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Old 11-21-2017, 08:44 AM   #151
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Are the tokens a cryptocurrency like others, which will fluctuate in value? Can people withdraw tokens from the site, or other crypto currencies? Is there a fixed value of tokens? How do you ensure, that the site has enough tokens to pay out players?
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:24 PM   #152
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Are the tokens a cryptocurrency like others, which will fluctuate in value? Can people withdraw tokens from the site, or other crypto currencies? Is there a fixed value of tokens? How do you ensure, that the site has enough tokens to pay out players?
Hello thank you for your message,
Yes, our crypto currency CHP are like other and will fluctuate according to the market after we launch our real money crypto currency based Poker room after our ICO expected February 2018. The site will not hold your tokens nor record your payment details, as you will be able to instantly deposit or withdraw from your wallet.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:32 PM   #153
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Hello thank you for your message,
Yes, our crypto currency CHP are like other and will fluctuate according to the market after we launch our real money crypto currency based Poker room after our ICO expected February 2018. The site will not hold your tokens nor record your payment details, as you will be able to instantly deposit or withdraw from your wallet.
You seem to have missed a few posts.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:41 PM   #154
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Hello thank you for your message,
No you will not be able to use Pokertracker or any other tracker or hud with our application. Neither will it be possible to export hand history.
Soooo.. We just have to blindly 'trust' that there will be no bots/collusion? LMAO!
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:25 PM   #155
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You seem to have missed a few posts.
lol. just the most important ones for the players.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:59 PM   #156
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Hi, can i transfer ETH from Quadriga to Spectrocoin?
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Old 11-21-2017, 06:11 PM   #157
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Hey Josem,

I always read your posts about the need for honesty and transparency in poker etc... yet here you are representing a site that won't even state who the owners are.

Are you the owner?
Serious question.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:03 PM   #158
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

You have obviously missed a ton of very important questions and points above, which the community are still waiting to be addressed.

You state:
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The site will not hold your tokens nor record your payment details

But your whitepaper states:
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Please explain
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:24 AM   #159
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

seems like a lot of questions are unanswered here in this thread
for the sake of poker really hope this will not be another ICO scam...
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:42 AM   #160
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seems like a lot of questions are unanswered here in this thread
for the sake of poker really hope this will not be another ICO scam...
Unfortunately yes, I was so excited to partecipate to this ICO, but all the unanswered questions i've seen on this forum makes me think about it twice.
I'm now happy I didn't buy pre-ICO's tokens, i'll prefer then waiting for the ICO while trying to get better informations about this.

It all sounded so interesting since the most expert users on this forum started pointing out some delicate questions.
If the project is so good I can't see why the rep hides some important infos, and ignores many questions.

As an italian user i would be excited to be able to play on an international platform but I have to be honest that I'm very disappointed on discovering that poker trakers will not be usable due to hand history absence. I can't imagine myself trying to grind on cash games without'em given my 'red fish memory'.

Will see what happens from now to ICO starting...
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:40 AM   #161
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

I've basically stopped raggin on this representative because its obvious this project is an attempt to get big investor money and not at all for the players but this video was too much for me not to comment.

Josem both perfectly demonstrates and admits he doesn't know about or understand the technology the project is based on. This is pretty gross since its the crux of the security model and claims. He also talks about problems with bankrolls that are solved and for all I can tell this project does not make use of the technology in a way that would protect players funds.



I could make corrections all day long but one outstanding point, you don't need to download the blockchain to verify funds or transactions.

It's appalling to me. To hear Josem talk about how he's solving all the problems he helped perpetuate previously with poker stars, while simultaneously showing and admitting he doesn't understand the security based technology this project is based on.

Anyways, I could go on...rather, I just want to give my predication based on my insights...I think the developers of this project are effectively scamming Josem and the rest of the poker experienced staff.

Your head of security doesn't understand or know about block chain tech? Dude you are going to get hacked hard based on security exploits your dev team is going to create through incompetence and lying. It's pretty obvious that the grounds are perfectly laid for that situation.

Josem will be left holding the bag, and I think he deserves it for doing this. Think about the position you are in man, you are head of security for security technology you know next to nothing about, what do you think is going to happen?

Your dev team is nefarious its obvious. The whole whitepaper is full of deception.

Poker stars model of lying to the players + blockchain.

Why would you do it like this? Why would you not be transparent and make a proper relationship with the players? You KNOW I could have explained this technology to you. You KNOW it.

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Old 11-23-2017, 07:49 AM   #162
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Nooseknot,

My role as advisor to this project is focused on mitigating the risk of people cheating in the games. That's what I'm working on, not other stuff.

As you highlight above, I recognise that I'm not an expert on blockchain technology. That's why I don't pretend to be.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:59 AM   #163
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My role as advisor to this project is focused on mitigating the risk of people cheating in the games. That's what I'm working on, not other stuff.

As you highlight above, I recognise that I'm not an expert on blockchain technology. That's why I don't pretend to be.
All questions about ownership have been ignored. Do you have a significant stake in the company? Do you know others that have a significant stake in the company?

If you choose not to answer - you're clearly reading every post in this thread - could you explain why all questions about ownership have been ignored?

