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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,502 34.89%
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Undecided
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07-19-2021 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Robot9999
Monterey, bobo, and mike haven will continue to deny the rig.
Pretty sure I'd have to start denying "the rig" to continue doing it.

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Originally Posted by Robot9999
<and covid >
I, um, wait, what?
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07-19-2021 , 08:36 PM
Online rigging and claiming Covid is a hoax are both conspiracy theories. People who subscribe to conspiracy theories often believe in many of them, not just one or two. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a big overlap between the two groups (after filtering for people capable of having an opinion on both subjects)

I'm not saying no conspiracy theories have merit. Some may turn out to be true. However certain people tend to fall into ones with little to no evidence supporting them, such as online rigging theories or the Covid hoax.
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07-19-2021 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
Online rigging and claiming Covid is a hoax are both conspiracy theories. People who subscribe to conspiracy theories often believe in many of them, not just one or two. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a big overlap between the two groups (after filtering for people capable of having an opinion on both subjects)

I'm not saying no conspiracy theories have merit. Some may turn out to be true. However certain people tend to fall into ones with little to no evidence supporting them, such as online rigging theories or the Covid hoax.
The bolded has been something I've noticed for some time.

The young "Birthers" of 2008 are the middle-aged "Election was Rigged" people in 2021.
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07-19-2021 , 09:36 PM
Oh yeah, no question about that, which is why I thought he might have meant me denying some conspiracy theory. Doesn't make any sense that he would assume I deny Covid. But then, silly me for thinking he needs to make sense.
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07-20-2021 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Oh yeah, no question about that, which is why I thought he might have meant me denying some conspiracy theory. Doesn't make any sense that he would assume I deny Covid. But then, silly me for thinking he needs to make sense.
Since you are an "anti-riggie" (in his mind), he should be profiling you as someone who worships Dr. Fauci and watches MSNBC twelve hours a day.
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07-20-2021 , 01:56 AM
Lol. I made all that stuff up. I will be back in 1year to visit again.
Excellent thread.
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07-20-2021 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Robot9999
Lol. I made all that stuff up.
We know.

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Originally Posted by Robot9999
I will be back in 1year to visit again.
I look forward to it!
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07-20-2021 , 06:30 AM
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People who subscribe to conspiracy theories often believe in many of them, not just one or two.
But do they believe in the "There's no such place as Finland" theory.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/xyd4...d-doesnt-exist
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07-27-2021 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Pretty sure I'd have to start denying "the rig" to continue doing it.
Does that mean you don't deny the rigging?
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07-27-2021 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
Does that mean you don't deny the rigging?
Right, I don't confirm or deny, as I've expressed many times. I don't know either way. Of course I have no reason to believe in rigging on a particular site until I see evidence, which to many riggies is the same thing as denying, or supporting the site. That's the thing about the truly indoctrinated - they only see what they want to see.
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07-27-2021 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Right, I don't confirm or deny, as I've expressed many times. I don't know either way. Of course I have no reason to believe in rigging on a particular site until I see evidence, which to many riggies is the same thing as denying, or supporting the site. That's the thing about the truly indoctrinated - they only see what they want to see.
Many times in this thread I've also identified myself as being agnostic with respect to any site being rigged. Like you, I'll look at any actual evidence with an open mind.

As I've said a gazillion times, any claimed rig that came with solid evidence would find its own thread, and would be taken seriously by the majority of the 2+2 community.
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07-28-2021 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Right, I don't confirm or deny, as I've expressed many times. I don't know either way. Of course I have no reason to believe in rigging on a particular site until I see evidence, which to many riggies is the same thing as denying, or supporting the site.
That's ok. I don't have an issue with that stance.

Likewise, I have no reason to believe these offshore operators are acting in a fair manner, until I see evidence of that. To many shillies, that's the same as thing as claiming the site is rigged.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
That's the thing about the truly indoctrinated - they only see what they want to see.
Indeed.
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07-28-2021 , 09:18 AM
Quit playing poker. Never play again. Other riggies - also quit playing poker. Never play again. Problem solved until you move to another thing you think is rigged at which point - quit doing that as well. Stop being the punchline to the "Doctor, my arm hurts when I do this" routine. 2021 version online poker riggies are kind of the nut low in the riggieverse.

