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Old 01-11-2018, 03:43 AM   #301
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

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We are all sorted now.Winnings r transferred. It is fair to mention.
Nope not all sorted. FT of the 200CHP buy in 2 ETH guaranteed that I posted about previously that crashed with 5 left still not paid at all (either ETH or CHP).
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:47 AM   #302
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Nope not all sorted. FT of the 200CHP buy in 2 ETH guaranteed that I posted about previously that crashed with 5 left still not paid at all (either ETH or CHP).
Yeah,I have heard about that.I was talking about my case.I hope they will fix that.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:51 AM   #303
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Yeah,I have heard about that.I was talking about my case.I hope they will fix that.
Yeah good they've paid you, hopefully also a positive sign for the rest of us who haven't been paid yet
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:31 AM   #304
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

This is better:

https://medium.com/@CoinPoker/import...s-9e04ad52e7f8

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Well, we are glad to tell you we finally reached a decision that we feel is the fairest: our ICO will have two stages, and the prices for them will be as follows: 4,200 CHP = 1 ETH for the 1st stage, and 3,500 CHP = 1 ETH for the 2nd stage.

These are the prices that we have stated on our website and Whitepaper ever since the beginning, and the only thing that we changed about it was remove the middle stage.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:18 PM   #305
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

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This is excellent news

Hats off to them for what I'm sure was a tough decision.
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:47 AM   #306
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This is excellent news

Hats off to them for what I'm sure was a tough decision.
Yes and their updates have fixed some important issues. I think there is just a divide between the devs and the parts of their team that are poker knowledgeable. If they keep responding like this, it will be a great project.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:57 PM   #307
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

I was playing a 6max tourney on there last night, down to 9 players and I knock out 2 on my table in one hand. Now our table has 2 players and the other tables has 5. It continued like that for the entire 8 or 9 hands it took to get to the final table. Is table re-balancing not in the software at all for 2 table play?
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:46 PM   #308
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I was playing a 6max tourney on there last night, down to 9 players and I knock out 2 on my table in one hand. Now our table has 2 players and the other tables has 5. It continued like that for the entire 8 or 9 hands it took to get to the final table. Is table re-balancing not in the software at all for 2 table play?
I suggest you report this to the mod of chat.coinpoker.com . He will then forward it to the development team. We have reported other issues also.
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:35 PM   #309
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Hello everyone!
Thanks for your interest in CoinPoker. We are sorry for some delay in answering all requests as the whole team is getting ready for the ICO to start. We will get back to all questions as soon as possible!
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Old 01-17-2018, 07:20 AM   #310
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

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Nope not all sorted. FT of the 200CHP buy in 2 ETH guaranteed that I posted about previously that crashed with 5 left still not paid at all (either ETH or CHP).
Same. Since Tony G promised that all affected players would get payed I mailed support, that was 8 days ago(!!!) and I still haven't heard back. I've PMed the coinpoker rep here, still waiting for a response as well.

Take it for what it's worth but if you consider buying CHP or playing there, know that we still haven't been paid and support is stonewalling us.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:16 AM   #311
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Folks,

CoinPoker is keen to listen to different views on various game issues - what do you think we should do here?

Listening to people
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As CoinPoker seeks to build the games, the software and games can be improved — and CoinPoker wants your help to do this. Many different stakeholders in the online poker community have valuable and wise points-of-view, and CoinPoker wants to benefit from that collective advice. As part of that commitment to listening to the decentralised opinions of the CoinPoker community, CoinPoker is going to seek community input on a number of important game issues in coming weeks and months, before the full launch.

As CoinPoker listens to different point-of-view, it’s important to recognise that across the community, there will likely be a wide divergence of views — views held by people that disagree passionately with each other. On many issues, reasonable people can disagree, and on many issues, there will be good reasons in favour of various options. In that vein, CoinPoker will be grateful to benefit from listening to people who passionately disagree with each other, and will be fortunate to listen to these competing views.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:17 AM   #312
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

The first issue that CoinPoker is keen to listen to people talk about is User ID changes:

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...CoinPoker wants to listen to your views on how players are identified at the table by their User IDs — the names that are displayed, and whether players should be able to change them (and if so, how frequently).

What do you think?
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Old 01-17-2018, 12:11 PM   #313
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

My belief is that this project will also attract a lot of new players from the crypto space who haven't played a poker hand in their lives or are already playing on other rooms just for recreational purposes. (playing recreational poker is a nice way to spent some of your bubble crypto earnings no?)

You should by any means protect them from being "butchered" by pros and/or "pros" who use any poker software during their session.

On the other hand security is a major thing of course, which cannot easily be achieved by a "changing ID's" scheme.

My ideal scenario would be "No changing ID's / ban huds / implement player notes "
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:34 PM   #314
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

My first thought is why someone that was at pains to stress they had no involvement with poker room management and were solely a security consultant when tournament resolution was a concern is now canvassing player opinion on poker room management decisions.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:01 PM   #315
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Coinpoker wanting community input and Josem wanting to discuss something that affects security both seem fine.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:50 PM   #316
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

from a player's perspective, I've always thought that allowing players to change User IDs whenever they wanted (or at least daily) was the best solution.


Some can keep

Some can change.

Let the player decide.

