Been a member here for oh almost 15 years now, used to be quite active under my first user name. Never reported anyone. But, reported this guy at least a half dozen times and he's still here. The issue is one with the mods on this one. I guess he's just levelling you guys?

i'll take your advice on board by increasing my awareness of my posts in this thread, ensuring they are all entirely constructive without being provocative or insulting. I believe for the most part this has been the case, but there have been a few exceptions and I will do my best to minimise these exceptions in the future.

Pocket Ducks is annoying people because he seems to get a kick out of being Amaya's biggest cheerleader. BUT he does oftentimes make valid points, which should afford him greater protection rather than less, if free speech is a concern (within limits).

In contrast, there's little free speech value in coming to the defense of someone who people suspect is trying to defend Amaya by making up facts because they might be a particular person who works for Amaya's PR (bigsalmon, who people tend to accuse a lot of being a 'shill', because people think he's likely an actual shill - was claiming that he was playing on a Sunday afternoon and didn't experience any lag issues, when everybody else who was playing on the same day was experiencing lag issues. Which made it seem like he wasn't likely playing at all, and gave rise to the question of why he might have motive to lie about that and the lag issues).

Free speech and the marketplace of ideas are supposed to be about truth and merit - sometimes people and opinions don't gain traction because they don't seem reliable and/or lack merit.

jmo

STAR COIN QUESTION

the higher the vip level you are the more star coins you earn ?

for example : gold star rakes 10 bucks earns X amount of star coins
does gold star earn the same star coins as if platinum rakes 10 bucks ?

if not could some one tell me the difference between the two thanks

can't seem to see it on the pokerstars website

Here you go .

https://www.pokerstars.com/assets/pd...coin-table.pdf

OMG that seems a bit of a con doesn't it ?

certain steps means you earn more star coins if you can unlock it in time


instead of spreading the star coins out equally on each individual step

you would think every one reaching gold would get the same amount of rake back back but of course not just stars trying to scrape as much of the reward program as they can

very disapointed by stars in the recent months
also where is this on the website ?
tucked away where no one can find it? or I'm just blind and can't see it ?

also thanks HAP!

If you're referring to me, I actually said "those who are annoyed by his posts can either ignore them..." - I'm not annoyed by his posts directed at me, so I'm not ignoring him.

Exactly.

But to those who think mods are completely missing the point - you may be right. I don't think any of us read this thread on a regular basis, so we're missing the context and aren't going to be especially familiar with the issues, so it won't be as obvious to us when someone is trolling. As I said, PD is only one infraction away from a permaban at this point, so if he continues to be a problem, it will be dealt with eventually.

You not being annoyed by his posts only means you haven't read enough of them.

He's actually good at what he does. What he does is completely pointless and a total waste of his, and others time, but if being good at being a pointless dick is his goal, then he is succeeding.

Read casually, he seems like a somewhat naive "but there's another side to this" type of poster. If you look at the full picture though, you see that he has repeatedly been explained things that he keeps pretending to not understand and that he keeps picking new posters to go over the same points that have already been refuted just to get their replies.

He'll typically respond to the "I haven't read this but have a question"-type of posters, where he repeats things he by now knows isn't correct because he knows others will have to jump into to respond to those posts to explain what's actually true to those who ask.

And I have him on ignore. The problem is, he's persistent (and "good") enough that he keeps drawing a ton of replies from other/new posters and so I still have to read his drivel.

Lol, u know all ur complains are just encouraging him right? (I know cos I used to troll feminists all the time) hey look I got this guy so upset he is complaining to the mod

My advise is just to read his comments and laugh, since u know his comments aren't serious why get upset over it

If his comments have merit then let people read them, if his arguments are garbage people will notice (although I do have a problem with him deliberately spreading mis information that could cost people real $)

Banning him does nothing, he is persistent enough to create another account

He has many different alias's on here.

