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02-22-2018 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
krabis, if the price of a chp goes to $1 usd the exchances will not be charging $132 usd, your assertion is asinine and you don't belong in this thread.
You are only one talking about 132$ fee, i did not come up with that ridiculous idea. I showed current 132 CHP fee only.
HitBtc seem keep ETH token withdraw fee around 10-25$ area as i see from other ETH tokens they sell. High enough to Exchange being basically useless for micro-low stakes players who not plan to deposit big Amount or lose 10-50% his deposit by just putting CHP on room.

Last edited by krabis; 02-22-2018 at 08:26 PM.
02-22-2018 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
krabis, you don't belong in this thread.
Actually it's you that doesn't belong in this thread. You work for this company, if not you are deeply affiliated with them and you're constant shilling is unbearable. You're telling posters you have greater knowledge than them, telling them they don't belong...lol get a grip guy

I thought site reps had to be verified here and the proper undertitle given?
02-22-2018 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
krabis, if the price of a chp goes to $1 usd the exchances will not be charging $132 usd, your assertion is asinine and you don't belong in this thread.

Why are you trolling this thread? 0 useful posts, mainly just ranting and useless posts that try to derail every point made. Getting paid by CoinPoker?
02-22-2018 , 08:41 PM
Don't think he's a site rep, he's the guy that used to be obsessed with John Nash, his new obsession is crypto.
02-22-2018 , 09:16 PM
He is the Nash guy? I thought that person was insta banned whenever he created a new account. He usually never made it to 50 posts with any account, let alone the 1,000 he is at now. Granted I have read about 20 of them total as I don't follow this thread much, and while whoever it is seems way over the top drama shilly (even in small doses), I never equated that to the Nash guy, though it has been a while since I saw a past iteration of him, and I don't recall many details of him other than a character who presented clear picture of a person with thousands of sticky notes on a wall with red string between them.

If it is the Nash guy he better hope Mike Haven doesn't find out!
02-22-2018 , 09:18 PM
Yeah, he sent me a pm of Nash spam after I asked if it was him in NVG. He's done well this time.
02-22-2018 , 09:22 PM
Good for him for his relative longevity this time. It has been quite a while since I last saw him that I forgot what issues/buttons set off his top level crazy manifesto speak (and I admit I have barely read this thread). Perhaps it was stating the obvious that while John Nash was ok, it was Kevin Nash with the much better nickname.

Good luck to this company if that is their main sales guy on the forums!
02-22-2018 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot

I used it and it was fine. I think i had to give my drivers license number, which i did in case I need to verify myself (ie i lose my credentials), but i think probably you could put a fake one in. Just don't store a ton of value on the exchange, and perhaps if you have a lot of chps to buy or sell then you can do a test exchange with a smaller amount.

It is also on hitbtc as I understand which also reputable enough to make an exchange but I haven't heard if they are serving chp exchanges well and I haven't tried it out.

There is also etherdelta which is reputable as it is effectively decentralized (I believe) but it has a learning curve for people new to ethereum/crypto.
Thanks for the reply. I now have an allcoin account but I don't know how to get my CHP there. I have my allcoin CHP address, but my MetaMask gives me the option to transfer ETH but not CHP.

How do I change this?

Also, would be good if Coin Poker could address these topics.

Their FAQ includes a link to a how-to guide which doesn't exist - the link redirects to the home page.
02-22-2018 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by justAnobody
Actually it's you that doesn't belong in this thread. You work for this company, if not you are deeply affiliated with them and you're constant shilling is unbearable. You're telling posters you have greater knowledge than them, telling them they don't belong...lol get a grip guy

I thought site reps had to be verified here and the proper undertitle given?
Seriously, the guy's been here 4 months and has 996 posts. Most if not all of them in this thread making wild and unverifiable claims in support of CoinPoker.

