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12-06-2020 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by silverware
Yeah; of all the criticisms one could lay comparing Bovada/Iggy to WPN rewards is definitely not one. WPN has pretty reasonable rakeback and the beast weekly bonus, while on iggy you grind forever to get a tournament ticket.
I'm only talking about betting on events/sports. Bovada not only has better rewards, they do not hold customer money hostage on officially decided results like WPN currently is. Bovada paid.
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12-07-2020 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
I am currently waiting for BCP to cash out my bets on the election. My main bets are on Biden to win overall and to win MI. WPN will not pay these bets out, saying both candidates must agree on the result. I have not been given an answer as to when they will pay otherwise.

MI has certified it's results, Biden has won by over 140,000 votes.

States with certified results now result in over 270 electoral votes for Biden.

Trump will never concede. There is no reality in which he has a chance to flip MI or to flip the results. WPN will not only not pay out, they will not specify what exactly needs to occur for them to pay out.

I have been a regular on WPN since 2012. I have paid over $25k in rake, I have made over $15k in bets. I have never made a bad deposit, I have never tried to appeal a result. I would like my money, and I would like everyone to know that WPN has repeatedly refused to even identify when they will pay.

Apologies if this is not allowed, or it's been brought up, but it's Xmas time and I'm owed $2500+. I'm stressed the **** out because I budgeted for this money to be paid in a reasonable fashion after I won, not over a month after the result was decided. I'm not trying to be political or make any statements.

All this stuff does not matter, only who is sitting in that chair 01/21/2021.

The twelfth amendment will make each state have one vote if there is any proof of fraud.
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12-07-2020 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
All this stuff does not matter, only who is sitting in that chair 01/21/2021.

The twelfth amendment will make each state have one vote if there is any proof of fraud.
Constitutional crisis scholars in the thread aside, the coup attempt is an unprecedented joke and has no basis in reality. Certified results are official.

Again, Bovada paid out. WPN did not and is refusing to grade bets, refusing to pay. This is an FYI for all bettors. Yes, I'm salty AF about it.
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12-07-2020 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
That is not correct.

For example, if Georgia amd Nevada results are deemed to be faulty, the electoral votes will not be cast. If that happens, no candidate would receive the 270 necessary electoral votes to win the presidency. It would then go to a Contingent Election where each state gets a single vote. Biden only won 22 states Trump is the winner if this happens.

Regardless of the odds of this happening, it is 100% possible that Trump could end up the winner.
What are you talking about? You can give GA and NV to Trump and Biden still easily clears 270
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12-07-2020 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
What are you talking about? You can give GA and NV to Trump and Biden still easily clears 270
Yeah, wrong states as example. Loss ofb37 votes turns it contingent. Ridiculously low chance of it happening. I think even Trump is aware of that and talking about 2024.

My poi t was, it is entirely possible for him to still win, albeit microscopic chance.
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12-07-2020 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
Constitutional crisis scholars in the thread aside, the coup attempt is an unprecedented joke and has no basis in reality. Certified results are official.

Again, Bovada paid out. WPN did not and is refusing to grade bets, refusing to pay. This is an FYI for all bettors. Yes, I'm salty AF about it.
They can win all the electoral colleges right now but none of it matters until it’s voted in, because those electors can still vote for Trump. You make it seem like 2020 is done with surprises or something.

And don’t clown on others when you’re the one that’s coming here and asking questions.

Bovada probably paid you out because they’re Mexican and don’t know crap about how the US elections work.
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12-07-2020 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
They can win all the electoral colleges right now but none of it matters until it’s voted in, because those electors can still vote for Trump. You make it seem like 2020 is done with surprises or something.

And don’t clown on others when you’re the one that’s coming here and asking questions.

Bovada probably paid you out because they’re Mexican and don’t know crap about how the US elections work.
The election is done, that is not in question. Delusion exists, but that is not representative of a chance it isn't over.

Bovada paid because they are a fair place to place bets. WPN is not and will hold your money based on delusion at best.

I am not clowning on anyone, but i'll act in any manner I want at all times and you can have a heaping helping of my ******* for dinner.
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12-07-2020 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
The election is done, that is not in question. Delusion exists, but that is not representative of a chance it isn't over.

Bovada paid because they are a fair place to place bets. WPN is not and will hold your money based on delusion at best.

I am not clowning on anyone, but i'll act in any manner I want at all times and you can have a heaping helping of my ******* for dinner.
You're a moron. They don't cast votes until DEC 14th.

Just so you know, WPN does not run the SB, they outsource to a real sports bookie.
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12-07-2020 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
You're a moron. They don't cast votes until DEC 14th.

Just so you know, WPN does not run the SB, they outsource to a real sports bookie.
Do you need dessert or are you done?
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12-07-2020 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
The election is done, that is not in question. Delusion exists, but that is not representative of a chance it isn't over.



Bovada paid because they are a fair place to place bets. WPN is not and will hold your money based on delusion at best.



I am not clowning on anyone, but i'll act in any manner I want at all times and you can have a heaping helping of my ******* for dinner.
Here, they use fairly simple straight forward words.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2781FS

You should stop being so arrogant and boisterous. You're only advertising how fn ignorant and lost you are on a topic that has tons of proof.
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12-07-2020 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
Bovada probably paid you out because they’re Mexican
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12-07-2020 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Here, they use fairly simple straight forward words.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN2781FS

You should stop being so arrogant and boisterous. You're only advertising how fn ignorant and lost you are on a topic that has tons of proof.
"Tons of proof." :P
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12-07-2020 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMarty
I'm not sure which guy was the guy planning his Christmas/Holidays with money stuck in a sportsbook
Ahhh.. the old I don't know but I like the sound of my own voice enough to say it anyway play. Nice.

