I actually almost cried from reading this, and you know why? Because every word truly resonates with me. Very well said indeed.

I would say that this whole concept of rake is less of stars taking and more of players giving. We're giving rake as a tribute to the site and a sign of gratitude. Pokerstars continue to be the market leader and have a dedicated team who work hard to provide us all the opportunity to play the game we love on a site that offers the best software and game selection around. The customer service is excellent; the promotions continue to improve.

By giving them rake, we're supporting the site, just like how you might buy a album to support an artist/band you love. Or like donating to a charity to support people in need. Indeed, Pokerstars themselves have donated generously to charity on multiple occasions, Nepal this year for instance. This opens our eyes to the fact that the Pokerstars staff are not just "money grabbers", but real human beings who care not only about the poker community but also the world.

I think a group of us need to get together and protest against these ungrateful, entitled individuals who act like spoilt children when they don't get what they want. Instead we should all respectfully embrace these changes with a new positive mindset, eager to discover what the new year will bring for the site, the ecosystem and the wider community as a collective whole. Bring it on.

Well, the thing about it is that people don't actually think about what is what, no?
You are playing at a venue, and the entire reason you are able to play is because you agree that they can take a % of a pot up to a point of every hand. That's literally the definition of the rake. In return, they will make sure every bet gets payed, every debt is made. It's pretty ****in simple tbh.

If you can't find the sense in allowing a venue that you know, trust, and allow to make sense of every number floating infront of your face...don't play there. Simple as that.

The thing about it is that there is no reason to "protest" against people that are complaining because they feel so ****ing entitled that they can't see any viewpoint except for "OMFG THIS WAS MAKING ME MONEY, THEY ARE CHANGING THAT I DONT AGREE WITH THAT!!"

Guess what dudes? You are in the vastly huge minority. 98% to 2% is not an exaggeration.
If you think that being in a group that is less than 1000 people on the entire Earth isn't a minority I don't know what to tell you.
If you don't think that making how much money you are going to be missing out on a big deal isn't going to awaken the interest of the other 98 million unique players in the world when you go to boycott your SNE status, I don't know.

Could be that PokerStars engineer'd the whole thing, wouldn't that be a bitch?

This message is hidden because xXPocketDucksXx is on your ignore list.

This message is hidden because verycrooked is on your ignore list.

Had to be done in the end, are there any other accounts of his I should ban?

If he's my other half you should at least let me know.

Have my other personalities been getting a hold of the keyboard and log in information, or what?

I don't know which is worse, the VIP changes or this thread...

Speaking of short memories... do you remember when the Full tilt buyout happened?

Specifically in relation to when Pokerstars was bought up by Amaya (you know...the company everyone is complaining about are ruining what was once a great company..)?

If not, there may be a hint in the fact that Amaya bought PS and FTP in the same deal...

What world does someone have to live in to create at least two alias's and then post and respond to himself.

I assume you mean verycrooked and xxpocketducksxx.

One knows nothing and the other watches too much tv.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle25420761/

The investigation is still running.

Well this thread only took a week to turn to total aidz

i have a personal question, pocketducks, have you ever played on pokerstars? you are probably not affected by the changes at all so its easy for you to speak like a bozz on that case.
Me myself as a platinum player will get hit hard on that 10% decrease, since i grind over 80k+ hands/month on nl 25...
I would really like those players on the US ,who arent affected from these changes AT ALL since they dont play on stars ,to stay out of our business, for real.

Verycrooked definitely moast fun troll i've seenin a long while also nonzero %chance that pocketducks = verycrooked

For teh case verycrooked isnt a troll his IQ prolly ranges in teh low 60s and in general its not cool to be mean/disrespectful to him

damn I had 1.4k worth of amaya stock. Get your **** together, amaya!

Does someone know the answer to this? This seems to be only benefit of platinumstar.

I just thought of something that I haven't read yet.

As Amaya's changes take effect and the poker player pool both moves down in stakes and plays less tables due to HUD and other software banning, they will inadvertently cause a situation where it becomes much easier for players to take their business elsewhere, effectively reducing their monopolistic grip on some of poker's best customers.

Some will argue that Amaya is culling the better players on purpose, if that is true, then it is almost certainly a mistake as these are, I'll say it again because Amaya seems to not realize this, poker's best customers. What they should do is limit the high volume players' ability to siphon money into their own pockets while still retaining them as loyal customers.

It seems to me Amaya is failing miserably at this so far and it speaks volumes as to their ability to integrate multiple verticals into one business model when they are making such obvious (to me) mistakes within one of their core businesses.

Aw thank you
I feel like either way I can't lose, I get a license to get to say whatever I want cuz either i'm trolling or ******ed

That's kind of a relief, isn't it?

Edit:
**** THIS, GUYS!!! 2+2 isn't taking my posts very seriously, let's all band together and boycott 2+2

Don't worry guys, i'm making an avatar that says "Don't Hurt My Feelings 2+2"
we can do it, we just have to coordinate our efforts
edit edit: everything in life requires a balance. I read 80 pages of how PokerStars is killing the game...MY NEWS REQUIRE VIEWS, PEOPLE.

Guys like poketducks love getting berated in tha forums and spanked in bed..by older men

.......

how many seats would you need for a meeting with pocketducks, his shrink, and verycrooked?

Can we pretty please send pocketducks and verycrooked to the pokerstars player meeting, that would be hilarious, and they could go troll pokerstars instead of the players.

Some kind of cash grab sems to be in order.

Ok, but this is just gold. ^^

I think you are misunderstanding, i'd be the shrink for sure.
We can have a meeting about communicating more clearly and how it will help everyone involved.
Seems like a good idea if he feels like he needs help, he seems like he is pretty well balanced in his personal life though so i doubt he will take up the offer.

I have plenty of room in my dirty basement if anyone needs someone to talk to though, guys.
We can work through your feelings of neglect and betrayal over this whole "OMG 33% LESS RAKEBACK NEXT YEAR???? RIP THE DREEEEAAAAMMM OMFG AMAYAAAAA".

I think it will be good for everyone guys.

I have all the seats we need if anyone wants to take me up on my offer.

I'll go by myself, I think it will be much more effective.

Together we stand united, i'll take a list of your complaints and make sure they're read 1 by 1, and any time someone tries to rebut any point i'll just say "you're wrong" in the spirit of this esteemed forum (of course i won't cite any facts or bother to explain what they are wrong about, that's also against the spirit of our beloved 2+2ness).

If you guys can scrape together the cash, i'll be off in a dash.

SNE since 2006.

Im out.

RIP