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I wonder if we'll see some Bots disappear when 888 remove the downgrade option?

This could be interesting.

This was posted on a popular Botting support forum.

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Originally Posted by Bonus Bots

Yesterday 888 rolled out their new poker client upgrade wide, version 25. This version breaks the bot completely and will result in us dropping support for 888 for an extended period (probably 1-3 months) if it becomes a forced upgrade.

Fortunately, 888 is making available a downgrade to version 24 of their poker client, , which is required for our bot to work:

setupspoker.images4us.com/setups/888poker/EN/p-1-en-4-6.17-0/24/SetupFiles/GIB/FULL/888pokersetup.exe

Here is a link to an explanation from the 888 representative:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index893.html

You should be able to continue to use the bot at 888 as long as version 24 of their poker client remains usable.

888Rep, Lessu, what are your thoughts?

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12-24-2015 , 12:14 AM

#77

jayme87

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,495

I have tried telling 888rep and he is aware but now over a month still active for bots this is disgraceful

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12-24-2015 , 06:47 AM

#78

Kuta

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 298

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Originally Posted by 018125

I wonder if we'll see some Bots disappear when 888 remove the downgrade option?

I guess that would be the only positive effect from the new update, but it's just a temporary thing. As the new client could already be used for 2 or 3 weeks, I am sure they are close to make their crap bots work again before 888s upgrade becomes final.

It really sucks to see them playing every day :/ I've played a lot against dadd*wor*s and Vi*olent lately.

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12-26-2015 , 05:34 PM

#79

018125

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 168

If Kajizragore is a bot he doesn't seem to play like the others.

Pacific, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37202491

Hero (MP): $189.27 (189.3 bb)
kajizragore (CO): $271.84 (271.8 bb)
klqq977 (BTN): $101.48 (101.5 bb)
dojson (SB): $100 (100 bb)
eazyspeaks (BB): $113 (113 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T

:: ::
Hero raises to $3.50, kajizragore calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.37, kajizragore calls $6.37

Turn: ($21.24) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $15.93, kajizragore calls $15.93

River: ($53.10) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $39.82, kajizragore calls $39.82

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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12-27-2015 , 03:40 AM

#80

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Well I looked for similar hands from KOKO and right away found one where he calls down 3/4 pot bets light ish. Probably best we don't analyze these too much on a public forum though, right ?

I took a look at kaji's stats again and I have 150k sample of him and I am 100% sure he is a member of this bot ring.

Pacific, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37202581

UTG+2: $600 (100 bb)
MP1: $2,208.13 (368 bb)
MP2: $600 (100 bb)
MP3: $175.64 (29.3 bb)
CO: $600 (100 bb)
BTN: $461.53 (76.9 bb)
SB: $418.16 (69.7 bb)
BB: $249.43 (41.6 bb)
UTG+1: $1,926.05 (321 bb)

Preflop:
3 folds, MP2 raises to $18, MP3 folds, CO calls $18, 2 folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($57) 6

(3 players)
MP2 bets $34.50, CO calls $34.50, BB folds

Turn: ($126) K

(2 players)
MP2 bets $94.50, CO calls $94.50

River: ($315) K

(2 players)
MP2 bets $236.25, CO calls $236.25

Results: $787.50 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 6

MP2 showed 4

:: :: and won $783.50 ($400.25 net)
CO showed 9

:: :: and lost (-$383.25 net)

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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12-27-2015 , 03:55 AM

#81

018125

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 168

If you say he's a bot I'm sure you're right!

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01-22-2016 , 04:18 PM

#82

CRMartin11

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 250

Quote:

Originally Posted by 018125

If Kajizragore is a bot he doesn't seem to play like the others.

:: ::
Hero raises to $3.50, kajizragore calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.37, kajizragore calls $6.37

Turn: ($21.24) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $15.93, kajizragore calls $15.93

River: ($53.10) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $39.82, kajizragore calls $39.82

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

Robot or not, I wanna play against this guy lol.

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02-16-2016 , 04:02 AM

#83

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Update for those who don't follow the main 888 thread.