Unless a site wanted to cater to 16 tabling regs with full HH's, why would a site care? Assuming each of a players accounts are linked to a master at operator level, then security can be maintained. Also assuming site is trusted by community.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:43 PM   #317
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

I kinda think the opposite - from a player's perspective, I want to know if the people that I see on the tables whenever I visit are the same people / group of people, or different. There's no way in hell I'd play an anonymous table IRL for serious stakes, would you?

I thought HUDs / Trackers were not going to be supported, but yet there's loads of talk of HH and datamining in these ideas.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:26 AM   #318
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Can you explain why you need your own coin/ICO to run this site? It seems to be an identical model to the sites running purely on bitcoin with the exception of the RNG verification.
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:11 PM   #319
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

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My first thought is why someone that was at pains to stress they had no involvement with poker room management and were solely a security consultant when tournament resolution was a concern is now canvassing player opinion on poker room management decisions.
Think about this. It is exactly what we want and exactly who we want canvassing the players because Josem can perfectly speak our language. And it makes perfect sense that coinpoker should want to be connected with the community wants.

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My belief is that this project will also attract a lot of new players from the crypto space who haven't played a poker hand in their lives or are already playing on other rooms just for recreational purposes. (playing recreational poker is a nice way to spent some of your bubble crypto earnings no?)

You should by any means protect them from being "butchered" by pros and/or "pros" who use any poker software during their session.

On the other hand security is a major thing of course, which cannot easily be achieved by a "changing ID's" scheme.

My ideal scenario would be "No changing ID's / ban huds / implement player notes "
These are terrible ideas and would kill the project. You have to cater to the regulars and pros and let these players grow the network. Huds do not kill the games and its ridiculous to consider banning them or proposing to. The only people that call for banning of huds are those that do not understand them.

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I kinda think the opposite - from a player's perspective, I want to know if the people that I see on the tables whenever I visit are the same people / group of people, or different. There's no way in hell I'd play an anonymous table IRL for serious stakes, would you?

I thought HUDs / Trackers were not going to be supported, but yet there's loads of talk of HH and datamining in these ideas.
You missed the crypto boom then but you will hear stories of pros, like perhaps doug poker who won millions in such games off of different opportunities. It is always necessary to compare the effective rake. If the games are super profitable why would you not want to play, just because you don't know your opponents name?

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Can you explain why you need your own coin/ICO to run this site? It seems to be an identical model to the sites running purely on bitcoin with the exception of the RNG verification.
coinpoker has "chps" which is a finite token that the devs can set immutable controls on. Players need chps to play on the site and so there is a market value based on the demand. This means as a player you effectively hold shares in the company.

It is very different than a bitcoin poker site.
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:19 PM   #320
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Folks,

CoinPoker is keen to listen to different views on various game issues - what do you think we should do here?

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I think eventually you might grow to incorporate different fields with different rules. Players could choose.And I think also you can incentivize players to keep their usernames so that at least some respectable part of the field is recognizable.

I think a "Wild Wild West" promotional field would be quite popular.

Conversely having a single user name can be part of a program to identify distinguished players. So it can be a good thing for the player as well as the site if held in a positive light (ie regs are good not regs are bad)
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

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Huds do not kill the games and its ridiculous to consider banning them or proposing to. The only people that call for banning of huds are those that feel differently than I do.
FYP.

What's ridiculous is to suggest that people who have a different opinion than you must not understand HUDs.
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:55 PM   #322
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FYP.

What's ridiculous is to suggest that people who have a different opinion than you must not understand HUDs.
That wasn't really my suggestion. Huds don't kill the games and for many games, especially tournaments and mttsng's they are nearly useless. It's a misconception that banning huds will improves the quality of the games offered. Recreational players that don't understand the stats involved fear huds and blame huds out of ignorance but that doesn't make it a fight between opinions.
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Old 01-19-2018, 01:49 PM   #323
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coinpoker has "chps" which is a finite token that the devs can set immutable controls on. Players need chps to play on the site and so there is a market value based on the demand. This means as a player you effectively hold shares in the company.
If player funds for this site are both chips and shares of the company, as shares, if the business is successful they should increase in value, either in the form of capital gains(profits are retained and used to develop the business so the chips/token are individually more valuable than before) or as dividends(the company pays back the surplus of profits to the players, as it has no intention to use them for further development).

Could you -or anyone- explain or point out to the material where this process(or the reverse if the business is unsuccessful) is detailed as for how it develops in this company model? Also how can the fluctuations in value of the token be tracked?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:23 PM   #324
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If player funds for this site are both chips and shares of the company, as shares, if the business is successful they should increase in value, either in the form of capital gains(profits are retained and used to develop the business so the chips/token are individually more valuable than before) or as dividends(the company pays back the surplus of profits to the players, as it has no intention to use them for further development).

Could you -or anyone- explain or point out to the material where this process(or the reverse if the business is unsuccessful) is detailed as for how it develops in this company model? Also how can the fluctuations in value of the token be tracked?

Thanks in advance.
Yes and dividends, for example, can come in the form of rakeback. It is all very comparable. If the business doesn't succeed there is no change to he observations, the value of CHPs will decline.

The price of the CHPs will be listed on various crypto-currency exchanges and this will establish a price. This is what is critical to note and why I say this will change everything. All else equal, the value of the token reflects the underlying, otherwise hidden, effective rake. It's a new metric for the players that didn't exist previously.
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:39 PM   #325
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Tried CoinPoker today. The software lacks note taking feature and a 4 color deck. Copy PokerStars features. I enjoyed the Omaha freeroll a lot of fun,promising site.
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