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11-10-2020 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iluvbubees
anyone's pokerstars withdrawal taking longer than normal? mines pending almost 4 days, usually it takes 1-3 days. went to chat with customer support they just said cause its busier now. i dont know though i feel something isnt right
About a minute to skrill / neteller so no problems here.
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11-12-2020 , 04:24 AM
Hi all

I'm a victim advocate based in Ireland. I'm working on a case at the moment of a fraudster called Danny Bolton, but he also uses Danny Byrne and Danny Adams. I've found victims over the last couple of days that he has scammed over €115k out of. I've heard from some poker people that they think he was doing it to fellow poker players too. If you or anybody you know was hit by this guy can you email me at lindahayden@victimsalliance.ie and I can call you to discuss what happened.

Thanks in advance
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11-14-2020 , 04:35 PM
Hello, I have played on Bet365 poker a couple of years ago. A month ago I wanted to give it another go but could not install the app on my PC (windows 10). I asked a couple of friends of mine to try to install it (same city, same internet provider) and they were all successful. All I see when I run the app is this:
https://www.linkpicture.com/q/22_21.png

I've tried different things, disabling ESET, VPN, deleting some registry files and nothing helped. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance

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11-16-2020 , 05:58 AM
due to newer regulations, sites will be forced to cap the amount of tables to 4. we can see it already in pokerstars and gg cash games. i wonder how the poker economy will change when sng / mtt grinders will also be affected? will grinders have to open up 4 clients every session to grind their volume?

i am 12-18 tabling hyper sngs and i am already looking for a new direction. whats your 2 cents?
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11-16-2020 , 06:07 AM
Mtt regs allready have every possible client open. Nothing will change. You can allso play cash with several clients so nothing is changing. And the regulations only affect the regulated markets like Germany with that four table cap. Stars is just making it harder for regs frorcing the table cap. Other sites will not follow. I believe sng player can allso have several clients open have no idea if they run other sites than stars and party though.
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11-21-2020 , 06:08 PM
Been away from poker for a long time and started messing around in some shortdeck on stars. Is the rake seriously over 50bb/100 on NL $5?? Please tell me there is a software bug somewhere in Hand2Note.




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Checked some of the all-ins and they don't cap it at a sensible number, they just take 4%, eg: 40c in a $10 pot. so when there are so many all-ins the number makes sense. I find it absolutely digusting tbh, they're basically saying that nobody has any hope of making a cent at this these stakes, just 'come here for a bit of entertainment, if you're good, you'll last a little longer.' Wtf?

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11-22-2020 , 08:25 AM
Don't know how short deck plays, but if it's the latest in Stars' gimmick hold'em variations designed solely to increase rake then it wouldn't surprise me
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11-22-2020 , 03:17 PM
Does anyone know how to see the cards entirely like on this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5klv...=PokerAmbition
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11-22-2020 , 04:00 PM
You need to buy a 3rd party tool to mod the client and do that.
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11-22-2020 , 11:25 PM
Hi guys, I play under alias SupaPowerz on POKERSTARS, I'm a reg at the CAP tables, you can see me there almost every day, have been playing in PS for many years now! And yesterday morning time some unknown sat at a CAP20 table and we starting playing heads up, after aprox 20 hands I got AA on the button and minraised, he reraised to 18$, I jammed for 20 and he insta folded(not adding the remaining 2) and insta left the table after this hand my account was insta blocked, I wrote to the support asking what is going on, but no answer, then it got reinstated approx 1h later, then I sat at the tables and after one table broke as soon as i left it my acc was again instablocked! During this I received a message in a copy/paste format from stars that they cannot give any more details about how the security system works and any of my further questions or suggestions that there is something wrong with their autodetect were not answered. After approx 1h my account was opened again so I started grinding again and as soon as I left a table same thing happened - account instablocked. And this time it remained blocked since 3PM till I went to sleep in the evening. It was back opened when I woke at 4AM, so I sat at few tables and as soon as one table broke guess what? Same thing, account again blocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What da actual **** is going on? So my buddy suggest I write to PS live chat, he sent me screenshot, when opening help/contact us but I don't even have a window for live chat! Like what da *** is going on, is this a joke?
I have sent them like 5 messages but none of them have been replied!

Has something like this happened to you lately and wtf to do...?

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11-23-2020 , 02:01 AM
Is this the same buddy who chipdumped to u?
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11-23-2020 , 03:17 AM
Trust me I'm doing fine enough without chipdumping!
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11-23-2020 , 10:39 AM
Hey there, I've just recently been trying to play heads up on Party, any stakes from 0.10/0.25 up to 0.50/1.
Problem is, it's really hard. Nearly all players sit out after 2 to 5 hands. What's wrong with these idiots really?
Most importantly, is it possible to do anything, like reporting them, that kind of things?
I cannot imagine it's okay for Party to have all these guys refusing action unless someone shows up totally drunk.

Any help would be appreciated
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11-23-2020 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by supapowerzREAL
Trust me I'm doing fine enough without chipdumping!
ROFL. Just based on your typing solitaire might be too hard for you.