There is 0% chance he is not affiliated with the site in some way or another.
02-22-2018 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin
Thanks for the reply. I now have an allcoin account but I don't know how to get my CHP there. I have my allcoin CHP address, but my MetaMask gives me the option to transfer ETH but not CHP.

How do I change this?

Also, would be good if Coin Poker could address these topics.

Their FAQ includes a link to a how-to guide which doesn't exist - the link redirects to the home page.
Currently, myetherwallet already hosts about 50 different ERC20 tokens, but with all of the new coins coming online, you may need to add a new token to your wallet. Fortunately this is quite easy. First, navigate to View Wallet Info and then click on Show All Tokens and make sure the token you want to add isn’t already there. If it’s not, you then need to click on the Tokens (Ethplorer.io) link underneath the token list. Once at ethplorer.io, search for the token you want to add. After finding it, copy its contract address and make note of how many decimal places the coin has. Once you’ve done that, go back to myetherwallet.com and paste in the contract address, the token ticker name (the short name of the coin. For example the ticker of ethereum is ETH), and the number of decimals it uses, hit save, and that’s it! You’ve now added a new ERC20 token to your myethewallet.com address. All that’s left to do is send your ERC20 tokens from your current location to your myetherwallet address.

Quote from Steemit poster Anarcrypt

The Decimal is 8
02-22-2018 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ronmon
Seriously, the guy's been here 4 months and has 996 posts. Most if not all of them in this thread making wild and unverifiable claims in support of CoinPoker.

There is 0% chance he is not affiliated with the site in some way or another.

If you experienced the history of the Nash guy you would actually understand that genuinely being affiliated with a specific company that falls within whatever his latest obsession is is not actually important to him. Don't try to apply normal behavior rules and expectations.
02-23-2018 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by justAnobody
You work for this company, if not you are deeply affiliated with them and you're constant shilling is unbearable.
It's unfortunate that posters have become so cynical that they lob out shill (one of the most misused words on this forum) accusations at the drop of a hat now, and no one can be bothered to even check the most basic facts.

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Originally Posted by ronmon
Seriously, the guy's been here 4 months and has 996 posts. Most if not all of them in this thread making wild and unverifiable claims in support of CoinPoker.

There is 0% chance he is not affiliated with the site in some way or another.
Here's a really good example. I mean, it took me about 5 seconds to check how many posts he has in this thread. Pretty sure 92/996 posts isn't remotely close to "most if not all of them". And really, I didn't even have to check anything beyond the number of posts in this thread - 685. How this accusation could've made sense to you - well, it couldn't, had you thought about it. And all that aside, you should go back and read the first few pages of the thread and check out noose's posts there. Worst shill ever.

Occam's Razor, anyone? Yes, this is our good old Nash guy - I've been pretty sure of that since the first few weeks he started posting, and certain of it not long after, as I usually am with most of his accounts. He has a very unique posting style. But he also brings some value when he's posting reasonably - many of his posts in the NVG decentralized poker thread (the one where he actually posts most often) have been decent, or at the very least have led to some interesting discussion. This is usually how it is with him - he sticks around for some good conversation, and then usually gets out of line at some point and loses another account. So back to Occam's Razor - he's nothing more than an over-exuberant alt-coin/decentralized poker guy. Could he be either a former CP skeptic/critic turned paid employee, or a really clever shill who started off pretending to be against the site to set up his shill game for later? Sure. Do I find it likely? No, not very. 0% chance he's not affiliated with the site? LOL.

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Originally Posted by justAnobody
Actually it's you that doesn't belong in this thread....

...You're telling posters you have greater knowledge than them, telling them they don't belong...lol get a grip guy
But...this part of your post has some merit. The arrogance is misplaced, unneeded, and Noose is becoming a distraction. Enough, Noose.