Bots are still playing even after multiple reports and thorough analysis explaining why these players aren't humans.

888poker either allowing the bots or incompetent interpreting the data reported to them and the data they get from their systems

Owner of a big bot site on his public forum

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02-16-2016 , 04:23 AM

#84

SootedPowa

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Originally Posted by Lessu

Thanks for all the hard work leesu.

Absolutely shocking how incompetent/corrupt security departments at these sites are. If it costs money for them (which good security protecting players does) then I guess they are not interested.

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03-26-2016 , 12:12 PM

#85

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Update

Viiolent, VSmode, daddyworks, gazugazu and kajizragore are now gone. AnimalFairy should be next.

There are 3 others which I've reported but won't name to not alert them as 888 is now finally addressing the problem.

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03-26-2016 , 12:42 PM

#86

The Imp

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,702

Good to see them taking things seriously at last. Hopefully they continue to improve.

Cheers for all your efforts Lessu, it must have been a test of your patience at times.

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04-19-2016 , 07:00 AM

#87

Zrebna

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,421

good thread and good efforts inside - keep it up!

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04-21-2016 , 04:24 PM

#88

NN11

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 26

So, whats happening? Ive seen a couple of new nicks that are suspicious.

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04-22-2016 , 03:48 AM

#89

Lessu

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

A dozen or so already banned in the past 10 months after first reports. There are at least 6 more that are still active which I've reported 3 weeks ago. There is progress but just very very slow...

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04-22-2016 , 03:56 AM

#90

Dubnjoy000

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Good job Lessu, I, and am sure everyone reading this, really appreciates your hard work. I do not play on scummy/no RB 888 anymore, but bots are worrisome for the whole ecosystem, not just a specific site that is not worthy of your efforts

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04-22-2016 , 05:49 AM

#91

Lessu

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Thank you!

So to provide a proper update, here are the already banned accounts. By banned I mean stopped playing as we can't know what has actually happened. Still waiting for answers to what happens to the money if 888 confiscated any. We all know it hasn't returned to the players.

Closed accounts:

KOKOKKOLO
breakingtheW
kajizragore
gazugazu
Viiolent
daddyworks
VSmode
lostinchips
VneZakona

Still active:

AnimalFairy
EmptyWallett
dare2allin
SaintLama
SmaleePie
peterx3

There are probably more and anyone who knows how to detect one feel free to post here or PM me and I can take a look and add to my report to 888.

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04-22-2016 , 06:12 AM

#92

SootedPowa

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Thanks for all the hard work lessu

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04-23-2016 , 10:16 AM

#93

NN11

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yeah, big kudos for the work

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04-24-2016 , 09:49 AM

#94

Zrebna

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,421

Hey!

I also can/could confirm from some analyzing some suspicions here - I am just not sure if it is really a good idea to do that in a public thread?

still, as already ,mentioned before - great work and keep it up!

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04-24-2016 , 11:29 AM

#95

Stefan1983

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 157

Are u sure about Peterx3? He has stats that make me believe he is not a bot. If so son of a goddam b.

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04-24-2016 , 12:56 PM

#96

Lessu

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Not the clearest case I've had but yes I'm sure.

Won't say more publicly. Feel free to PM to discuss (unless you're one of them

)

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04-26-2016 , 04:27 AM

#97

centebakkie

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,583

Great job Lessu.

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04-26-2016 , 05:20 AM

#98

GONKO85

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Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 72

Are bots more prominent on certain sites. I'm lead to believe stars takes major steps to spot stuff like this....or are all sites the same regarding bot activity?

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04-26-2016 , 10:06 AM

#99

Lessu

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Thank you, all!

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Originally Posted by GONKO85

Are bots more prominent on certain sites. I'm lead to believe stars takes major steps to spot stuff like this....or are all sites the same regarding bot activity?

Even Stars didn't detect this bot before players reported them.

I only know players reporting them on stars, party and 888 so I'm guessing ipoker and microgaming are full of them at the moment unless someone is working on it there.

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04-26-2016 , 01:09 PM

#100

pingeras

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Thank you Lessu

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