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SNE not gonna lose 10-20k in profit, more like 50k+. The 200k+ supernovas gonna lose 10-30k profit. Also what makes you think recreational players deserve money more than hard working regulars who play every day for hours, do tons of work off the table, have been studying the game for years etc. and just show so much more dedication and commitment to something than any rec player. As a result the supernova/SNE grinder is much better player and thus deservers nothing but his fair share of the money from the weak player who doesnt have any of mentioned qualities / never did anything to improve his game, to become better, to come out on top... you know what I mean? Poker is competition the harder you work, the more hours you put in the more success you deserve and until now received that too (up to a certain level i understand variance etc. but you get my point)

In the worst-case scenario.

In reality, all chrome/silver/gold / many platinum get a significant boost, through being able to convert FPP (stars coin) at the standard rate, at any time - without having to wait until a large quantity of FPP at a time when reaching Supernova status that may never be attained or (for tourney players only) play in 235fpp sats for SN exchange rate. For obvious reasons, talk here is of devauling FPPs - for many infrequent or low stakes players they are being up-valued.

+1. This new changes will obv hurt the outliers, but I am positive that the new changes will help bring more liquidity into the poker ecosystem. On the opposite side, this new changes ruined my motivation to play more volume and achieved the SNE dream.

But one thing that I cannot agree with the recent changes is the injustice it served by devaluing the FPPs. Pokerstars has the obligation to honor the obligation based on the value of FPPs at the time it was earned. The impact could be significant if we have to consider benefits for 2016.

So there is a table that describes StarsCoins received at various VIP levels: https://www.pokerstars.eu/assets/pdf...coin-table.pdf.

There is no mention of SN (or SNE). If anyone from Pokerstars actually reads this, could you update it so it is actually useful for people continuing SN or SNE from 2015 to 2016?

Even better: you can spend your money on buying from specialized pokerstars shop in which you could even order groceries with shipping! Why would you need cash, man

Yea this. And that's probably why my calculations got me as better off with the new model as I was earning less than the given star-coin equivalent of 1.2c per FPP.

How will the changes bring more liquidity?

The only benefit I see is that in early 2016 they plan on releasing a "standalone PokerStars branded app that we believe will bring a brand new twist to poker." So an updated app with something like a 4 man spin and go. Nothing to get excited about.

How it will effect me is that I'll join the crew who no longer use pokerstars for the bulk of their volume. Instead bumhunting across a variety of sites (including stars).
I suppose that's what pokerstars are trying to achieve. I'm not sure it benefits anyone though.

SKYFALL

chasing SN/SNE 2016/2017

xXPocketDucksXx is a known ******/attention whore on these forums, check his post history. so pls everyone just ignore/block him, don't feed the troll.

The thing is, this is even annoying for the recreational players like myself. I'm a silverstar that looks to make about 6000-7000 VPPS a year. One of the main reasons that I play extra at the end of a month once I am silverstar is to reach the 750 VPPS or 1k VPPS and get a free $10 or a free $50. Okay thats peanuts but it was still a nice little reward for me and is one of the main reasons why I play so much. I have a full time job and enjoy playing poker in my spare time... but I feel like even us recreational players are losing out from this!

I'm finding it funny how so many mouth breathers are saying this isn't bad. FPP's are reduced. RB is reduced except chrome. It's a money grab.

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I see he continues to prove putting him on ignore list quite some time ago was the right move.
Ur only right move is to NOT respond to his further garbage response posts.

Rip . Bad changes i think ,and no more pokertracker to analyze your game ,looking for other site.

This is just insane and I absolutely hate how they try to spin it like they are helping 98% of the players, just disgusting!

Cliffs: "Starscoins won't feed my children."

FWIW, I think MeleaB's analysis is pretty much spot on, and Ansky's post was great too. But I'm not really shocked or surprised by what's happening. The industry has changed. Sites don't want mass-volume grinders any more, because there is more profit to be gained from depositors (aka losers) and casual players trying to spin it up (literally). The changes suck if you happen to be a high-volume player, or part of "poker's 2%", but that dream is more or less over. Stars is basically saying "FU grinders, go get a proper job", and that's pretty brutal, but poker was never meant to be a 'guaranteed income for life' in the first place. It's a ****ing card game.

nothing has changed regarding PokerTracker.

I'll be honest and admit I've had a few drinks, but I don't think that should significantly hinder the quality of my input as my alcohol tolerance seems to have risen recently. Idk I guess I'll find out in the morning for sure

Look at the screenshot above your post and you have the answer. In case you struggle: VERSION of PT4, what implies there are compliant VERSIONS.

Update your software...

Yes blog said changes would happen to HUDs, but nothing confirmed yet

so when will we be able to know what are gonna be the changes on the "3rd party tools" that were mentioned? A guy earlier reasonably asked if PS is going to ban everything but Jivaro, obv thats just a wild guess atm but it's not that I ll be socked if this goes that way.

I really hope that pokerstars know what they are doing and their models are correct. The grinders have a certain role in the poker ecosystem and this is to provide liquidity to the games. If all the supernovas stop putting in their usual high volume of play then suddenly the SNGs will take more time to fill up, the tournament prize pools will shrink and the cash games tables will be fewer. Depending on how severe this situation will be it may end up driving even recreational players out of the site.

If any of you have played any MMO games you know there were two kind of players: the grinders who were playing long hours finishing up all the game content and the recreational players. Whenever such a game was opening the whole content to be more easily accessible to the recreational players it ended up with the grinders loosing interest and moving to another game, while at the same time the game world started feeling empty and soon after the recreational players were leaving too.

I hope we will not see something similar here.

hahaha right on

Thanks AmayaStars, bye