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Originally Posted by Nysis
What's wrong with these idiots really?
They are not idiots they just bumhunt because it makes zero sense to play other than whales and drunks. Play 1000 hands and only winner is the house. Don't know about the hu sitting rules but you could ask party rep in the discord about this.
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11-23-2020 , 12:26 PM
You make it sounds like it's an excuse if you are not capable of beating anyone at your stake...
I think that just means these guys should play nl5 if you are right.
I have checked with Party. It's not allowed and we can report them.
I obviously suggest we all do it

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11-23-2020 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nysis
You make it sounds like it's an excuse if you are not capable of beating anyone at your stake...
It's been like that forever you must be new to hu.
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11-23-2020 , 03:54 PM
Refusing action if someone has literally owned you, is something I can understand.
Refusing action to anyone making just a normal size bet, certainly not.
Your rational doesn't work, given the specifics.
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11-24-2020 , 08:19 AM
Hello everyone, I'm a HU NLH cash player with 12+ years of experience. Today the working limit is 400-1k USD / EUR and I want to share my experience of playing in the next closed "fish" poker room.
Everything in NewGioco is great: the HUD works, the regs in the lobby are weak, there are a few good fishes (which is a rarity in HU NLH $ 500 +). One bad thing is the presence of superusers in cash games, for NL700-1000 EUR.
How, in my opinion, does the exploitation scheme of reg and its further reset to zero: they give you a certain amount of money to win, then the superuser sits down, cuts off your profit and part of the deposit, but without completely reset to zero, giving you the opportunity to win from others or to deposit $$, for subsequent cuts.
There were several superusers with whom I played, the manner of play and stats +- are the same. These are insta decisions on all streets (even on the river in 3bet and 4bet pots), maximum addition from cooler situations, knocking out bluffs on the river, hero calls, frequent bet/bet/bet on sb, frequent call/call/call on bb.
Let me show you with the example of the superuser (OttoSberle), with whom I played the most and lost the most:
He always played short sessions against me (he didn't reset to zero, he won $ 3-8k), but nobody leaves when you have a mega profit from your opponent. He always asked to buy up to 100bb. He wrote a lot in the chat (obviously not needing concentration).
His stats:
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The main thing is wrong with them:
1) fold vs 4bet 14% at normal ~ 50%. He either pushed, knowing in advance that this was a cooler situation or a coin flip, or he called, knowing my cards.
2) flop cbet 92% with normal ~ 50%. He always bet, except for those spots where he could not already win from the flop.
3) fold vs cbet 27% / 43% / 43% 2bet pots and 20% / 36% / 25% 3bet pots. He only folded when there was no chance of winning from the flop or a chance to bluff on the river.
4) donk river 16%. It is practically absent, this move use only top regs NL $ 2k + or the player who sees the cards for thin addition.
5) fold vs probe (turn bet vs missed cbet flop) 29% with turn check / raise only 5%. Knows beforehand what he will do on the river.
6) Float bet turn in 3bet pot (turn bet vs missed cbet flop) 75%. Always knocked out emptiness and weak draws on the turn knowing my cards.

Why am I so sure this playstyle / stats ratio speaks for a superuser? Why can't it just be a lucky up fish / reg? Because I played a huge number of hands and lost dozens of $$ k with the same on PokerMaster and other closed "fish" Chinese applications. This is the classic HU NLH cash superuser ratio.

Here are his results and a graph against me:
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For comparison, my win rate this year, given the $ 30k given to this superuser and 95-99% of playing against regs, is 11bb / 100, not 76bb / 100 (:
My red line (no showdown winnings) is mostly directed downwards near zero, not 30 degrees upwards (:

I complained to the affiliate about this, he passed the complaint to his intermediaries, they should have been sent to the support. It is not known whether it happened or not, but there are no fewer superusers.
For me, the benefits of the room are obvious here: rake mash, deposit burning.
But another thing is interesting, is there a benefit for affiliates other than % from rake, offering us affiliate programs in such rooms? And do they know beforehand that they are sending us to the slaughter?

Topic in russian:
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11-25-2020 , 07:43 PM
I have no mechanism to prove or disprove what you've written there, but this is one of the more credible accusations of superusing I've seen in the last ten years.

I guess that playing on dodgy online poker sites carries this risk.
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12-01-2020 , 08:43 PM
Excuse me, if this post is too offtopic, but since the matter of bots has been brought up here several times, I post this here.

Please explain to me, why is the subject of bots important and why are the bots feared. If a person builds a bot to play for him, that essentially means the person is playing, even though he is not present.
-If I built a bot with one leak (though there would be several), then a professional player would catch up to it, thus my bot would be burning my money while I am out drinking, right?
-If my bot would play vs a recreational player, then that recreational player would lose money, but that recreational player loses money anyways, so who cares?
-If my bot meets another bot, they both would lose money because of rake. So that would incentivize me to actually be present and find the leaks in other people's bots to abuse.

The same points above would apply, if I did not build the bot, but bought the bot.

