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Betfair is not verifying my documents and just keeps my money [Resolved] Betfair is not verifying my documents and just keeps my money [Resolved]

08-03-2020 , 08:26 AM
I opened a new account at Betfair and deposited 1000€.
Before the deposit everything looked fine and I thought Betfair was a trustworthy site (it was a couple of years ago when I played there).
That was on July 9th.
My account got suspended immediately AFTER my deposit. So I sent in all documents as I have at least 15 times before for other sites. Nothing happened for a couple of days and I didn't get any message from them. So I asked in chat. They just told me my documents weren't accepted (none of the three documents that were accepted EVERYWHERE else) but they didn't tell me why.
So I made new pictures and sent in more documents. That was 2 weeks ago. In chat they told me, they are usually verified within 24 hours, then within 3 days, then within one week and now it is just "in the queue".
I never had problems like this anywhere and have no explanation for it.
Is Betfair a scam now?
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08-03-2020 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
Is Betfair a scam now?
No.

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Originally Posted by sh@dy
I opened a new account at Betfair and deposited 1000€.
Before the deposit everything looked fine and I thought Betfair was a trustworthy site (it was a couple of years ago when I played there).
You opened a second account and surprise surprise it's suspended.
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08-03-2020 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
No.



You opened a second account and surprise surprise it's suspended.
My last account was opened when I lived in London or before (10 years ago).

I didn't remember that I had one, when I opened a new one. I understand it's a problem, but they could have just told me. At least they should give me my money back.

They just do nothing and keep my money.
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08-03-2020 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
I opened a new account at Betfair ... I thought Betfair was a trustworthy site (it was a couple of years ago when I played there). ... My account got suspended immediately ... I never had problems like this anywhere and have no explanation for it. ...
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
My last account was opened when I lived in London or before (10 years ago) ... I didn't remember that I had one, when I opened a new one. I understand it's a problem ...
sh@dy

Now that you've suddenly remembered you had an account with them for about 8 years, you should tell them you forgot you had it, and ask them to move your new deposit over to it.

They might not believe you, but it might speed things up if they accept the excuse for apparent attempted multi-accounting.
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08-03-2020 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
sh@dy

Now that you've suddenly remembered you had an account with them for about 8 years
What kind of replies are these? I really don't like the tone. I never cheated or did anything suspucious at any site.

I didn't play for 8 years. Just wanted to check how tables are nowadays at Betfair.

Edit: I also told them immediately that I might (!) have an old account with them! On July 9th. Unibet and PS actually forced me to open a new account!

Last edited by sh@dy; 08-03-2020 at 09:57 AM.
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08-03-2020 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
... it was a couple of years ago when I played there ...
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
... I didn't play for 8 years. ...

Edit: I also told them immediately that I might (!) have an old account with them! ...
You should be good to go, soon.
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08-03-2020 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
You should be good to go, soon.
That's what they tell me since 2 weeks. But only if I ask them in chat. I got 0 emails or calls.

I went throught this process many times and it never took more than 24 hours I think.
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08-03-2020 , 10:46 AM
Did you ever use responsible gambling tools on your old account?

Remember, Betfair want your money. If you send in docs correctly you will get verified. They're not happy with something. You're saying that's the documents?

Also, if you've been abusive in any way that can slow the process. I'm not saying that you have btw.
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08-03-2020 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Did you ever use responsible gambling tools on your old account?

Remember, Betfair want your money. If you send in docs correctly you will get verified. They're not happy with something. You're saying that's the documents?

Also, if you've been abusive in any way that can slow the process. I'm not saying that you have btw.
What are responsible gambling tools? I used PokerTracker and was a high stakes HU-Player.

I don't really think they would scam me for 1,000€, but this feels very strange. Also I didn't find any way to contact them via email or phone, just through chat.

My documents are perfectly fine and I wasn't abusive, but after contacting them for one week I wasn't super friendly in one of those chats. Nothing serious and I have been friendly since then.
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08-03-2020 , 11:04 AM
They won't scam you, rest assured.

Responsible gambling tools are things like self exclusion, deposit limits, etc.

Verification is getting super stringent now. If your documents are perfect then your frustration is understandable, but how they see them might be different, as it's subjective, so maybe try sending some different documentation in.
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08-03-2020 , 11:15 AM
Ok, thanks. I also sent in multiple documents.

