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12-27-2015 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ihaveatoaster
The reason being it will discourage mass multi-tabling Regs and encourage Recs.

Plenty of really bad players use a HUD. If they wanted to limit multi-tabling they could do so just by setting a lower limit of tables like 888 does. But why on earth would they want to limit how much rake they get.
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12-27-2015 , 07:26 AM


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12-27-2015 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FishWithBacon
If they wanted to limit multi-tabling they could do so just by setting a lower limit of tables like 888 does.
I'm not saying that limiting multi-tabling is good. I meant that discouraging mass multi-tabling Regs grinding rakeback is good. If Rec's want to multi-table that's awesome.

A lot of the high stakes players are trying to rally the Micro/Low stakes players into thinking this is a negative thing. Yes it's negative for those playing high stakes or those who grind rakeback but it's not for the vast majority of Regs. Whether Pokerstars will be more Rec friendly is irrelevant. All that matters is it appears to be more friendly to Recs and offers promotions that attract them.

I would rather Pokerstars put the money into attracting Recs with Gambling games and promotions because these players will trickle into the Zoom player pool. So yes we get less rakeback at the supernova+ levels but we will hopefully see a softer player pool.
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12-28-2015 , 05:57 PM
Ok, I would like some cliffs here. So Pokerstars allows pt4, but not notecaddy, and limites color-coding...
is notecaddy a different word for notetracker?
also, if the hud has different colors for different individual stats, but those colors stay static, is that ok?
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12-28-2015 , 06:42 PM
Just do what bovada does, make player names anonymous.
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12-29-2015 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOOOM!!!!
Ok, I would like some cliffs here. So Pokerstars allows pt4, but not notecaddy, and limites color-coding...
is notecaddy a different word for notetracker?
also, if the hud has different colors for different individual stats, but those colors stay static, is that ok?
No

Yes
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12-29-2015 , 09:32 AM
Who would you rather play against, a good reg using a HUD 30 tabling or a very good reg 8 tabling without HUD but with a lot more focus on each table?
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12-29-2015 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pootietang
Who would you rather play against, a good reg using a HUD 30 tabling or a very good reg 8 tabling without HUD but with a lot more focus on each table?
A fish
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12-29-2015 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pootietang
Who would you rather play against, a good reg using a HUD 30 tabling or a very good reg 8 tabling without HUD but with a lot more focus on each table?
False dichotomy. I'd rather play against the former but it's obviously good for the games if the former turns into the latter.
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12-29-2015 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pootietang
Who would you rather play against, a good reg using a HUD 30 tabling or a very good reg 8 tabling without HUD but with a lot more focus on each table?
I would rather play against a reg 8 tabling because I`ll come across him a lot less and his game is not going to improve to very good just by reducing tables.
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12-29-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOOOM!!!!
Ok, I would like some cliffs here. So Pokerstars allows pt4, but not notecaddy, and limites color-coding...
is notecaddy a different word for notetracker?
also, if the hud has different colors for different individual stats, but those colors stay static, is that ok?
NoteCaddy is not banned on pokerstars. It is specifically listed as allowed on pokerstars' site https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/ "Can you give some examples of acceptable tools and services ?"

Badges and in-game graphs had to go but there are still many features like auto color coding (for game selection), player tagging (badges you set yourself), and custom stats that are approved for Amaya properties.
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01-04-2016 , 03:25 PM
Why on earth am I getting popups from pokerstars when I don't even have auto import turned on?

RIP pokerstars.
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01-19-2016 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
cold as ice

You hit the nail on the head there Kiwi boy.

Colder than a penguins nether regions.
I spose a refund is out of the question huh Table Ninja management!??
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01-19-2016 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by devera
You're hopeless, really. If you make a habit of reading only half of a sentence, get it out of context and then start bashing, there really is no point in me arguing. So I'm done with that, peace!



Now I'm not really sure if you're a NC shill that ended up here following that email they sent or you sincerely lack the ability to comprehend, but I'll make one last (and probably futile) effort.
  • Simple badges - Say a badge that only takes into consideration a single stat, like exploitable to turn cbets. Yes, you could color code the exact same stat to turn red when that threshold is hit and it would turn red just in the way the badge would activate itself or not, depending on villain. Logically, they're the same. Structurally, they're not, since that stat will ALWAYS be there in your hud, contributing to the clutter (be it green, red, brown w/e), while the badge will come and go. And if you think this is a minor difference, try envisioning a complex 40-50 stats HUD, each of which has some color coding. But, for argument's sake, let's say this is a minor difference to you (although it is one thing to try to spot your villain's leaks while eating up 50 colored numbers and it's a totally different one having the leaks pop up and showing you the way). But w/e, let's say they're completely the same. Now how about:
  • Complex badges - these comprise the VAST majority of them, as you can custom build them to insanity. They combine multiple different stats, board texture, action taken, position and whoever the fk knows what. And there, you know in an instant you can stab on the BTN the rivered flush vs your UTG villain after he cbet flop and checked turn, because a shiny lilttle square is telling you he folds at an exploitative frequency when opening in UTG, cbeting flop and then checking all the way, if the river completes a flop flush draw. How in the name of all the fks in the world is that similar to a HUD stat? Please, enlighten me. Yes, you maybe could reach the same conclusion by analyzing 3-4-5 stats of his and so on. Well, DO THAT, ok? Play some freaking poker, don't sh.it your pants with excitement because "look, another situation covered by my smart badges came up, yay!"



