I don't see the issue? He promised you no future problems, now they're shutting down the site on the 25th, so if you can manage to not log in for 6 days, no more problems. Ever. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

I can't believe that everyone is shocked, SHOCKED that Betcoin is going to roll with the $800k BBJ after they rolled on jasonort's 500 BTC jackpot. That was exactly when I pulled all my money off the site. jasonort's stolen jackpot would be worth a cool $8.6 million USD now, speaking of bad beats.

I don't want either of us to be anything. Just think what you want. I never did anything wrong. Gl.

Chat started on 19 Dec 2017, 10:07 PM (GMT+0)
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(10:07:08) joe: no response to my expedited ticket
(10:08:16) joe: ticket 158943
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(10:14:17) joe: i appreciate it. Id really like to play on the site for the next few days until they close it down
(10:14:33) joe: but i must have whats owed to me before i make any more deposits
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Stay tuned!

Are you implying that you just leave your pimp canes laying around?

Poor pimp-cane hygiene itt.

Multiply that by two actually (~1,000 BTC Jackpot)

It was mostly my fault for assuming the 1,000,000 Jackpot meant 1,000,000 0.5 mbtc credits (or ~500 btc)

It turns out all Betsoft jackpots are listed in mbtcs, regardless of the denomination. (despite the fact that each denomination has a seperate jackpot)

So, it was a 1,000 BTC jackpot (that nobody will ever win, it magically got reduced and the higher denoms dropped a few months ago...)

All accounts who brought up the BBJ on their forum have been banned. All the posts mentioning it have been deleted. Scot Lenter/PokerRoomRep have some explaining to do.

If you were capable of gaining affiliates from your little attempt, you would have some explaining to do too, then. Good thing your little money grab didn't work out, huh?

Why don't you respond to what I said instead of leveling the same lame accusation. Why is your site scrubbing all posts of the BBJ and banning multiple accounts for attempting to bring it up? It is because your site intends to run with the money right Scot Lenter?

I was in this thread prior to your site's most recent theft warning them about the unethical behavior of your site. You are still on Betcoin this morning shilling. I admitted my mistake months ago, stopped promoting your site and have been working to keep people from getting stolen from by Betcoin. What is your explanation?

Also Scot Lenter I had players come to me to sign up for the affiliate program that I started (and abandoned) back in July. I did not sign any of them up because shortly after I started it I realized your site was not upholding your end of the rakeback agreement they had post-xaio. If you look at the thread you actually posted you will notice that. Others sent me PMs to try and sign up and I signed none of them up.

But hey Scot Lenter keep making excuses for why your site isn't paying the BBJ out here in December. I am sure me having a non-existant affiliate program absolves you of all guilt.

I will say it again. Let's bet a significant amount of money on whether they steal the money or not? We can escrow. If you aren't sure they are going to pay why are you still on the site this morning promoting it?

I have zero guilt. Blaming a sponsored pro for your issues with a site is idiotic. You must hate Michael Mizrachi and Carlos Mortensen too. Those guys were with FTP til the end! This is the end of my responses to you because you don't think about things rationally. You just develop an idea in your head and run with it.

So is the site paying out the BBJ?

Ok. Your thoughts are clear. You have zero qualms about being a site pro and being paid in stolen players funds by a site that was actively stealing player funds over the last 5-6 months. No need to keep posting excuses here if that is how you feel. I was attempting to post an update this morning that it appears Betcoin is scrubbing any mention of the BBJ.

No they aren't at least based on the fact that they are actively deleting any mention of it and banning accounts. Scot Lenter is a scumbag who is still promoting the site as of this morning.

Hey Scott will you come on todd witteles' podcast next week and discuss things. There will Def be a segment on betcoin and he wants to hear all sides.

Have him reach out to me by PM if he wants.

isnort is the site paying out the BBJ or not?

I don't know

In Las Vegas over the years I've been to a few casinos that were closing and they were required to pay out money from like progressive slot machines and such. They would take all the money and just start having drawings every hour to distribute the money.

If BC runs with this money, it is just another reason for true legislation. Plus another reason online poker players should push to have every BBJ eliminated. It gives the site a money grab exit strategy they should not have available.

When a card room closes it's pretty standard to simply low the bad beat qualifier gradually. They can not legally close their room without returning all progressives to the players.

I'm Todd.

I will send you a PM with my information. There will probably not be a show this week because I'm sick, but there will likely be one on Wednesday, December 27.

I realize that this is after betcoin will have closed poker, but it doesn't really matter, because that fate is sealed.

If you are just a sponsored pro, indeed there's nothing you can do if management/ownership of the site has decided to cheat people.

However, what you CAN and SHOULD do is the following:

1) Stop promoting the site immediately

2) Urge all of your followers to stop playing on the site and to cash out immediately

3) Provide ANY AND ALL information you have on the owners and managers of the site to parties interested in investigating this.

Anything short of the above means you are acting as an accomplice to the theft.

And yes, I said THEFT, as the bad beat jackpot is player money, and failure to pay out ALL of it in a fair and equitable manner is straight up stealing.

As there is a lot of money involved, and a lot of angry people, please think about this carefully and do the right thing.

I would like to welcome you to appear on my next radio show, and you are welcome to fully speak your mind with no censorship.

Over the last 6 months they have stolen player funds in several ways. The biggest are:

Promised to pay xaio rakeback and then failed to do so in July 2017.
Promised to give plauers BitcoinCash when the fork happened and then failed to do so and kept it for themselves. (Roughly worth 1/4 of BTC so in essence they stole a huge amount of player funds here, probably more than the BBJ)
Promised to reimburse players for step tourney tickets after they discontinued them and failed to do so.
Now the BBJ

Scott Lenter (isnortbooze) was aware of all of these issues as they were major sources of discontent and people leaving the site over the last few months. Instead of advocating for the players he continues to pimp Betcoin on Twitter and elsewhere. He is already an accomplice to theft by your very definition as has been for several months.

If you have him on please ask him why he continues to promote the site, collect a salary and help them sweep these issues under the rug after these issues occurred. The amount stolen is well into the millions if you add up all of the above.

Also please ask him how he can be so tone deaf as to come here and whine about losing his "job" while literally every person who has played in Betcoin has been systematically stolen in some or all of the above ways.

Also I agree he could easily expose management as far as who they are so that they could at bare minimum be blackballed from poker. I assume the reason he is still on Betcoin promoting away in chat and hasn't done this is because he is holding out hope of staying on the payroll in some capacity to continue to get some of those sweet sweet stolen player funds he has enjoyed so much the last several months.

Hey guys.
Have people received withdraws?
I made withdraw couple of days ago but haven't received that.
I asked that from live chat and they said i should make a ticket. I made and sent a new message. I got respond where they asked my Login name. I gave them that but haven't heard anything about after that.
Expect they sent me some depositbonuscode or something.

If someone from the betcoin reading this can u answer? My username is '' sonikue ''

Thank you

I didnt receive a withdrawal since 60 hours, also 2 messages to support without an answer.
Not sure whats going on here

The minimum amount to enter or withdraw is 0.01 mB. Check that you are not trying to take out for example 150.001mB does not leave 150.00mB instead.

I think this is a clear case of withdrawals being delayed because of BTC hookers and deepweb blow.

I got it now, so np