I guess you could play a few TCOOP megapath sats, if you win more than one seat to the next level you get paid in Starscoins. Since you only need to show a profit of a single Starscoin, it shouldn't be hard to achieve. Whether or not you feel it's worth your time is up to you.

I am failing to see how, if u don't play cash games, as a chromestar/ silverstar tourney grinder we are getting even close to the same RB without stellar rewards.

Someone pls enlighten me?..

I see myself making a lot less RB with the current VIP system.

The starscoin multiplier is much higher than fpp multiplier was and this makes up for the absence of stellar rewards, and overall it averages out to about the same rb% for all the lower VIP statuses. This has been mentioned numerous times before in this thread, so in future please try and refrain from asking questions that have already been answered, as right now the only purpose it serves is to clog up space in this thread that could otherwise be used for constructive discussion and feedback.

Thx

^ I got cancer after reading your reply.

I learned awhile ago that it just isnt worth taking the time to respond to him. Its hard to believe he plays poker on a regular basis given that the changes go against most 25nl regs (which he previously claimed to be). Everything the guy says is simply not worth reading or responding to, because its pretty clear he doesnt give two ****s if stars go down the toilet. Btw that amaya stock has been looking great lately. Must be quite a few people in Amaya ****ting their pants atm. Who could blame them?

okay, I got my first poster on my ignore list. You can feel special.

Yes I am a 25nl winning reg, currently goldstar, and I'm loving the new ideas Pokerstars is coming up with as a result of these changes. January has been the best month for promotions for a long, long time. Just because you don't agree with my views doesn't mean you should berate me for it

Cool thanks.

lol just got a paypal payment from Israel Rosenthal himself.

They increased the price of gift certificates on french Pokerstars by alot. Gift certificates are now 9% more expensive than a straight Cash Rebate, makes alot of sense Pokerstars.

I'm a recreational player and so far didn't pay alot of attention to the Vip Reward system but this change is ridiculous.

Thank you for supporting the recreational players on your site.

Yeah I'm not going to scan pages and pages before I ask a question. Your answer simply doesn't suffice and what I have read doesn't tell me much except 'they have more plans'. so why don't you step aside and let the big boys do their job and speak for themselves. I'm pretty sure also that you spend a lot more time clogging threads then I would bother to.

xxpocketducks now has over 100 posts in this tread despite being the most obvious troll I've ever seen on 2+2. Now I see he's accusing another poster of "clogging up" the thread.

How is he not banned yet? Am I the only one who reports his posts?

All i'm doing is assisting in keeping these threads clean and green, which is in the best interest of this thread and everyone posting in it. Why my well-intended effort to help out is being treated with such contempt is beyond me. My only guess is that the SNs are a bit salty at losing their rb, not my fault though.

Is there a reason why anyone would buy tourney tickets on stars as oppose to cashing them out for the 25 and 100 dollar cash rewards? Why would anyone even save up for $100 cash rewards when they can cashout $25 at a time?


I also notice they have those hyper turbos where it cost 367 star coins to enter where it pays 2 players $11 T dollars. Are those a waste of time now due to cashing out the cash bonuses?

Yup.

And I have to say, each time I see a post report and pop in here, it seems to be pretty much the same thing - a post by PD that seems a little trolly, or maybe just borderline, or sometimes I don't even see the issue. Of course I'm not seeing the whole context and/or body of work. But do you know what I else I see? Another half dozen posts (or more) of people responding to him, getting worked up, etc., etc. If he's a troll, why do you guys keep feeding him? It would be a lot more helpful if there was less responding and more reporting.

Yeah, the last post didn't really strike me as a big deal, but this one reads like pretty much pure troll. It appears that your presence is irritating a whole lot of people - time to move on or change things up, especially since you're about one infraction from a permaban.

Bobo, he's a pretty "good" troll insofar as he seems to elude moderators by disguising some posts as genuine. In context, his full body of work shows that he has absolutely no interest in any sensible or meaningful discussion and is deliberately (and successfully) misleading and derailing threads for his own amusement.

Of course, the ignore feature is the best way to deal with someone like that and it's my usual preferred option. But this guy manages to elicit responses in every thread he enters, and the majority don't realise what he's doing, so I've resorted to reporting every post he makes so as to get your* attention.

*I mean the moderators as a group and not you personally.

I admit my last post i kinda lost my cool a bit, it was insulting and a bit unnecessary really so I apologise. But when everyone's having a go at you it can sometimes be difficult to keep it together, and occasionally I will slip out of character.

On the whole though, I feel I have been contributing well to this thread. I've asked several good, relevant questions, answered and clarified a few things people were unsure about, and made a few good points of my own. But I keep getting berated because my view on the VIP club changes is contrary to the majority. In case you haven't noticed, pretty much everyone who supports the changes has been almost immediately dismissed as a troll in this thread (coincidence?), and no thought or care given to the points they attempt to get across. Understandable as I understand and sympathise with what some of you must be going through with your livelihoods on the line as you depend on poker for a living, but sparks are bound to flare nonetheless when a lot of people with strong, contrasting opinions all pack together in one thread to voice them.

I actually don't think it's a case of who's right and who's wrong, it's just the way it is really.

I actually think there's some merit to this - in many threads where a lot of anger is being directed at a poker site, those who take the contrary point of view are far too often shouted down as shills (tempted to add that word to the profanity filter) or trolls.

But that also doesn't give free license to said contrarians to push buttons at every opportunity. Sometimes it's best just to let things go rather than get involved in every argument.

Moving forward, I'm hoping PD can tone things down, and those who are annoyed by his posts can either ignore them or (after taking a step back and ensuring their irritation is well-founded and not just anger at a perspective) report posts they have a problem with.

def agree with this. PD is 100% troll though.

Was wondering why my points never seem to go anywhere !...That's so wrong

+1 he's pretty much BOS in the ssfr forum now.

RIP stars apparently...but I still cant find a good US site to play on. And I dont have DM abilities yet. What must I do?

Mod pops in to explain how ignoring trolls is the best action and then get into a back-and-forth with the troll...

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not a logical one, no

ignorance or stupidity

They're useless for the purpose of converting points to cash, unless you're a micro player with a low points balance and no prospect of completing enough steps to get to a multiple of 1k points. They are essentially rake-free games though, so some people will grind them for profit.