You real idiot!! Inrenet troll.

http://www.forbes.ru/kompanii/intern...irovogo-onlain

Mods, please move to Fantasy & Role Playing forum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntncu_LfT3g

Rage in Anskys face says it all ....

We need to a face to lead a boycott, revolt, whatever needs to be done to get these changes undone. This is our time players!

Its funny how people including pokerstars act like mass grinders are just bots who only make money off of rakeback when in reality the rake is so high in some of these games they are actually crushing the limit people make it seem like the reward system is just free money when really its not, not at all its just you getting back a percentage of your true win rate. Rakeback is not free money

as customers, only one thing to do : GO ON STRIKE
is there a poker player union?

I hope future rules in 2016 won't be like partypoker especially with hand history...

european market like .fr, .it, .es are dying, and you are going to kill it

How does the player base benefit from acquisitions? It seems to me that any acquisitions Amaya makes limit competition in the industry and choice of what companies players can patronize.

In what ways is Poker Stars going to encourage recreational players to re-activate their accounts or play more, using the additional house cut at the tables? So far all PokerStars has announced are cutbacks to their programs, not additions of value in other areas.

The same video would actually work (in a different way) if the subtitles included all the calls/posts/ideas of poker players organizing a form of a union and working together to make a stand against those evil corporate fatcats. I doubt as many people would get as much satisfaction while waving their torches and pitchforks watching that, but it would be a clever bit of self awareness and self deprecating humor like some of the stuff that was posted around Black Friday.

lol strikes, this isn't france and stars won't gaf if even 1% didn't play which is the absolute maximum you could hope to get

lol union, you're not employees and this isn't the 1970's

if you don't like the changes, leave and play somewhere else, I'd guess 5% of players tops might and the remainder will remain slaves to fpp's starscoins

haters gonna hate
players gonna play.

I'll play.

Seriously, I think you online guys have been rather spoiled. I'd settle to just be able to play from my couch.... #letUSAplay

Change and adapt.

Awesemo - I meant new player acquisitions

Matthew

Ok, the bomb has landed.

So many question...

However, I really, really need answers for these 2 questions first of all:

"All prices in the VIP Store, including tournament tickets and cash rewards, will be updated on January 1 to reflect the StarsCoin value of $0.01."

--> 1. Does this mean that tournament tickets will remain unchange in actual "cost"? For example, will a Sunday Million ticket (13,500 fpps) cost 135 (162?) StarCoins after jan 1st?

"Tournament buy-ins will be updated to StarsCoin values."

--> 2. Do anyone understand?

I remember when I could 20 table the $60 9 mans and have a 5% ROI just a few years ago before stars left the US market. It wasn't that long ago.

There is money out there from recs, enough to support the pros. There always will be. Walk into a casino and look at the hordes of zombies on their slot machines. It will never change.

Poker, online poker will never die. I think we're at a point right now where things are just about as bad as it can get, however.

Once there is a big poker site back up and running in the U.S. we will be back to a status quo. It won't be like 2006, but it definitely won't be like the games are now. Look at the hundreds of millions these fantasy sports sites are sucking out of the avg joe. There's plenty of rec money to go around. Poker just needs to get advertised again. Remember the old partypoker commercials? Good lord those were genius.

Stars might end up dead, but someone will emerge and things will eventually be good again, wether it be Stars getting their **** together, or a new site emerging.

Im curious to know which section of players pay the most rake in total, over a period of say one month.

$0.05/$0.10 and below or $5/$10 and higher?

StarsCoins? **** that! How things changes to makes the noobs understand what they are playing, let them alone investigate and get in to the game, dont change things that are working.

And just... Supernova Elite is the crown of all these online rooms!! how can you remove what everyone desires??

The best thing is that Stars got all this sportsbook and casino stuff and could easily direct some money of it into poker ads/promo, if they really cared about poker, but they don't, so meh.

