jfk for president !

August 30th I requested a fast check, paid 50 bucks, got 3000 of the 5000 2 weeks ago, and I have yet to receive the other 2000. They refunded my 50 bucks around sept 14th though.
oh and wtf happened to the september deposit bonuses?

I wish I knew about the Sept bonus, since it is now almost NOVEMBER. I would ask Jeremy since he brought it up, but his last activity on here was SEPTEMBER 11.... I see he really keeps up with the concerns on here of the customers, unless of course they already gave up on people here and have moved on.

Both are somewhat scarcely found these days. If they run they are rarely full.

I believe we ought to revisit the concept of collectively figuring out a given time and a given night for the non-hold 'em games. The games would go if everyone knew to show at the same time. Yes, this makes for horrid game selection, but it makes for good poker.

My screen name on WPX is ninja_bruce. I am a fairly regular player at this site usually playing limit hold'em. I am currently taking a break from playing on the site. I am very concerned about the fact that management doesn't seem to be doing anything about the very obvious and significant bot issue. I have always been a big supporter of this site, but being cheated is not something I am prepared to accept. Maybe I am wrong, and I hope I am, but if I don't see any evidence of something being done about this issue, then I will likely be withdrawing all of my funds. Could Jeremy and/or Fred please say something about this issue.

Jeremy has not logged on here since 9/11 and Fred since 10/10. Don't hold your breath like so many did for a SEPTEMBER deposit bonus...

just an update - got both of my checks, and both have cleared. both took about 16 days. not too bad.


re: bots, i agree completely. I've thought faceslap was a bot for the longest time. uredrum sarkozy monsterba i've always suspected. Add SmooshU to the list.

Now, I've seen all of these players talk, but that doesn't mean anything. It's just the bot owner happening to be at the computer and typing if they are in fact bots.

They all play the same way, the same exact timing, etc. DaRake hit it right on the nose. The fair thing would be for WPX to seize the funds of these accounts and redistribute it to the players who have lost to these persons, of course I don't expect that to happen because WPX seems to not care about the bot situation.

I guess it's just up to the players to play with these bots at our own risk. Fortunately for the majority of players at the site, these bots don't play lower than 10-20 (and very rarely 5-10).

Hey all; so I'm sort of a long time lurker on 2p2 but I feel the need to come out of the shadows and make a post in this thread. I'm a long time regular on wpx and I notice three things about the state of affairs.

1) The lowering of the rakeback cut every few months is a bad sign. When it was lowered to 75%, it was a really big deal. Frankly, for the people who play there a lot, it sucked ass. Then when it was cut to 65%, it incited panic and fear that the site would go under and/or the dream of rakefree poker was slipping away for good. Not to mention the fact that we were told "75% is here to stay" - so customer trust has been compromised as well. I do believe that if rakeback goes any lower, it will spell the end of the site - people will go to sites with more games, better games, and less deposit and cashout issues.

2) That said, I HAVE noticed an improvement in traffic lately. So, whatever Jeremy or whomever is doing with that 10% kickback, I guess it's working. Maybe it's the VIP tournaments. For whatever reason, the games haven't been that bad lately. So, that's good. Hopefully this continues, and WPX isn't eating too big of a cost to sustain status quo (like they said they were with the 75%).

3) The issue of bots. I have seen and played with all of the mentioned players and I do suspect some of them of being bots, i.e. the user is using bot software. There are just too many factors to indicate this to me - and to me, if people were caught playing hands and hands where the other person just kept playing the button in a heads-up match - that is a SURE sign. WPX should investigate this, ban these players, and compensate anyone and everyone who's played and lost money to such bots. It's against the TOS, and if it's not, it should be. To be honest, many of these "bots" suck - especially, like people said, in larger games. But that doesn't matter - people have the right to know whether or not they're playing a human or a non-human, obviously.

Oh, and I haven't had any cashout problems. Courier checks take about 2 weeks, sometimes 3. Can't really expect much better with the current state of online poker. It's not that much slower than the checks I get from pokerstars.

R.e. bots: it's time for wsex to invest in some software changes to catch and flag these players. Captchas are an obvious thing to implement. Seizing funds and redistributing to the players would help too. If all that happens is that bots are kicked off, then they'll be back with a different name, but if they lose their roll, that will make them think twice. Wsex should go ahead and take that action against bots that players have accumulated strong evidence against, i.e. playing sb only for extended periods, which should be easy enough for the site to verify.

I think it's obvious that WSEX doesn't care to spend money for software improvements. Their last major upgrade to a new software version was nothing but a new face to the same software. If they had any intention of implementing serious improvements to their software, surely they would have done it then.

Can someone explain this deposit bonus thing in plain English?

Thanks.

100% Deposit Bonus means !00% up to the amount of the deposit. The effective bonus is another 10% added rakeback up to the amount of the deposit, $1,000 max. I'm trying to figure out the withdraw window.

So, how much do you deposit to maximize the bonus based upon your AVERAGE play? Assuming you receive the standard 65% rakeback before the deposit:

Multiply your average weekly rakeback by 1.538 to get your total average weekly rake paid. Divide your average weekly rake paid by 7 to get your average daily rake paid. Multiply your average daily rake paid by 30 to get your average monthly rake paid (Bonus period). Multiply your average monthly rake paid by 0.10 to see your optimal Deposit Bonus amount.

Here's the cut and paste from the site:


Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but it will be ambitious to try to clear the whole bonus based on current traffic. If I remember correctly, the top rakeback earner of the last few weeks has been in the $1K range, so even he may not clear $500 (if I understand the terms correctly).

I'm glad they finally got a bonus up....albeit horribly late. The 30 days to clear it seems a bit aggressive, but we'll see. I look forward to a couple reports.

Combine this with a quick, reliable, inexpensive cashout method for US players and their might be some serious traffic increase (relatively).

If one makes over 1k in rake per week, how would this not clear it in 30 days? Maybe my math is wrong, but it seems like that would cover the bonus. As far as cashouts, I know they are at times unreliable but as of late I've been getting my checks every 2 weeks, and no problems clearing. From the canadian bank/processor.

So basically this bonus is a temporary way of getting rakeback at 75% where it used to be since you get 10% added the way the bonus is paid. Seems impossible to clear it all with their traffic, especially if you don't play $20/40 limit. If you play 1/2 NL or less good luck clearing it. At least they finally got the bonus up, I just wish it was a little easier to clear and you had more than 30 days to do it.

With 1k in rake you only get back $100, 10% of that. You need to contribute $10,000 in rake to get the full $1000. Good luck with that.

so theres gonna be a new deposit bonus every 30 days? interesting

By my formula, if you have averaged $150 rakeback per week and average the same $150 per week during the bonus period, a $99 deposit will cover the 100% 30 day bonus.

If you exactly meet the $75 weekly VIP weekly rakeback threshold, a $50 deposit will cover you for the next 30 days.

I do think the deposit bonus offer is a very good marketing strategy, especially for "non 2+2ers", just because it is a deposit bonus. A 100% deposit bonus is a definite attention grabber that should attract new players if promoted in the right places Good going WSEX.

Alrigth. Time to move my money out of there.
First 100% RB down to 75%, then down to 65% in order to increase traffic, LOL
Where is that increased traffic???
Traffic is lower than ever as expected.
How the **** am I expected to clear a 10% RB bonus on a site without traffic????

You can always play 20/40 Limit against the bots and clear it!