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11-23-2009 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Suitedbut
Bump one time!! =p


UB is under much the same management as before so beware

Prob not a good idea to reward crooks anyway - give your rake to some half honest people
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07-27-2010 , 12:45 PM
Hello, 8 months ago I deposited money to Bet365, I played on the site and won some money. Later on, when I wanted to withdraw my moneys, they said that I'm suspected of collusion.

I have not done anything, that could be assimilated with collusion, I've sent them over 15 e-mails and gave them every piece of information they needed.

Today I got an e-mail from them, that says: "Following an investigation by our Network Poker Security Department, they conclude that they are no longer able to offer you access to the iPoker Network. Evidence from the investigation has indicated that collusion had taken place with another player.

However, please be advised that your Casino, Games, Bingo and Sports accounts at bet365 remain active."

I do not suggest you to play on that site, wanted to warn you and any tips getting my moneys back would be awesome.

Thanks.
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07-27-2010 , 12:48 PM
So they claimed you were involved in collusion, yet didnt give any evidence.

Either you are telling lies.
Or
Spoiler:
You are telling lies
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07-27-2010 , 01:16 PM
Whether you did or didn't it's Ipoker not Bet365. Bet365 are a very reputable UK bookmaker.

Post all emails.
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07-27-2010 , 01:36 PM
Thread title should be changed until you provide evidence of them being a scam site.

I have been with bet365 for a few years now and they are a great company who value their customers all the same. Highly respected sportsbook with a great team running the show.

You cheaters have no one to blame but yourselves once the sites do away with you.
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08-31-2011 , 11:23 AM
Sorry for my bad english.

I only warn you that what you say scum bet365. Since I wanted to take the opportunity to play for depositors freeroll pokerstrategy over there I gradually put € 65. My pitch was that I put money through Sporopay Slovak Savings Bank. Something I played in the Roulette betting I had nothing in common. And I wanted the money to choose. The first problem occurred when I wanted to send money to a bank account. I found that the minimum choice is € 125 so I could not choose. The river no problem. We send more € 60 and removed. But then I found the slides that before when I want something I have to choose the total amount bet. Repeat the entire amount. Although the strikes do not have anything to do and I just wanted to play poker. This I have never experienced. And I have played in different suck. I have not used and no bonus. I do not understand why when I play poker so I bet everything that I could pick his money. And so I obliged to believe anything as first bet € 65 on some sure thing. Of course it turned out as expected, and I lost the match live betting with odds 1.1 tennis, when it miraculously turned around some guy with 3 mačbolov. And so I have nothing to these thieves and my € 65. And any conditions for registration in the poker was. None of the idols did not want to take bets. Slide also sucks. Although the Slovak but he will not say anything more and your skin and staying. So I advise all hands off the mob or play or whatever it is
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08-31-2011 , 12:38 PM
Stop using google translate and learn how to make paragraphs.
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08-31-2011 , 12:47 PM
I suggest you find someone who speaks your language and english to translate for you.

Also I have used bet365 for over 8 years and have always found them helpful and reasonable. I remember I misunderstood a promotion once which caused me to fall short of the point requirements. After I phoned them they agreed to give me a 24 hour extension.
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11-16-2012 , 12:49 PM
Hi there

Long time poker player.....first time thread starter.
So...basically,i play on a few sites here and there,decided i would give bet365 a go....now,before i even though about depositing,i had a nice little chat with a guy on support called "Antony B". He assured me that once i deposited,i would not have to do any kind of playthrough before i had access to my funds.
So,i went ahead and deposited,played on their poker client a few times throughout the week,lost a little,nothing much,then found i could get a better deal at another site,so of course i want my money back....i made my withdrawal request,received an email from moneybookers and it was £150.89 short....after quizzing the support team on live chat they said i had incurred charges as i didnt play on the site at all!...i assured them that i had played on their site,many hundred hands,but i needed my money back. The support woman "sammy" was completely unsympathetic and bacially told me i had zero chance of getting my money back as i had not played enough!.
Now why would i even consider playing at bet365 if i thought i wasnt going to have FULL access to my funds??.
I cannot tell you how frustrated i am with this,i have never had any problems on any sites regarding deposits/withdrawals. Has anyone else had any problems with this or can offer some help at all??? SO ANNOYED!

Cliffs : Bet365 robbed me of £150 with no explanation
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11-16-2012 , 01:06 PM
Unfortunately...

2.3 If the value of a deposit is not played through in full before a withdrawal is requested, bet365 reserves the right to make a charge to the customer’s account to cover all reasonable costs relating to both the deposit and withdrawal. If necessary, the value of the withdrawal requested may be reduced accordingly.

In the first instance I would ask them to explain why they think £150 is reasonable and politely request they consider making an exception given that you relied on information given by their own Support.

You might also ask if they will refund if you go ahead and play through the value of your initial deposit.