Way to go really answered all the real questions there, congrats. (wonder if that sounds sarcastic)

We bought Rational, not because they were engaged in gambling, but because we were very much needed 89 million of their customers. I would not call them the players they are - the consumers. "David Baazov



In an interview with Calvin Ayre in mid-2013 Baazov developed this idea:

- Poker is good to have as part of our proposal, but we did not matter how we get the client - in poker, casino or other service. The most important thing - to get it, and then increase the income of each player by reducing the cost of capital.

I have been debating whether to post or not, and following Ansky’s advice I believe it’s something I should do.
Firstly, the disclaimer: I’m a 6-time SNE with 8M+ vpps.
How have I accrued such a big number of vpps? Well, playing SNGs. The last 2 years mostly hypers, both cash and satellites.
Have I made money pre-rakeback? No. Does that matter? No. Because the problem is that the games are raked way too high, no one can beat them pre-rakeback. And that’s where rakeback comes into the equation making the EFFECTIVE RAKE, which is the one that matters, lower. And therefore making the games beatable.
I can only speak of what I know best SNGs, but something similar to this may happen to other formats:
If rake stays the same in HS hypers, where the average reg WR is -0.5% and you take away SNE, most likely thing to happen is that games will die out over the not too distant future: as the average reg will go from winning 70k post-rakeback to breaking even post-rakeback.
Now I understand that it’s unfair for the best players to be actually the ones able to beat the games because they have SNE, while the others don’t. Along with the fact that deposits are slowing down, I am absolutely IN FAVOUR of remodeling the VIP system, but it needs to be done ALONGSIDE a rake reduction of some sort! (maybe also some “loseback” to recs or whatever)
I don’t want to dwell too much on the timing of the change. I think that has been covered already, they have absolutely no excuse to have brought the information forward in November, and ONLY because it was leaked by some own mistake, when we know that SNE is a 2 year program.
Poker is a game played with people so it gives you the opportunity to be successful if you are better than the rest. And the dream I had when I started playing was to move up and be able to become a professional. That dream comes from watching people play the highest stakes and believing that one day you may get there if you work hard enough on your game. If there are no high stakes, there is no dream.
And now people will say that then all you have to do is play the Spins and win in them. Which as of TODAY is possible, but if all formats of SNGs are dead, does anybody think that a 3-max hyper with no table selection and 5%+ rake is beatable when the SNG regs move down to Spins?
So poker as we know it would change into a different thing, one where the dream is to bink a 1M Spin and Go.
Now, maybe poker is dead and that’s just how it goes, but the real thing here is that Pokerstars was acquired by AMAYA who paid 5Bn. This company had no means to buy the company, but managed to incur in a gigantic debt that they now have to pay back. This means they are paying around 180M in interest only every year and paying back 500M/yr of the original debt. And this has to continue for the next few years.
So basically where I’m getting at is that even though it’s true that the ecosystem is changing and deposits to play POKER are not coming in as fast, AMAYA is still profiting even after taking out of the poker economy these massive amounts of money. So, having to hear them and their PR talk put the blame on the players that through hard work have managed to, first of all put them in the place they are, and secondly inspired a large number of people to come and play poker is absolutely disgraceful. I don’t know the exact figure that regs are taking from the game, but it pales in comparison with what they are taking.
I was always a huge Pokerstars fan boy, as some people like to say despectively, but we are obviously dealing with a different company altogether. I refuse to call them Stars anymore, they are Amaya and they are in the business of changing poker as we know it into a something different, where the expected money flow is not shared between the best players and the site, but just everything for the site. The word “house-games” sounds familiar?
Sorry for the long post, but for those of us who have devoted so many years to playing a game that we loved, I don’t think staying quiet while they kill it with their decisions is an option.
Cheers,
Javier

I raked in over 100k every year over the past 4 years. gg Stars, cashing da **** out in 2016.

Some of the primary changes include:

The $1M Supernova Quarterly freeroll will be removed.


Why Amaya will remove this tournament, is this tournament hurting the ecosystem ?

I would appreciate an answer for this Matthew, thanks.

+1

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/186...y-alterations/

well there's a biased piece of **** bit of reporting right there, wonder what kind of kickback stars gave him