw on board? I'm no PLO GOAT, but I mean ****...

What has been your correspondence history with them since this happened? When did you email them, and have you contacted their rep here on 2+2?

As Bwin and Party Poker forsake a player, we discover in him the foolishness they concealed, and which no one perceived before.

My correspondence has been:
1 - talk to support, they tell me to email them and end conversation
2 - i mail them several times, i get NOT A SINGLE RESPONSE
3 - bwin doesnt have a rep here, party does, i talked to the partypoker rep here about this, totally doesnt give a ****

I am unable to assist I rep for partypoker

I spoke with bwin and they asked my to inform you (as I had previously) to contact the relevant customer service team as stated in the other thread
There are issues which could have caused your disconnection- are you using 3rd party tools? Which other sites did you have running?
Location - local network provider issues?

I am 100% certain no one "purposely disconnected you"

I would personally suggest you use LIVE chat or call them rather than email

Thanks

Colette

I just talked to BWIN on the phone

They claim they received no e-mails from me.

But that's bullsheit, since I got no mail delivery order.

As unlikely as you think it is, it's possible. Here stands before me the sperm reaching the egg out of billions of sperms. Here you live colette. Against all that probability, here you stand. I would say you reaching the egg is a lot less likely than bullsheit like this going on in a poker website.

It's very easy to point at anything else other than take responsibility for it.

"hey it must be third party software, or a website you were visiting, or whatever". If that's true why are people consistently complaining of freezes?

At worst, you have some shady stuff going on. At best, your software is crap.

As long as I sit at Gentlemen's desk, I will remember his lifelong desire to forge agreement, but I will also keep close to my heart the principled stand of his nemesis, BWin, who refused to forsake the bankroll of any player, simply to find agreement.

I do not understand most of your statement - however feedback noted
Thanks