After that I guess it's off the Regulators if you get no joy.
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11-16-2012 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWest2u
Hi there

Long time poker player.....first time thread starter.
So...basically,i play on a few sites here and there,decided i would give bet365 a go....now,before i even though about depositing,i had a nice little chat with a guy on support called "Antony B". He assured me that once i deposited,i would not have to do any kind of playthrough before i had access to my funds.
So,i went ahead and deposited,played on their poker client a few times throughout the week,lost a little,nothing much,then found i could get a better deal at another site,so of course i want my money back....i made my withdrawal request,received an email from moneybookers and it was £150.89 short....after quizzing the support team on live chat they said i had incurred charges as i didnt play on the site at all!...i assured them that i had played on their site,many hundred hands,but i needed my money back. The support woman "sammy" was completely unsympathetic and bacially told me i had zero chance of getting my money back as i had not played enough!.
Now why would i even consider playing at bet365 if i thought i wasnt going to have FULL access to my funds??.
I cannot tell you how frustrated i am with this,i have never had any problems on any sites regarding deposits/withdrawals. Has anyone else had any problems with this or can offer some help at all??? SO ANNOYED!

Cliffs : Bet365 robbed me of £150 with no explanation
There's obviously been some kind of misunderstanding (no need for CS to be so ****y though). Contact them again and tell them some of the games you played in if you still have the hand history.

Post emails (as others will ask anyway).

Last resort contact their regulators http://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/remotegambling

Last edited by laughing gravy; 11-16-2012 at 01:16 PM. Reason: Spelling
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11-16-2012 , 01:13 PM
Hi there

Thanks for your info you have posted.
My arguement is,the support guy told me before i made my deposit that i would incur no charges at all for playing their poker product and withdrawing from the site whenever i wish!...
And secondly...£150!??? youve got to be kidding me! if it was £30 its not even an issue! but i feel theyve basically robbed me of £150 for no reason because i acted onwhat their support staff told me!.
How do they get any players at all if this is the way they treat them???.
Anyone else had this sort of trouble????
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11-16-2012 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fadrus
Unfortunately...

2.3 If the value of a deposit is not played through in full before a withdrawal is requested, bet365 reserves the right to make a charge to the customer’s account to cover all reasonable costs relating to both the deposit and withdrawal. If necessary, the value of the withdrawal requested may be reduced accordingly.
That's rough. Bet365 are a decent regulated company though.

When I have played there I just transfer from Sports Account to Poker and back again.
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03-01-2013 , 12:36 PM
So I lost a lot of money, then I joined a tournament and was winning really well, I went all in on a good hand and 3 or 4 other people joined me and busted themselves, all had pretty cruddy hands. Next thing I know account is locked.

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Lauren C has joined this chat.
You are now chatting with Lauren C.
Lauren C Hello, welcome to bet365 Live Chat. How may I help you?.
Sam Hey Lauren
Sam I know it is not your fault, but I was playing in a tournament and beat like 3 people (poker) so i had like 9,000 chips and then my account is locked
Sam I dont understand what this is because!
Lauren C You have come through to the Sports Department. I can transfer you to the Poker team if you like?
Sam This is a satelite tournament for 200,000EU, so what is the idea? That the company kicks a chipleader?
Sam please thanks you
You are being transferred...
Lauren C has now left this chat.
Debbie M has joined this chat.
You are now chatting with Debbie M.
Debbie M Hello. I am looking into the query for you now, please hold one moment.
Sam thanks you deebbie
Debbie M Before we discuss specific details on your account, could I take your four-digit security number please?
Sam xxxx
Debbie M Thank you Sam did you get any error message?
Sam 'you account locked please contact asistance'
Sam I am really upset this is the best play i have ever had on poker!
Debbie M Thank you one moment while I look into this for you.
Sam I have been using your company for a few months and I have invested some money there, I dont understand the problem, will I be retourned to my tournament?
Debbie M You will have received an email from us which you need to reply to providing the information that has been request please check your emails.
Debbie M I am unable to discuss this matter further with you. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Sam WHAT?
Sam Can your manager call me on my cell now please
Debbie M You will need to deal with the email you have been sent please.
Sam i have no email
Sam i am a member of 2+2 and pocketfives.com
Debbie M One moment please.
Sam this conversation along with history of my tournament will be posted on 2 forums receiving more than 200,000 daily unique visitors, all of them poker enthusiasts.
Sam Your manager needs to call me
Debbie M I'm sorry for the delay. I’ll be right with you.
Sam This is really not a good day for me I lost some money now I NEED TO WIN IT BACK
Debbie M Please hold for me while I try and resolve this issue for you.
Sam for you guys to kick me out of a tournament I was clearly dominating seems;

a) sensless-This was a satelite tournament to another, no cash prize

b) unfair - no reason or explenation has been give to me

c) theft - I had some money invested in this tournament, this was taken from me

as a loyal user of bet365 I expect full reimbursment and an entrance into the tournament I was satelliting for.
Sam I would like a response please
Debbie M I will be right with you.
Debbie M Thank you for holding the email has been resent to you please check your emails now for me.
Debbie M Yes any remaining funds will then become withdrawable.
Sam What about the tournament?
Debbie M This will be dealt with once you have replied to the email.
Sam This is unacceptable, no email has been received, I am calling your department now and if I receive no decent explenation I will post on the forums I mentioned. No-one in the poker community will trust you guys again.
Debbie M I am sorry you feel this way however I am unable to discuss this matter further until you have dealt with the email. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Sam I need your manager to call me, this explenation with my money is unethical business practice
what can I do then?