All the best.
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07-28-2021 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Quit playing poker. Never play again. Other riggies - also quit playing poker. Never play again. Problem solved until you move to another thing you think is rigged at which point - quit doing that as well.
dont you think it would be more fair if things were not rigged so that all people could continue taking part in those things instead of expecting riggies quitting them?
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07-28-2021 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
The bolded has been something I've noticed for some time.

The young "Birthers" of 2008 are the middle-aged "Election was Rigged" people in 2021.
And in the mid-1990's, these folks were peddling the video The Clinton Chronicles.
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07-28-2021 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by slowtroll
dont you think it would be more fair if things were not rigged so that all people could continue taking part in those things instead of expecting riggies quitting them?
Complex Question Fallacy. DUCY?
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07-28-2021 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Complex Question Fallacy. DUCY?
im sorry if the question was too complex for you, but i wasnt asking you anyway!
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07-28-2021 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
You misunderstand. It's your pedantic responses that are boring.



Anyhow, let's get back to paid shillie affiliates, poker site trustworthiness and the money trail. Now that is interesting.
That's a good idea. You won't be able to understand since you're as dumb as a box of rocks, but....


Like anyone involved in a business, bring a faulty product and get zero business and go bust. I have deals with coaches/training sites as an example. To take a deal with one of them, I ask the very high end skilled players their thoughts. Sometimes send them the material to see if it is viable and worthwhile for up and coming players to pay for the content. If they comeback with strong recommendations, then I work out a deal. If they say it is weak or bad, pass.

The same goes for setting a new affiliate or agent up with a network. I have to look I to them and determine if they are honest, credible, etc....

You couldn't grasp this because you have the dumb, like TDS for poker. Instead of focusing on the actual issues like botting, collusion, RTA, and things such as that, you fear the bogeyman. The only proof you would accept is impossible.

You're also lazy and incapable of looking things up in your own. When presented with links, you merely brush them off and move the goal posts. No one should ever waste their time with trying to seriously engage with you and others like you. The engagement should be for fun and pointing out the hilarity of your position.

Unlike you, when there is something that I am not at the upper end of understanding, say determining aberrations of expected results based on very large sample sizes, I rely on those far more qualified to provide insight. You would never let anything like that get in your way of whining about the bogeyman. You really should be a politician. They don't know much, declare to be experts, never answer direct questions, and move the goalposts when their stupid gets in the way of the whiny rants.
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07-28-2021 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slowtroll
im sorry if the question was too complex for you, but i wasnt asking you anyway!
Maybe this will help:

https://www.thoughtco.com/complex-qu...allacy-1689890
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07-28-2021 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
thanks for the clarification and applause for the derail!

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07-28-2021 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slowtroll
thanks for the clarification and applause for the derail!

Those emoticommie thingys are too complex for me.

Let me try it anyway:



Wow, that was fun!!!
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07-28-2021 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by slowtroll
dont you think it would be more fair if things were not rigged so that all people could continue taking part in those things instead of expecting riggies quitting them?
Some people need to think the world is rigged against them, so it is not anyone else's problem to coddle to their paranoid delusions when offering their product or service. If the product or service is not something the consumer feels is a good or fair deal then they should not consume the product or service.

If a riggie enjoys whining (as many do) as part of their activity then those might get their value by being able to whine a lot, and fair enough if that is their need. Those that are truly upset at their belief the world is rigged against them in some industry that do not get an alternative form of entertainment (ie: by whining a lot) should quit. That simple. The world will not change to try to satisfy their never satisfied paranoid issues, particularly when they represent pretty much no value as customers.

All the best.
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07-29-2021 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slowtroll
dont you think it would be more fair if things were not rigged so that all people could continue taking part in those things instead of expecting riggies quitting them?
Fallacy aside, how do you know things are rigged?
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07-29-2021 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Fallacy aside, how do you know things are rigged?
How do you know it's not?
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07-29-2021 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by glogga
Fallacy aside, how do you know things are rigged?
looked at them damn things with my eyes
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