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12-05-2020 , 05:48 AM
Hey. So i have just finished writing my email to GG poker, i thought i'd share it here as well, because it can't hurt and raises awareness.

Hey,

I have waited with this email for almost a month to be totally sure that this is not a random incident, but today they have showed truly how obviously they are colliding.

There are a lot of argentine accounts across many stakes in spin and golds. They all reasonably new accounts and behave in a very similar manner, exactly as if it was contorlled by a bot farming group.

What they do, is almost always start their session at the same time, they play totally together throughout of their 5-7 hour non stop 0 break sessions on 9-10 tables. What makes it super obvious that they are for the most part super close to each other, but never compete. Lets take forexample the 4th of december 20$ spin leaderboard.

1 BAR3D 244,680.00 $500.00
2 18cev 200,960.00 $300.00
3 estrambolic 143,680.00 $300.00
4 poItenseven 143,440.00 $200.00
5 Gimme@Money 90,240.00 $200.00

The two Argentine stopped playing at 7:20 (still 100 minutes left from happy hour). They have 1 game difference between them and a major pay jump. The only reason anyone would stop playing and not chase the other person is if they are 100% colluding and sharing the prizes between themselves.

The other HUGE issue i have is that they have somehow managing their registrations and basically table selecting between themselves. What this means is that they never play against each other and divide the remaining player pool between themselves, and always playing vs opponents they are not colluding with! This in turn makes it for every other player in the player pool that they always play at least with one of them at every single table. They are very very rarely at the same table. I have played on 6 tables at least 1000 games against them, and we have had less than 10 games when the cheating duo and i was at the same table. This alone breaches your rules and should be punished by a ban for table selecting.

What is further damning that this is not only the case on this limits. You can observe pairings of Argentine accounts starting to play around the same time after midnight (CET) and helping each other and fully table selecting between themselves. Sometimes one stops a pay gap sooner than the other, sometimes they are just 1 game away from each other. This is in my opinion already damning evidence of their collusion, but if they are bots i highly suspect if you have looked at their stats you would find that they have almost the exact same stats across the board, specially if you compare the pairs in the different buy in levels.

You can check back any date in the past few weeks to see the exact same thing across 1$ 3$ 5$ 10$ and 20$ buy ins.

On 10$ its always these two guys (it was poItenseven before but he moved up, so another joined from nowhere the 10$ spins, and poItenseven got a new companion for his 20$ adventures)
This is dec 2:
2 HistoryMichael 97,720.00 $200.00
3 M4ndMs 97,520.00 $200.00
4 1DEMAYO 87,480.00 $200.00

You can observe the same on 5$
Dec 3:
1 BelgranoCordoba 44,490.00 $150.00
2 castoraket 37,580.00 $100.00
3 Cantbet 31,920.00 $100.00

This is 3$
Dec 4
1 PartyHard001 24,942.00 $100.00
2 aleGarelliPro 22,512.00 $75.00
3 Bankman 20,688.00 $75.00

This is 1$
Literally any day:
1 OT_RedBaroness 8,524.00 $60.00
2 pasoApaso 6,476.00 $45.00

I think this is absolutely disgusting and totally transparent that there is a group or individual that is 100% farming the majority of the limits on your spin tables and they are so blatant about it.

I seriously urge you to act accordingly to salvage the integrity of your games.

I can only dream of compensation, but i'd be already supper happy if these cheaters were gone!
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12-05-2020 , 07:44 AM
I agree, I've noticed the same pattern as well. However, not as frequent with the Argentinian players, but with the Hungarian. They are usually on top of the leaderboards and frequently avoiding playing against each other. I don't have much fait to GGpoker game investigation yet, but let's see.
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12-05-2020 , 10:07 AM
Yea probably cartell with the right connections
I remember not so long ago a spin and go stable got banned
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12-05-2020 , 01:16 PM
I am hungarian too. I can say that much that they are not splitting tables like the argentines. As far as i can see the hungarians just dont really play at the same time, i dont know how much is that against anything. I try to play when there are the least amount of good players and there are players i might actively try to avoid. But the argentines are on 5 stakes every stakes 2 player starting at the same time, and totally table selecting between them for the whole session.

Also there have been players that flags changed to hungarian, like freidebei. He was german, and when the german restriction happened he turned into hungarian likely with the help of vpn.
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