Last edited by Rainbow Warrior; 03-01-2013 at 03:05 PM. Reason: sec. # removed
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03-01-2013 , 12:51 PM
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Sam this conversation along with history of my tournament will be posted on 2 forums receiving more than 200,000 daily unique visitors, all of them poker enthusiasts.
Well, go on.
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03-01-2013 , 01:06 PM
Check your spam folder for the email, reply to email, discuss compensation once outstanding issue is resolved.
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03-01-2013 , 01:08 PM
I am locked when I enter the bet365 page, so a fail on my part

it was like 10th hand into a tournament, first hand someone went all in i had AQ suit and followed, he bust

10th hand similar thing happens, I have AA and bet big, on the flop A and QQ or something comes down, I go all in, 4 or 5 people at the table follow me with very poor hands

average chip size by now was 1600, highest bellow me was 3000 I had aprox 7000

after I won that hand I should have had at least 14000 chips, cant see why they would do this so early into a tournament but I was kicked as soon as that hand was finished.

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03-01-2013 , 01:21 PM
What did the email say? Op right though shouldn't let him register for a tournament and then lock him out.
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03-01-2013 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by m666er22
what can I do then?
Show a little patience before starting threads declaring this a scam?
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03-01-2013 , 02:51 PM
Were you playing on bet365 from a restricted country?
maybe your vpn failed
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03-01-2013 , 02:53 PM
Think should take it easy on OP. He is clearly new to poker. If his story checks out this is a really unsettling experience that would drive many, if put into the same situation, away from online poker.
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03-01-2013 , 03:01 PM
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Dear Mr ,


Please be advised your poker account at bet365 has been suspended temporarily following an investigation by our Network Poker Security Department.



The poker network has found collusive play on your account and requires an explanation for this. Because of this your funds are locked in your account and will remain there until a resolution has been found.



We would like to bring your attention to the following in our terms and conditions:



We do not allow players to use our poker tables to pass funds to other players by deliberately folding re-raised hands in heads up situations or any other such situation that enables intentional passing of funds from one player to another. For security reasons we investigate all incidents of chip passing and accounts will be suspended while such investigations takes place.



Passing of funds is not allowed, and may result in the following:



- Players being disqualified and removed from the game.
- Players forfeiting all buy-in amounts.
- Players being permanently banned from the Multi-Player Poker.
- Money or chips gained in relation to such activity being permanently locked.


In order to proceed, we will need you to confirm your four-digit security number. If you are unable to recall your four-digit security number, go to Services in the top right corner of our website, click on Help, select FAQ - My Account and refer to What if I forget my four-digit security number.



We look forward to hearing from you. Our team are available 24 hours a day by Live Chat, via email support-eng@customerservices365.com, freephone +800 12 365 365 or alternatively call +44 1782 684757 and we will be pleased to assist you. Please include your username and four digit security number on all future responses.



Kind regards,
email received. So reading this, I am more confused. I lost 95% my stack on head to head omaha though before this tournament?


EDIT- I am Austrian using computer locally without VPN, I am fine to use Bet365 from this country.

@Doorbread - I am deffinately new to online poker
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03-01-2013 , 03:06 PM
They are accusing you of collusion. Give them your security code and request the hand histories since you cannot log into your account. People here should be able to judge whether or not your play was collusion or a chip dump.
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03-01-2013 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by m666er22
Sam - i am a member of 2+2 and pocketfives.com
Sam - this conversation along with history of my tournament will be posted on 2 forums receiving more than 200,000 daily unique visitors, all of them poker enthusiasts.
You made new accounts on both of these sites this morning.
Did you have previous accounts?

They're convinced that you were chip-dumping or being dumped to.

Do you have any of the screen names involved in the questionable play?
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03-01-2013 , 03:34 PM
I just started playing online poker, usually anything I take seriously I like to inform myself with so I join a forum, read books etc.

Obviously I dont know how many Unique Visitors you guys get, I was just furious at the time and blast messaged some rubbish to the guys.

my screen name was m666er22 I dont know who the people in the tournaments were and in the omaha h2h my opponent was b4ll3r or something, I really appreciate your help guys I just felt so powerless when I was kicked there. I know Its not really a huge chanec i would have won that satellite, then got into the money on the 200,000k. But there was a chance, and a greater one due to the fact of me being chipleader at the time

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