Honestly seems to me that you're participating in something incredibly dodgy. You guys are taking a shot way outside your skill level so you've hustled your way into a stake. If it works out great, if not you're making sure there's no proof of ownership for investors to take legal action. Maybe the owners are even lying to the staff but you can't claim ignorance in the future - this thread and all the unanswered questions is all the proof anyone needs.
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:01 AM   #164
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That's what I'm working on, not other stuff.
Was almost not gonna post because Imp summed it up nicely in easy to digest prose.

but just to add on.

You I believe have pretty good, universal cred within 2+2.

ICO market is scam ridden. At this point, having at a minimum read this thread, you are connected with them at the hip and should something go badly, there is no plausible deniability for you.

Also I wonder about their intent.

Is their intent to build a great new poker site using Crypto and other new technologies ?

or

Is their intent to build a market for a new crypto, really don't care about online poker all that much, but just decided poker players would be a super easy initial target?

The fact that they have ignored all meaningful questions leads me to believe its the latter. Because if it was the former, they currently have some pretty substantial PR / marketing problems with anyone that lurks this thread (aka their alleged customer base).

A PR / marketing problem they seem to not give 2 chits about.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:45 PM   #165
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Nooseknot,

My role as advisor to this project is focused on mitigating the risk of people cheating in the games. That's what I'm working on, not other stuff.

As you highlight above, I recognise that I'm not an expert on blockchain technology. That's why I don't pretend to be.
I know, that's why I pointed out the giant security flaw in the business model. You are policing cheating in the games and your devs are taking care of the security of the software design. And in the future you will be giving a press conference saying "I didn't know there was a problem, because I know nothing about blockchain." I'm not able to scrutinize your dev team, but they've created a business model based security hole to which you have no security oversight mandated to audit.
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Old 11-23-2017, 03:35 PM   #166
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

So...

a) They claim that they will get a UK licence
b) they claim that US player will be able to play.

a + b is not possible, you will lose any UK license if US players play. If they cant even get this **** correct, how do you think they will spot collusion?

Stay away!
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Old 11-23-2017, 03:44 PM   #167
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

good catch and on point.

With current body of evidence, Coin Poker is at a minimum not being honest with its players.

An online poker site that is OK with not being honest with its players is just aids waiting to happen.

In my professional opinion, based on what I have learned ITT, CoinPoker is aids waiting to happen.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:30 AM   #168
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

Josem had plenty to say in a Stars thread yesterday about account security - interesting that he has nothing to say here when player funds could be at risk.

That video is very interesting and shows Josem for who he really is - "I'm a firm believer that when customers are better informed, they make better decisions." "I think it's important that you as a poker player or potential investor in the... currency [huge pause while he ensures he didn't say "investor in the poker site"] get to see the folks who are advising on this project, and get to have your opportunity to put questions to the team." To his credit he doesn't say they'll answer any of the questions. Classic Josem.
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:47 PM   #169
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As an italian user i would be excited to be able to play on an international platform but I have to be honest that I'm very disappointed on discovering that poker trakers will not be usable due to hand history absence.
Many grey networks are more or less international. No HUD? That would only be a case if there would be no HHs, and as there are, it is even worse till you buy a converter.
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Old 11-26-2017, 03:44 AM   #170
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I would not listen to Nooseknot , he trolls other threads too pretending to know what he is talking about .

I think everyone should give this site a chance instead of listening to "know it alls" in the thread which are usually "know nothings."

He is not the one with millions of dollars involved in a blockchain project.

Haters are gonna hate tho , gl coinpoker
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Old 11-26-2017, 01:51 PM   #171
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I would not listen to Nooseknot , he trolls other threads too pretending to know what he is talking about .

I think everyone should give this site a chance instead of listening to "know it alls" in the thread which are usually "know nothings."

He is not the one with millions of dollars involved in a blockchain project.

Haters are gonna hate tho , gl coinpoker
Looooool
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:47 PM   #172
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Looooool
Fully concur with looooll.

I grew up just north of Chicago. Mt. Ontilt... your post is an embarrassment to yourself and the Chicagoland area as a whole.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:20 PM   #173
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Re: [ANN][ICO] CoinPoker: Poker future is today!

One day not too far in the future, many of us will be laughing at all the chumps who lost money in this scam. That the representative(s) are ignoring the simple question of ownership should be a huge red flag. Anyone who looks past this and invests/deposits anyway deserves to get ripped off.
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:28 PM   #174
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I would not listen to Nooseknot , he trolls other threads too pretending to know what he is talking about .

I think everyone should give this site a chance instead of listening to "know it alls" in the thread which are usually "know nothings."

He is not the one with millions of dollars involved in a blockchain project.

Haters are gonna hate tho , gl coinpoker
Shill post. Did you buy into their Pre-ICO?
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:49 AM   #175
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Many grey networks are more or less international. No HUD? That would only be a case if there would be no HHs, and as there are, it is even worse till you buy a converter.
The rep said that hand history will not be present, but maybe yes with the use of some converters it could be possible...I d'on't fully understand how it will be structured though.
I don't wanna go off-topic but could you do some examples of these networks or maybe post any thread about?
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