You should thank him for spending time on forum posting instead of improving at poker and withdrawing money from the ecosystem at a faster rate... and not waste time on reading his posts thoroughly yourself - just skimming through them usually gives a rough idea of what he's talking about.

he's probably the biggest attention whore this forum's ever had, not a single person will miss him when banned.. soon i hope.. make the forum readable again instead of having to witness his cringeworthy derails all over the place

It's amazing he can't be banned for being a known banned member (Pokie) that was banned for.............................trolling. He's admitted this many times. He even admitted that he started this PD name to try to stop trolling but

The name he admitted this on was "mottotom27" which is not banned. His Occupation on that profile: "Trolling on 2p2"

wait? PD is pokie???

this **** is too funny, i've known he is mottotom, but i didn't know mottotom= pokie(i thought pokie was doofus krondelly or something? maybe tom=doofus=pokie?)

didn't he have another account, psychiatrist dave or something? lol this is the most dedicated troll I have ever seen xDDDDDD, i actually think he is pretty funny

Im pretty sure PD is not pokie .

Ive not heard that one before.

You guys keep trying to paint the picture that I'm deliberately spreading misinformation about the VIP changes. Well this isn't true, and let me explain why.

One example of how you are wrong is when I made a comment that for lower statuses players who redeemed their fpps for cash bonuses (e.g. a chromestar who buys a $10 bonus for 1000fpps) will have their fpps upvalued when converted to starscoin. Someone was quick to come and say something along the lines of "Hey stop spreading misinformation, fpps used to be worth 1.6c/fpp but now they're converting them at 1.2c/fpp", even though I'd made it clear I was talking specifically about players who bought cash bonuses as opposed to fpp tournament tickets. I tried to explain this to them and they countered "Well anyone who doesn't by the tournament tickets must be stupid, because they have a higher value than the cash game bonuses". Well yes they do have a higher value, but whether or not you think it's "stupid", the reality is a large % of players lower statuses prefer the instant cash bonuses over having to grind out lots of fpp hypers, so the fpp value certainly isn't worth 1.6c/fpp to everyone.

Another example is I'd say something like "first time supernovas still get 28% rb" and someone would quickly step in and say "hey you liar, supernovas used to get a lot more than 28% stop spreading misinformation" even though i made it clear i was only talking about first time SNs and not continuing SNs.

So that's just me making valid, accurate points which is then twisted to make it seem like misinformation to support one's biased opinion against the VIP changes and attempt to reinforce the picture of me as some troll who's just spreading nonsense.

I will note that there has been the odd occasion where I've said something inaccurate by accident, for instance I wasn't initially aware that SNs get their last incomplete VIP step computed at the end of the year rather than month. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time, even Pokerstars Matthew himself once accidentally mixed up the cash game quests with the daily giveaway freerolls. But to say I'm deliberately spreading misinformation is an unfair analysis and just jumping to assumptions.


Now this is an example of someone spreading misinformation, although coming from someone like .Isolated (not his first account, he's had ones in the past which have been banned) this doesn't surprise me too much. I'm not this guy Pokie and pretty sure a mod even verified that there's no way I could be him, so this is completely made up.

Yes, that's correct and I did have a previous account on 2p2 and yes I did used to sort of mess around a bit a while back. People keep using what happened in the past as an excuse to try and discredit my opinions in this thread. But times have changed since then, and part of the reason I made a new account was that I wanted to start again fresh and turn over a new leaf and so recently I have taken the site much more seriously.

I'm sure we're all guilty of doing the odd troll (or joke that's insensitive/in bad taste) here and there, some perhaps guilty than others, but the point I'm trying to make is that over time, people can change, and so can their character. This is why I even recently made my location on this account to "realising my new identity" to reinforce that I'm a changed man and still looking for ways to improve my character even now.

I won't say I'm perfect, but I do think I have been contributing much more constructively and rarely do I "troll" these days. I have contributed many things to the 2p2 community recently that I would describe as being helpful or constructive. I've posted advice in microstakes forums, started my own pgc thread so people can follow my progress up the stakes, answered queries about the VIP changes and asked interesting questions/made points of my own, just to name a few. If you look at the bigger picture of my whole body of posts, you'll see that the positives clearly outweigh the negatives.

In contrast, we have a group of people in this thread (not talking on behalf of everyone here) who contribute nothing and all they do is complain about the VIP changes without adding anything constructive to the discussion. Some just keep saying "F.u. stars" over and over again which does nothing for anybody and is just annoying to read. Why aren't these guys getting criticised or reported? Well it's not hard to work out: you guys are all on the same side that's why, and also explains why it's really hard for anyone with an opposing view to get their thoughts across without being disrespected or not listened to properly.