I increased my budget because I won and expect to be paid when certified results say I won. ACR is literally saying they won't pay until both sides accept the certified results, which is in no way how elections work, and not the terms of the bet.
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12-07-2020 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
"Tons of proof." :P
Yeah, tons of proof of how the election is not a foregone conclusion.

All good, arguing with clueless people is usually a waste of time. Your lack of comprehension ability pretty much cements your misguided view of the election. Enjoy screaming at them clouds.
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12-07-2020 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Yeah, tons of proof of how the election is not a foregone conclusion.

All good, arguing with clueless people is usually a waste of time. Your lack of comprehension ability pretty much cements your misguided view of the election. Enjoy screaming at them clouds.
I'll give you 10-1 up to 5k that Biden is President on Jan 21st.
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12-07-2020 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Yeah, tons of proof of how the election is not a foregone conclusion.
You mean like how if Nevada and Georgia somehow didn't go to Biden, then he would have less than 270?

Except you forgot to do the math because 306 - 22 = 284 and I'm pretty sure 284 > 270. Though who knows, maybe nowadays it's also debatable whether 284 is actually bigger than 270. Maybe 284 has been less than 270 all along and we just didn't know it. Keep fighting the good fight
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12-07-2020 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
I'll give you 10-1 up to 5k that Biden is President on Jan 21st.
Yeah, but if it looked like all but certain you were somehow going to lose that wager, would you pay out before then?
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12-07-2020 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMarty
Yeah, but if it looked like all but certain you were somehow going to lose that wager, would you pay out before then?
Kansas City Chiefs 50 vs Denver Broncos 15, 3:00 left on the clock, nobody gets paid until the timer goes off, even though we can clearly see.
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12-07-2020 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
You mean like how if Nevada and Georgia somehow didn't go to Biden, then he would have less than 270?

Except you forgot to do the math because 306 - 22 = 284 and I'm pretty sure 284 > 270. Though who knows, maybe nowadays it's also debatable whether 284 is actually bigger than 270. Maybe 284 has been less than 270 all along and we just didn't know it. Keep fighting the good fight
No. Like tons of proof of what could happen that Trump could win. I did not suggest in the slightest it was likely. It is factually correct to say he could win, period. I think the odds are far higher than the ones bookmakers have on it, a mega long shot.
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12-07-2020 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pollce State
I'll give you 10-1 up to 5k that Biden is President on Jan 21st.
What is your point? You don't listen to anything I've said.

I'm saying Trump can still win. I see almost no chance of it. The fact that the odds are astronomically against him does not eliminate he has a chance to still win as outlined in the Constitution.

You seem to think I believe he will win. You are wrong about that. I also believe he doesn't think he will win. Regardless, there is a path that he could win and that is the logical reason sites have not paid the bets off.
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12-07-2020 , 05:22 PM
FWIW, the sportsbook is not tied to WPN whatsoever, it's bookmaker and they contract out to bookmaker for their bets.

I have 7k tied up on the election betting, and i've pressed them a few times on when they'll pay out, whether they'll pay out after electoral votes have been cast etc. They stonewall me every time with the "inauguration day" answer. I've kinda resigned myself to that at this point, but i think there's a small glimmer of hope that they resolve it on the 14th here after electoral votes are cast. If i were a betting man, (which i am), i'd say the odds of paying out before January are not in our favor. Maybe +200.

Talk to the people in the chat help through the sports link, don't ask WPN support they're not going to help answer your questions at all for sport betting related issues.
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12-07-2020 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
What is your point? You don't listen to anything I've said.

I'm saying Trump can still win. I see almost no chance of it. The fact that the odds are astronomically against him does not eliminate he has a chance to still win as outlined in the Constitution.

You seem to think I believe he will win. You are wrong about that. I also believe he doesn't think he will win. Regardless, there is a path that he could win and that is the logical reason sites have not paid the bets off.
I'm not listening to anything you said, you are doing the same pandering to a narcissistic, sweaty orange that anyone else who says CERTIFIED RESULTS are not a win. WPN isn't saying 12th amendment or whatever crackpot horseshit that has zero chance of occuring you're screaming repeatedly. WPN is saying they won't pay until that fat **** concedes. Which he'll never do, in part because of your kind of stupid.
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12-07-2020 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMarty
Yeah, but if it looked like all but certain you were somehow going to lose that wager, would you pay out before then?
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Originally Posted by DonWon
Kansas City Chiefs 50 vs Denver Broncos 15, 3:00 left on the clock, nobody gets paid until the timer goes off, even though we can clearly see.
Do you see how Jan 21st is clearly defined here.. where as "When both sides agree they lost" is b a n a n a s?

If the terms were: Both sides must agree they lost, would you take any bet ever? You dumb mother ****ers.
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12-07-2020 , 06:57 PM
Police State confirms he does not understand how the election process works and then calls everyone else dumb. Solid.
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12-07-2020 , 07:20 PM
Recounts are done in GA and their Republican Gov. and SoS have re-certified the results. You can pay out Biden to win GA (but you won’t)

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