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05-05-2024 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Maybe I am just out of my element then.

For those that play on other sites and Bodog - is it really that common for people to cold call so many 3bets/4bets? Maybe that is just how online poker is in 2024 and the game has passed me by. Open to that conclusion.
Yes it has passed you by ... your results are indicators of that lol
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05-05-2024 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
Yes it has passed you by ... your results are indicators of that lol
Point taken. I will stop sharing my observations since its clearly just coming from a salty former pro has let the game pass him by having a career and family.

GL to you at tables grinding.
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05-05-2024 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Here is an example of the cheating that happens all day long at 200NL:

BTN raises to $6, I make $23 from SB, BB makes it $44, BTN call $44.

BB that made it 44 had 109o, BTN had AA.

The entire point is to get me in a 4 bet pot when one of them knows the other has the nuts. There is basically no hand that I can 3bet from SB and not call another $21 there and they know that. They stack me and both accounts instantly leave.
you actually have to fold more vs this line than if BTN had folded actually

kinda like when people thought you had to call wider from bb because someone cold called before you, not the case
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05-05-2024 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Point taken. I will stop sharing my observations since its clearly just coming from a salty former pro has let the game pass him by having a career and family.

GL to you at tables grinding.
Ya it would be great if you rigtards would stop tarding the thread up ...
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05-05-2024 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
you actually have to fold more vs this line than if BTN had folded actually

kinda like when people thought you had to call wider from bb because someone cold called before you, not the case
Appreciate the feedback b/c honestly I did not think of that in game but that does make sense thinking about it now. Maybe it was just a spew in a standard spot.

I will admit I was on full blown monkey tilt today when I made that original post. I dusted off 7 buy-ins in a few hours before coming to my senses and calling it a day.
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05-05-2024 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
Ya it would be great if you rigtards would stop tarding the thread up ...
This is the last post I will respond to from you but if you think people (and bots) aren't colluding on here you are crazy. Was that specific spot evidence of that? I admit probably not.
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05-05-2024 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
Appreciate the feedback b/c honestly I did not think of that in game but that does make sense thinking about it now. Maybe it was just a spew in a standard spot.

I will admit I was on full blown monkey tilt today when I made that original post. I dusted off 7 buy-ins in a few hours before coming to my senses and calling it a day.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLs

sums up the last 2 weeks of posts in this thread ...
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05-05-2024 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
This isn't cheating, it's you spewing lols ... everyone crying ITT is just obv bad and its funny
Are you suggesting there isn't a ton of bots at the tables and collusion taking place? Because I can assure you there is and it can easily be proven with evidence. Imo it's completely warranted for players to be suspicious of spots like that these days. The truth is if you play on this network you're regularly getting cheated, you're often going to be at a table with multiple bots who also blatantly collude.

Whoever manages the poker room has shown no signs of a desire to improve the game integrity issues. If you choose to play here you need to come to terms with that reality and accept that you're getting cheated while playing here without future compensation being likely.

If you can win there despite the cheating and choose to continue playing there then good for you, but the players who have been cheated playing there are right to voice their complaints about the cheating which will act as a warning and hopefully a deterrent to any players who are considering depositing to play there in the future.
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05-05-2024 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Are you suggesting there isn't a ton of bots at the tables and collusion taking place? Because I can assure you there is and it can easily be proven with evidence. Imo it's completely warranted for players to be suspicious of spots like that these days. The truth is if you play on this network you're regularly getting cheated, you're often going to be at a table with multiple bots who also blatantly collude.

Whoever manages the poker room has shown no signs of a desire to improve the game integrity issues. If you choose to play here you need to come to terms with that reality and accept that you're getting cheated while playing here without future compensation being likely.

If you can win there despite the cheating and choose to continue playing there then good for you, but the players who have been cheated playing there are right to voice their complaints about the cheating which will act as a warning and hopefully a deterrent to any players who are considering depositing to play there in the future.
You have been saying this stuff about Bovada for years bc your a shill for another competing site. Your schtick is really old ...
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05-05-2024 , 08:12 PM
Which site, BetOnline? Just FYI I stopped playing there over a year ago when they raised the rake. Not only that, but I called them out about their own botting issues for years until they finally eradicated them. I also called them out on numerous other issues here in the forums the whole time I played there. I've never been an affiliate for them or any other site. I have no allegiances to any site.

Nice try tho. It seems you are in fact the shill for this network if you can't admit to the obvious cheating taking place.
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05-05-2024 , 09:13 PM
And yes, you're correct that I've been saying this stuff about this network for years. The reason for that is the bots that are the problem everybody is aware of now because of how infested the tables are with them now have actually been there for years. Some people here didn't seem to care that much in the past because the games were still softer than most other options.

Over the last year the bots have altered their strategies and started to employ even more blatant collusion tactics. Also the recreational numbers have been declining for a number of reasons which has made the number of bots present more obvious to others.