So please do explain to me, why are people talking about bots and why should I or anyone fear bots? Why is it important that it's actually me clicking buttons, not the bot programmed to click buttons for me?
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12-01-2020 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Io
Excuse me, if this post is too offtopic, but since the matter of bots has been brought up here several times, I post this here.

Please explain to me, why is the subject of bots important and why are the bots feared. If a person builds a bot to play for him, that essentially means the person is playing, even though he is not present.
-If I built a bot with one leak (though there would be several), then a professional player would catch up to it, thus my bot would be burning my money while I am out drinking, right?
-If my bot would play vs a recreational player, then that recreational player would lose money, but that recreational player loses money anyways, so who cares?
-If my bot meets another bot, they both would lose money because of rake. So that would incentivize me to actually be present and find the leaks in other people's bots to abuse.

The same points above would apply, if I did not build the bot, but bought the bot.

So please do explain to me, why are people talking about bots and why should I or anyone fear bots? Why is it important that it's actually me clicking buttons, not the bot programmed to click buttons for me?
lolz


ban this guy
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12-02-2020 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Io
If a person builds a bot to play for him, that essentially means the person is playing, even though he is not present.
No, it means their bot is playing.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Io
-If I built a bot with one leak (though there would be several), then a professional player would catch up to it, thus my bot would be burning my money while I am out drinking, right?
Sure. Not sure what you think that changes. No one's suggesting that bots are perfect or unbeatable; they don't need to be for them to be a problem.

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-If my bot would play vs a recreational player, then that recreational player would lose money
Sure.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Io
but that recreational player loses money anyways, so who cares?
The people who aren't cheating.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Io
-If my bot meets another bot, they both would lose money because of rake. So that would incentivize me to actually be present and find the leaks in other people's bots to abuse.
OK. Who cares?

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The same points above would apply, if I did not build the bot, but bought the bot.
Right, you're cheating either way.

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So please do explain to me, why are people talking about bots and why should I or anyone fear bots? Why is it important that it's actually me clicking buttons, not the bot programmed to click buttons for me?
There are two issues:

1) People want to play other people. Playing your bot rather than you isn't the same thing but without you clicking buttons. Bots can play on any number of tables, bots don't tilt, bots don't tire, bots don't make errors outside of any strategic flaws they've been programmed with.

2) They're bad for the games. The best thing for the games are a variety of skill levels and styles of play. You could actually make the same argument for good solid players being bad for the games, and we've seen sites take steps to favour recreational players over pros in terms of rewards, games offered, etc. But the difference with bots is that, left unchecked, one person on their own could overrun a site with them. And then there's all of the advantages I mentioned in point 1). Plus, bots are going to improve to a point where they're near unbeatable. If you can't see how that would be bad for the games, I don't know what to tell you.
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12-02-2020 , 05:56 AM
Hey guys,

I'm in a pretty bad situation with a big poker room. I created an account in june and deposit around 14.5k with btc, played and took my bankroll until 37k more or less. I cash out 5k in mid-august, everything is fine, and kept on playing.

On august 31th they cancel my account for "inconsistencies" without precising which ones. I try to contact them and 10 days later they ask to have a Skype with me to verify I'm a real person. I was lost in the mountain with a very poor internet connection to I ask to do it like 5 days later, and here begins their complete unprofessional and irrational behaviour :

- on the 12th of September I give several possibilities to organise the Skype, no answer
- on the 22th of September, new mail, no answer
- on the 22th of October, new mail, no answer
- on the 10th of November they FINALLY answer !! My account is definitely closed for inconsistencies I still don't know about them but they're gonna send my 32k back, ok !
- on the 30th of November : "Hello, sorry but we'll actually reimburse just de deposits, send us a BTC address to receive the corresponding 9.5k" : a 22k loss for me !

Do you guys know which levers I have to put pressure on them and get my money back ? I'm getting exhausted about their tardiness and I feel I have no power to make them since everything is so opaque.

Thanks a lot
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12-02-2020 , 08:29 AM
It might help if you start by:

a) telling us which poker room, rather than this shady opaqueness of a "big room"
b) posting actual correspondence you have with them

Once that's done, we can:

a) work out that the site you're playing on has weak regulation (that you are depositing using funny money tips us off to that already)
b) work out why they've actually blocked your account and likely say you're out of luck
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12-02-2020 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
I have no mechanism to prove or disprove what you've written there, but this is one of the more credible accusations of superusing I've seen in the last ten years.

I guess that playing on dodgy online poker sites carries this risk.
Thanks. U are right, but the main idia of my post was: "...is there a benefit for affiliates other than % from rake, offering us affiliate programs in such rooms? And do they know beforehand that they are sending us to the slaughter?"

And I think that they have profit not only from % of rake. Mb they have criminal collusion with such rooms, or their agents.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Io
-If I built a bot with one leak (though there would be several), then a professional player would catch up to it, thus my bot would be burning my money while I am out drinking, right?
No, if it will have only 1 leak- it's very solid game, because humans have a hundreds or thousands small leaks.
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-If my bot meets another bot, they both would lose money because of rake. So that would incentivize me to actually be present and find the leaks in other people's bots to abuse.
No, because bots are very different and have different skill. One bot can exploit another.
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