getting someone in thailand killed should be cheapo. It's got my 10%..

lol good idea imo

This is getting ugly...

**** this **** still no **** update wtf are these liquidators doing i can get a ******ed dog to deal with this faster and better

As acethiest from our private discussions I have been researching this whole situation.

I believe that I have found a way that would "some" players to recieve all of their funds back.

It may even allow "all" players to make a full recovery.

drumrollll

Uhm... say it?!

Do you want to share your ideas with the rest of us? I guess so, otherwise you wouldn't have written that, so SAY IT.

mellowman can you explain please

There has been a similar situation recently in Australia where an internet based gaming site closed and retained the players funds.

With a little prompting the players were REFUNDED 100%.

I suggested a number of weeks ago to pursue a course of action and then prompted when it appeared no one had.

This is a life lesson folks,.. I've given advice and been ignored.

It seems people on here would rather wring their hands or moan and cry in their beer rather than taking productive suggestions to heart in order to resolve this situation.

So my research bears out the distinct possibility of full player recovery with a higher likelihood for players who can prove they made a withdrawl request.

Are you talking about a bookie operating with an Australian licence?

It was.

Are you suggesting a CIVIL suit against Talbot?

This is hopeful news, I suggest anyone who is serious send a private pm to mellow. Anyone who has serious money involved shoudl do so.

There are no grounds for a civil suit against anyone in my opinion.

WHAT is hopeful news?? Why all the mystery if there is a legitimate approach to take? I hope this mysterious "hopeful news" doesn't involve sending a retainer in advance of knowing what it is?

Sorry to sound cynical, but this isn't passing my sniff test. The last thing the screwed players need is to get screwed again.

Talk to acethiest,... there is a way in my opinion to fully recoup balances that was made prior to the formalization of the Liquidator's appointment.

I have a ton of hours invested in the research.

I have no vested interest in the Tusk situation, because unlike the players whose funds are caught , I always do my due diligence before entrusting some internet company with my $$'s.

As for my creds, ask around ,.. some of your poker buds may have been a member of the 9lives poker forum when it was active.

I was the admin of that forum and was an active advocat in routing out the fraudsters and shysters that populate the online poker site owners.

Anyone who was a member of that forum will remember getting their "MELLOW MAIL"

Ok, so assume I take your creds at face value. Again, why the secrecy? If you have no vested interest, please let us all know and we'll be eternally grateful.

Surely that makes more sense than hundreds of us private messaging you or Acetheist?

Post in the thread ffs, it's bad enough that certain other people will only respond to certain questions via pm, we don't need eachother to be withholding information from everyone else.

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I find it totally unbelievable that a group of individuals with as much money tied up have done exactly nothing to try and recoup their funds.

Its almost as though you all feel that its someone elses responsibility to come in and bail you out.

Over the course of the past few months I have made many posts about my research as it progressed, suggested courses of action or inaction in other cases, ie chasing the police idea, (obvious that no one had read Interpol's mandate) or the fact that there was no criminal action here only civil.

The law in Australia protects the players.

I have read it and understand the appropriate sections.

Certain player's balances should be 100% protected by the law.

Other players who had made a partial withdrawl request should be protected for 100% of the withdrawl request, whilst the remainder would form a portion of the players pool.

And lastly, I believe a case can be made to the appropriate authorities to force the liquidators to recognize the players funds as secured rather than unsecured.

I spent most of my career working the law and by that I mean reading and interpreting it and bending it to my will where possible.

So people read the Interactive Gambling (Player Protection) Act, specifically the sections starting with sec 134.

OR

Hire a good gaming lawyer in Aus, have him do the research for you, assemble the names, players balances and supporting documents to write to the Gov't and come up with a workable strategy, shouldn't cost any more than $15-$20K.

despite the superior tone that makes me want to disagree with him, i think mellowman is right

PM me if you want to go in on hiring a lawyer with me. I'm gonna talk to some other people I know have a lot of money tied up and try to put something together.

Wasn't there someone some time ago who collected information of the players who had like over 10K involved in this?

Nothing came of this I messaged them.

For all you skeptical of mellow that is fine. I have been pretty disgusted with the inactitivty of posters on this board (this includes myself somewhat). But I have neither the legal know how nor the time to take things into my own hands.

I have spoken to mellow off and on. While he may come across as egotistical at times on this board I beleive he is very smart and knowledgble in the industry. Plus he loves to take on any big company/individual if not solely out of pride.

I'm not going to discuss this anymore publically (for those of you asking questions it should be very obv why mellow is so vague, just think abotu it). In all honesty I'm not sure of the plan and only have good ideas of why this is kept quiet. At this point though I have very little to lose and any help is well appreciated.

FTR mellow has been the most helpful poster to me, battlefeild being second.

Again anyone who is serious i suggest messaging him. Messages to me are always welcome although I won;t be able to provide much info as a result of my own ignorance in regards to what must be done.

How likely is this to get us our money back? I have no idea, but at least its something.

I infer from your comments that mellow is an attorney who has solicited your business.

If he had simply come out and said that was what he was looking to do, then I might be a potential client myself.

But the teasing I-know-something-you-don't game playing and his claimed "no vested interest" doesn't sit well with me. The arrogance I can live with.

Anyway, best of luck to you.