I was a bit scared when I found out that they are not regulated in the UK any more for non-UK players.

But if noone else has problems I guess I will just wait until they let me cashout. I won't play there obviously.
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08-03-2020 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
... I didn't find any way to contact them via email or phone, just through chat. ...
https://betting.betfair.com/lp/info/contact-us.html
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08-04-2020 , 02:13 AM
I guess you can always contact your bank and make a chargeback, but that will forever ban you on betfair and related skins.
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08-04-2020 , 02:26 AM
Thanks, I will contact them via email and phone first. Didn't find that page. And the chat always told me there is no direct way to contact them (verification team) via email.

Will let you know what happened.

Edit:

Sending an email to pokerinfo@betfair.com or info@betfair.com failed!

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This message is from the Forcepoint email protection system, Forcepoint Email Security at host xmail.paddypowerbetfair.com.

The attached email could not be delivered to one or more recipients.

For assistance, please contact your email system administrator and include the following problem report:

<info@betfair.com>: host
paddypowerbetfair-com.mail.protection.outlook.com[104.47.0.36] said: 550
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command)
Edit 2:

It seems you cannot make a chargeback for a regular bank transfer.

So I can only wait...

Last edited by sh@dy; 08-04-2020 at 02:50 AM.
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08-04-2020 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
Thanks, I will contact them via email and phone first. Didn't find that page. And the chat always told me there is no direct way to contact them (verification team) via email.

Will let you know what happened.

Edit:

Sending an email to pokerinfo@betfair.com or info@betfair.com failed!

Edit 2:

It seems you cannot make a chargeback for a regular bank transfer.

So I can only wait...
Have you tried the Message method at https://helpcenter.paddypower.com/app/contact_us/, found by Google search of paddypowerbetfair.com?

And searching for "e-mail" there finds customersecurity@paddypower.com, which looks quite apt.

Edit: Just try to make general contact for a Betfair Poker matter before giving any personal/private information.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-04-2020 at 04:38 AM.
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08-04-2020 , 07:10 AM
Thanks, but I got this reply.

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Hi,
We’re sorry, we have some bad news. You can’t contact us by this e-mail anymore. We’ve done this so that our service gets better and quicker than ever! Messenger/Live chat is the best tools to use because it is immediate, and we want to make sure that we get your query sorted for you quicker than you can make a cuppa.
Well how do you contact us by Messenger/Live Chat? Easy - click here .
Kind Regards,
Paddy Power
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08-06-2020 , 02:00 PM
Today my account shows 0,00€ and a withdrawal was made. Hopefully I will have my money back soon.

Still no communication whatsoever. No way for me to reach them and zero emails from them. Chat support told me it's "in queue" like robots.

I don't wanna know what happens if you win big on that site.

Looks like not only the games got tougher. Pokerstars has almost zero rakeback (needed 320,000 points for my second black chest) but at least I never had any problems with them.
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08-06-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
I don't wanna know what happens if you win big on that site.
If you only have one account like you are suppoused to have nothing is going to happen.
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08-06-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
If you only have one account like you are suppoused to have nothing is going to happen.
I wouldn't trust them any more, but ok, if you do.

And I even trusted AP back in the days
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08-07-2020 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sh@dy
I wouldn't trust them any more, but ok, if you do.

And I even trusted AP back in the days
Let me get this right.

1. You broke their terms and conditions

2. They did not punish you in any way and still paid you

3. Even though you broke the rules and they still paid you, they are not trustworthy

Makes total sense.
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08-07-2020 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MonkeyPox
Let me get this right.

1. You broke their terms and conditions

2. They did not punish you in any way and still paid you

3. Even though you broke the rules and they still paid you, they are not trustworthy

Makes total sense.
I had an account which I hadn't used in 8 years. Unibet and PS told me I HAD TO create a new account. So I didn't really think about the fact that I might have had an old account at Betfair when I lived in England.

It's not like I could have gained anything from it.

They kept my money for almost a month without any communication. Still don't have it in my bank account.
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08-07-2020 , 10:15 AM
Ok, I got my money back now. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

I'm glad I'm out of this business.

CU and good luck.
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