The potential for serious game integrity issues at this network has been obvious to me for years. I'm honestly shocked it took this long for the games to completely deteriorate. Every shitty commercial bot site has listed this network as the one with the lowest security for a decade.
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05-05-2024 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
And yes, you're correct that I've been saying this stuff about this network for years. The reason for that is the bots that are the problem everybody is aware of now because of how infested the tables are with them now have actually been there for years. Some people here didn't seem to care that much in the past because the games were still softer than most other options.

Over the last year the bots have altered their strategies and started to employ even more blatant collusion tactics. Also the recreational numbers have been declining for a number of reasons which has made the number of bots present more obvious to others.

The potential for serious game integrity issues at this network has been obvious to me for years. I'm honestly shocked it took this long for the games to completely deteriorate. Every shitty commercial bot site has listed this network as the one with the lowest security for a decade.
The games are still very soft, many of the posts in this thread show they always will be ...
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05-05-2024 , 09:39 PM
If this thread tweet from Mobius isn't enough proof for you...

Then here is some more collusion I've come across at the tables in recent months.



(Hero)CO opens. SB 3bets. BB calls. ^

BTN opens. (Hero)SB 3bets. BB cold 4bets. BTN goes all-in. ^

(Hero)UTG opens. MP calls. CO calls. SB calls. BB squeezes. ^

(Hero)CO opens. BTN calls. BB squeezes. CO calls. BTN goes all-in. ^


All these involved accounts exhibiting the typical bot characteristics during their time at the table. None of them were playing like recs. And this is only a small sample of what I've seen from them in recent months.
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05-05-2024 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
The games are still very soft, many of the posts in this thread show they always will be ...
Sure, so then let's just not talk about the blatant cheating going on then because YOU don't care and you think you'll always win here.
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05-05-2024 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
If this thread tweet from Mobius isn't enough proof for you...

Then here is some more collusion I've come across at the tables in recent months.



(Hero)CO opens. SB 3bets. BB calls. ^

BTN opens. (Hero)SB 3bets. BB cold 4bets. BTN goes all-in. ^

(Hero)UTG opens. MP calls. CO calls. SB calls. BB squeezes. ^

(Hero)CO opens. BTN calls. BB squeezes. CO calls. BTN goes all-in. ^


All these involved accounts exhibiting the typical bot characteristics during their time at the table. None of them were playing like recs. And this is only a small sample of what I've seen from them in recent months.
You are so comically clueless. No wonder you think everyone is cheating you don't understand anything about poker ...
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05-05-2024 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
The games are still very soft, many of the posts in this thread show they always will be ...
I can still win too but that doesn't mean there isn't absolutely ****ing rampant collusion going on. I don't play the 500 game anymore and neither do any of the other pros I speak to regularly.

Totally happy for you that you can still win a lot of money but you're a ****ing dingbat if you think there's not significant collusion/botting going on rn across all the sites, and ****in delusional if you don't think Ignition/Bovada aren't of the worst.
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05-05-2024 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
The games are still very soft, many of the posts in this thread show they always will be ...
You're so close to getting it but still so far.

Last edited by pontylad; 05-05-2024 at 10:42 PM. Reason: hint* the bots prevalence increases as you go up stakes.
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05-05-2024 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by inspectorgadget
I can still win too but that doesn't mean there isn't absolutely ****ing rampant collusion going on. I don't play the 500 game anymore and neither do any of the other pros I speak to regularly.

Totally happy for you that you can still win a lot of money but you're a ****ing dingbat if you think there's not significant collusion/botting going on rn across all the sites, and ****in delusional if you don't think Ignition/Bovada aren't of the worst.
If there really is as many bots as you clowns cry about ... then they ****ing suck like you all do <3
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05-05-2024 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sah_24
You are so comically clueless. No wonder you think everyone is cheating you don't understand anything about poker ...
LMAO OK, bro. Feel free to expound on why I'm clueless/don't know anything about poker based on screenshots showing obvious collusion instead of ad hominem insults. If this stuff is all normal to you then you live in some bizarro universe.

Based on your join date I incorrectly assumed you were likely a long-time online reg with an understanding of how normal poker games operate. My mistake. I now understand what level you're operating at.
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05-05-2024 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
LMAO OK, bro. Feel free to expound on why I'm clueless/don't know anything about poker based on screenshots showing obvious collusion instead of ad hominem insults. If this stuff is all normal to you then you live in some bizarro universe.

Based on your join date I incorrectly assumed you were likely a long-time online reg with an understanding of how normal poker games operate. My mistake. I now understand what level you're operating at.
Nah I don't teach bad regs why they are bad ... I will however keep laughing at you clowns
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05-10-2024 , 04:14 PM
Hello, does anyone know if screen recording session is a breach of Global Poker's Terms and Conditions?
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05-10-2024 , 07:01 PM
People stream so I don't see how it could be
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