So let's not outlaw stealing cars off the street, since there will always be the ones that find ways to do it anyway, "even if not in as convenient form". Not comparing badges to stealing cars (hmmm), just pointing out your (lack of) logic.
As for your last remark... no, my dear fellow poker player, let us all get all the help at the table we could ever invent and turn ourselves into freaking GTO approxa-cybots and then wonder 5 years down the road what the fk happened to our beloved online poker and why did it turn into a freak show in a ghost town.
Super good post sir. I am computer illiterate save posting in forums and playing pokers online but you articulated very well,so well a dill-pot like me could get the general gist. Thanks for that, and no doubt lots of other Two Plussers will agree with my thanks.
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01-20-2016 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FishWithBacon
Notecaddy never provided any type of playing advice, just a nice way to represent data. It is possible to achieve the exact same results using a hud with just numbers. I would find it really strange for someone who actually understood what notecaddy does to think huds are ok, but notcaddy isn't.

Case an point, if you watch some hs RIO videos some use it and some don't. It's really a preference thing. If it was such an advantage everyone at hs would have used it.
Having bagdes pop up for certain situations is almost like giving advice in real time.
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01-20-2016 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by coach999
Having bagdes pop up for certain situations is almost like giving advice in real time.
The badges are always present, just like hud stats.
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01-20-2016 , 04:49 PM
As someone who hasn't been following this thread at all:
1. Is it today allowed to show VPIP in a three-color way? (thus, "classifying" players)?
2. Is it with the latest version of PT4 it possible to use the above?

ty
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01-20-2016 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
The badges are always present, just like hud stats.
they still remove the skill from HUD interpretation. tbh I think colour coding should be banned too, but badges a) encourage datamining and b) involve all the skill of a monkey clicking buttons.
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01-20-2016 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by randomuser1
As someone who hasn't been following this thread at all:
1. Is it today allowed to show VPIP in a three-color way? (thus, "classifying" players)?
2. Is it with the latest version of PT4 it possible to use the above?

ty
yes, if you have any problems configuring it or need clarification on how PT4 addresses the new third party tools rules ask in their stickied thread in the internet poker > software > commercial software forum.
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01-21-2016 , 03:42 AM
It is very bad every time to set the 3betsize. Is there a solution? I think this decisiton is very bad from pokerstars? The customers generate fewer rakes and they lost customer on long time. I want change from pokerstars? Which poker provider has a good traffic on cashgame (with) fast cashgame tables?
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01-21-2016 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerIvey
It is very bad every time to set the 3betsize. Is there a solution? I think this decisiton is very bad from pokerstars? The customers generate fewer rakes and they lost customer on long time. I want change from pokerstars? Which poker provider has a good traffic on cashgame (with) fast cashgame tables?
PokerStars gives the user the ability to set up hotkeys within their software where you could set up a % of pot or 3bet in bb size hotkey. You could also just add it as one of your bet size buttons shown on the table.
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01-27-2016 , 03:38 PM
Online poker is on the decline.The average Joe,having tried playing some online has got tired of the inability to foot it with players who have the software available.It is just too brutal a game for the average player to persist with.One can study plenty and still keep getting his aerosole kicked, and this alone is enough to deter most, IMO online poker will be really small in a couple of years as only stubborn masochistic folks will keep banging their heads trying to beat the game.Most people, if they dont taste success at their endeavour within a certain time frame,they give the endeavour/hobby/interest a big miss, and find something less challenging, and with some reward signalling the progress one has made at the particular thing, but pokers is such a cruel beast online that one does not get many progress cues,rendering it in the very hard basket, and easy to give the game a miss as a consequence.
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01-27-2016 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vas Deferens
Online poker is on the decline.The average Joe,having tried playing some online has got tired of the inability to foot it with players who have the software available.It is just too brutal a game for the average player to persist with.One can study plenty and still keep getting his aerosole kicked, and this alone is enough to deter most, IMO online poker will be really small in a couple of years as only stubborn masochistic folks will keep banging their heads trying to beat the game.Most people, if they dont taste success at their endeavour within a certain time frame,they give the endeavour/hobby/interest a big miss, and find something less challenging, and with some reward signalling the progress one has made at the particular thing, but pokers is such a cruel beast online that one does not get many progress cues,rendering it in the very hard basket, and easy to give the game a miss as a consequence.
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with software. The harsh learning curve exists either way.
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01-28-2016 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with software. The harsh learning curve exists either way.
To suggest that 3rd party software doesn't significantly steepen this learning curve is incredibly stupid.
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01-28-2016 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CRMartin11
To suggest that 3rd party software doesn't significantly steepen this learning curve is incredibly stupid.
It's really not, except insofar as you need to develop the skill of using a HUD etc. It doesn't really make the game in itself that much tougher, especially when you're first starting out.
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