I sincerely hope the mods will not give in to mass peer pressure and realise the monopoly the higher status players opposing the VIP changes hold over this thread having taken over it.

hi guys,i curious what is diffrence last year 100K vpp and 200K vpp.i guess 100K vpp rightnow %28 rakeback and 200K vpp %30 cap.Can you explain if my aim 140K-150K vpp am i lost some value ?

Last year 100Kvpp 6.000$ without freeroll value rightnow is it 5.000$ ? 200K vpp 13.000$ if you first time sn then 15.000$ but rightnow i guess 10.000$.

ty.

I think that About the Forums is the right subforum to discuss PD's fate. Let's keep this thread on topic.

No, unlike last year, you won't lose too much value if you stop at 135K, 140K or 150K yVPPs. After 100K yVPPs are earned, 29K StarsCoins are awarded for every 5K VPPs (every 5 steps of 1K VPPs)*, except steps 196-200 (from 195K to 200K VPPs) that award as many as 30K StarsCoins in total for those 5K VPPs (haha).

* That's 31.9% rakeback rate ($290 * 5.5 / 5000 = 0.319). The overall 30% value for 200K yVPPs is a result of the first half giving 28% RB and the second half giving 32%.

Beyond the 200K yVPP mark, StarsCoins are awarded at a rate of 27300 per 5 steps of 1K VPPs, which gives a 30.03% rakeback rate ($273 * 5.5 / 5000 = 0.3003).

Back in the days, at Full Tilt, these tickets were awesome.
Any ETA?

But overpriced as opposed to MTT / SnG tickets (at least since 2012).

They need to be sold at the same rate of 100 StarsCoins per $1 if they appear at Stars, or even cheaper, considering that they require a longer playthrough than a tourney ticket.

For them to be sold cheaper it would essentially just be a rakeback increase (decrease in effective rake) for cash game grinders. There are other simpler ways of achieving the same thing, such as increasing the number of VPP/$ raked at the ring game tables. Both cases are unlikely to happen imo

You see, there hardly any tourney players who would refuse to play cash once in a while if doing so would increase their rakeback, and vice versa, because short-term losses in an 'alien' poker variant are negligible in comparison with the amount of cash received for StarsCoins this way. Playing SCs through is a process that is much faster than the accumulation of the same amount of SCs.

E.g. many of us, myself included, used to play 235 FPP satellites just to convert FPPs into cash, even though I'm too bad at 6-man satellites to play them all the time and show a profit.

Likewise, a discount on cash game tickets would be a rakeback increase for everyone, not just for cash game specialists... thus it necessarily needs to be only slight, if any. But it's still worthwhile because it would entice those who log in only occasionally to play longer and get more addicted to poker in general.

Yea that makes more sense now actually, and I'm on board with the idea. It could be a win-win situation for everyone (including the site) if retention rates of players increase as result. Definitely something to consider for Matthew and the rest of the VIP club team.

I'm usually goldstar/platinumstar. I tried getting platinumstar since there was the 2500fpp turbo to sunday million. Now i dont see that 2500 starcoins tourney anymore.


I see that it shows me completing steps when i earn starcoins etc. However, is there really a point of even making platinumstar anymore? Theres no stellar rewards or anything like that. So basically silverstar, goldstar and platinumstar are the same thing now. Its just you get more starcoins with platinumstar?

Its buy-in is 4000 StarsCoins now, it's hyper, deepsrtack, starts on Sundays at 14:27, and it's not limited to Platinumstars.

I don't know why you were chasing Platinumstar for the sake of those satellites - didn't they award ticket for each 13500 FPPs in the prize pool (maybe even 13700, idr), giving the same ~0.016 rate as other FPP satellites and tickets, as their guarantees were consistently met? They weren't as great as VIP satellites to the $1M quarterly freeroll, which did have massive overlays regardless of the field size (awarded an entry worth ~$200 for every 7500 FPPs in the pool for Goldstars 6250 FPPs for Platinumstars, but as such a ticket could be put to use only once a qurter, there was a cap on how much freeroll equity could be earned per quarter and the rakeback % provided by the sats was much higher to Goldstars).