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
If you experienced the history of the Nash guy you would actually understand that genuinely being affiliated with a specific company that falls within whatever his latest obsession is is not actually important to him. Don't try to apply normal behavior rules and expectations.
Very well said.
02-23-2018 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sirin
Their FAQ includes a link to a how-to guide which doesn't exist - the link redirects to the home page.
Have a look at the Step 2: https://medium.com/@CoinPoker/how-to...y-da86820118b7
02-23-2018 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by justAnobody
Actually it's you that doesn't belong in this thread. You work for this company, if not you are deeply affiliated with them and you're constant shilling is unbearable. You're telling posters you have greater knowledge than them, telling them they don't belong...lol get a grip guy

I thought site reps had to be verified here and the proper undertitle given?
+100
anything at all negative posted about coin poker this dweeb tells them he knows more then them and to stop posting. He's more detrimental to coin poker than beneficial so doubt he has any affiliation.



the multi accounting, bots, collusion that seems to be happening is worrying mostly because of the fact its so obvious.
there were 500 entrants in tournament id: 496026 which is currently running. Here are 12 of the entrants: treebeard, treebeard1 , treebeard2, treebeard3, treebeard4, treebeard5, treebeard6, treebeard7, treebeard8, treebeard9 , treebeard90 , treebeard1990 If thats going unchecked and its so obvious I hate to think what any competent cheaters are getting away with.
02-23-2018 , 03:26 AM
Wow, theses is only biggest obvious ones in tournament lobbies, plus over 10 more who have 2-3 almost same account name. Talk about anonymous instant deposit/withdraw poker more.





Last edited by krabis; 02-23-2018 at 03:32 AM.
02-23-2018 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sirin
Thanks for the reply. I now have an allcoin account but I don't know how to get my CHP there. I have my allcoin CHP address, but my MetaMask gives me the option to transfer ETH but not CHP.

How do I change this?

Also, would be good if Coin Poker could address these topics.

Their FAQ includes a link to a how-to guide which doesn't exist - the link redirects to the home page.
Here is the guide, many used myetherwallet and you can open your metamask with it, but I see a guide for metamask on this page: https://medium.com/@CoinPoker/how-to...y-da86820118b7

Maybe not the best thread for it, but regardless I think maybe any help you get should be done publicly. Anyways if you get stuck there is enough experience in this forum to help you.
02-23-2018 , 03:50 AM
It's not quite accurate, to say "nash guy". I think it is more accurate to say (alleged) Ideal Poker guy, which was an insight in regard to a poker site business model change that was "proposed" four or so years ago. When I first read coinpoker's whitepaper I didn't understand it properly, and that is a weakness of mine I admit, but the coinpoker rep's were not answering the questions well or timely.

This project embodies the insight I painted and I don't mean to say I inspired it. It has a mechanism now in which it can inflation target. It is comparable to central banking but the token exists on the free(est) market (I call cryptoexchangelandea).

There is a learning curve for poker players new to crypto, and for some there is a fear of the uncertainty and some are finding the curve frustrating. I mean to separate those complaints out because they are not indicative of a scam.

The software is good, and any calling me a shill needs to play on the site and deny the truth of that. The devs are good, they just didn't plan for the support requirements, but thats gotten better.

Terrible communication but I am guessing they have been quite busy. I'd like to chat with the devs but I'm guessing there is no time atm.

I think many sites will arise with this model, and the value of the token will ultimately be deflationary. I just want this site to have a proper chance so long as they seem honest. And as the chp's spread across different exchanges this honesty (or not) will show in the value trend of the token.

So I sound over exuberant, but if this team can pull it off, I am excited, it is quite "neat". The coinpoker rep isn't in here enough and some of these complaints are simply ignorance (and seemingly by people that haven't played on the site).
02-23-2018 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by krabis
Wow, theses is only biggest obvious ones in tournament lobbies, plus over 10 more who have 2-3 almost same account name. Talk about anonymous instant deposit/withdraw poker more.




whats the tourney id?
02-23-2018 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
whats the tourney id?
Recent 2 freerolls
496026 only showing in lobby now, probably will be same with next freerolls
02-23-2018 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
If you experienced the history of the Nash guy you would actually understand that genuinely being affiliated with a specific company that falls within whatever his latest obsession is is not actually important to him. Don't try to apply normal behavior rules and expectations.
This is what I mean when I say my reputation is better than X, whoever I was saying too. I'm not shill and no one that knows me by my "posting style" would agree I am.

I am interested in any project that brings new technology to the table.
02-23-2018 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by krabis
Recent 2 freerolls
496026 only showing in lobby now, probably will be same with next freerolls
ok, assuming the truth of that, and I do see it a little in the tourney number you stated, its a problem ;p As I understand this is Josem's realm. I suggested to him that you could entice players to but up a stake, that coinpoker can confiscate, and that this can get you into better games or better rake back. Depending on the parameters you could make it so a bot would be deterred from putting up a higher stake and so players could have a relationship with the site. These stakes, would also increase the value of the token as the staked tokens would be held of the exchanges.

Edit: I tweeted the pic to Josem, I think I recall (or maybe not) him telling me to do that if we ever need him. I think my idea can fix this and he should get on it asap hopefully!

Last edited by Nooseknot; 02-23-2018 at 04:18 AM.
02-23-2018 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
ok, assuming the truth of that, and I do see it a little in the tourney number you stated
What counts lot?

02-23-2018 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
Edit: I tweeted the pic to Josem, I think I recall (or maybe not) him telling me to do that if we ever need him. I think my idea can fix this and he should get on it asap hopefully!
I would think there should not be this obvious security flaws for any poker room running for real money (or monopoly money people pay money to get into room) and should have been fixed in some way before opening/during first months.
I mean poker room is running for months and they have not seen it as important enough issue to fix. It can tell lot about their priorities.
12 same usernames in tournament is just joke at this point.

Last edited by krabis; 02-23-2018 at 04:31 AM.
02-23-2018 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by krabis
What counts lot?
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Originally Posted by krabis
I would think there should not be this obvious security flaws for any poker room running for real money (or monopoly money people pay money to get into room) and should have been fixed in some way before opening/during first months.
I mean poker room is running for months and they have seen it as important enough issue to fix.
Ok I see those names now, it needs attention. It's not the best execution but from a dev perspective you don't know if you can have built a secure and scalable software until you invite public players, and so the next step is this kind of security, and the token model gives a unique strategy option for the site and for honest players.

This is Josem remember:

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SUMMARY
CoinPoker recognises that good and reasonable people may have different views on the different options outlined here. That’s why CoinPoker wants to benefit from the decentralised opinions of different members of the community — so that CoinPoker can build an environment where online poker is fun, safe and competitive.

As part of that commitment to listening to the decentralised opinions of the CoinPoker community, CoinPoker is listening to you — so please do share your opinions by contacting us on Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, or simply writing down below in the comments.
https://medium.com/@CoinPoker/consul...s-cd7742fb530f

edit: I've explained this in the decentralized poker thread but its also quite relevant and significant in this thread in regard to this project, that we have to consider the effective rake not just the rake %. This means, yes there is multi accounting problem which is seemingly obvious, but the games I think are still quite profitable especially since there is a lot of free rolls. The site is fighting for liquidity and so the question arises, is it ok, if, for the average player or comparable player, the site is equal or more profitable than a site that has no multi accounting bots or collusion etc.

Again the value/price trend of the token will reveal the answer and truth to this question.

Last edited by Nooseknot; 02-23-2018 at 04:39 AM.
02-23-2018 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Nooseknot
Ok I see those names now, it needs attention. It's not the best execution but from a dev perspective you don't know if you can have built a secure and scalable software until you invite public players, and so the next step is this kind of security, and the token model gives a unique strategy option for the site and for honest players.
It not like they just tested with opening to public for short time and then fixed theses obvious security flaws. They have been allowing this take place for months without fix.

      
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