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09-14-2021 , 04:22 AM
Hello everyone! I played for 3 years on ACR under the name Fat Bottomed Girl. For 2 years I only made deposits and no one had any complaints. I got a good run this year and got an immediate warning in March

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Hello Ilias,

This e-mail serves to inform you that we decided to grant you a 30 days suspension as per our penalties policy: https://www.winningpokernetwork.com/...and-integrity/ due to the following:

You have violated section 4.2.9 of our Security and Game Integrity Policy (https://www.winningpokernetwork.com/...and-integrity/) regarding the usage of seating scripts and subsequent faults related to the abuse of such tools:

"Seating script software which may perform but are not limited to the following functions:

Reserving a seat
Securing a seat
Player nickname targeting
Player labeling
Collecting data on hands in which the user is not actively a participant"

Please also keep in mind the following sections pertaining to unethical behavior and conflict of interest:

"5.3 Bumhunting: The practice of over-targeting a certain player population, or a specific player.

7.4 Non-aggression external agreements: Any agreements between players or groups of players to exploit any element unrelated to hands in play, that might include but not limited to schedule agreements, unstated or implied non-aggression patterns by simply avoiding or denying action."
In August I got a ban with confiscation on the same reasons.


I was sending report to ibas-uk.com, so that's why I am a bit late with post here. Just want you to know that WPN stealing money from players. I Know at least 2 more honest players they got banned and money was confiscated(~50K)

Everyone who played me on midstakes-highstakes can prove that im not using seating script. I will ask some to post msg in this thread.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 09-14-2021 at 04:45 AM. Reason: Changed spoiler to a quote.
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09-14-2021 , 05:28 AM
So you are outing your co-conspirators who violated 7.4? How do these other players prove you didn't use software to bumhunt?
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09-14-2021 , 07:10 AM
OP mad they were caught cheating. Funny how all other winning players aren’t being banned.
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09-14-2021 , 08:21 AM
Sometimes we crossed paths at the tables with Fat Bottomed Girl.
Never seen him avoid regvars or HU games
I'm 100% sure the hero didn't use the auto-landing script. At the same time, there are plenty of scripters at a distance per year +
The confiscation ban is just nonsense
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09-14-2021 , 09:13 AM
I know of 3 other players that had this exact thing happen and people I know vouched for them.
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09-14-2021 , 10:11 AM
https://winningpokernetwork.com/foru...21491a8cd61487

They released a statement a few months ago in their forum due to other players also claimed being wrongfully banned:

Extract:

"Seating Script Use

1. As also outlined within the Security and Game Integrity Policy, we’ve hardened our stance on Seating Script use over the past months. Since the no-tolerance policy was implemented, we’ve issued close to 200 warnings and suspensions to Seating Script users to purge this tool from our site.
2. Recently, we observed a renewed increase in Seating Script usage due to advertising from outside programmers having claimed to have created a “stealth” feature to avoid our detection methods. These attempts to circumvent our detection methods do not work and have only resulted in an uptick of account suspensions.
3. WPN’s Seating Script detection relies on multiple indicators. Once a potential flag is triggered by our tool, each case is then manually reviewed to ensure that there’s no room for error before taking punitive action. It is impossible to be flagged by regular seating or use of a waiting list.
4. When a Seating Script user is identified, we issue a clear and comprehensive warning to the user that their account may be banned if we spot an additional violation. Additionally, we suspend their account until the user acknowledges our Security and Game Integrity Policy and the player commits to adhering to it going forward.
5. It is only on multiple offences after the aforementioned process has been executed, that we proceed to permanently ban an account."
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09-14-2021 , 10:55 AM
OP is well known reg in Russian community. We are rarely at the same table as I play a bit lower but can confirm he is a table starter and does play reg wars
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09-14-2021 , 08:35 PM
always enjoy when these new or dormant accounts come into these threads to defend the OP who usually was caught doing something wrong and is being punished for it
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09-14-2021 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mcc3504
always enjoy when these new or dormant accounts come into these threads to defend the OP who usually was caught doing something wrong and is being punished for it
Especially when the first dormant account's only other posts on our forums are about when he had $15 K confiscated at TigerGaming.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...000-a-1749436/
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09-15-2021 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Especially when the first dormant account's only other posts on our forums are about when he had $15 K confiscated at TigerGaming.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...000-a-1749436/
yeah they seem like legit guys lol
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09-15-2021 , 03:37 AM
Yeah, maybe if the OP didn't want to stop scripting, bumhunting and softplaying/colluding after getting one more warning than he should have, it might have occurred not to leave thirty grand on the site
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09-15-2021 , 04:19 AM
i've played a lot with topic starter on different sites, i dont think he was using some kind of prohibited software or scripts as well, he is playing too much regwars to be scripter. GL in resolving this despute.
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09-15-2021 , 04:26 AM
played with op a few times at 1k chico and stars. was always table starting on those sites so i assume it would be the same for wpn.

also if wpn cared about not bumhunting, maybe they shouldnt have the worst of all time lobby where if u try table start u get grimmed all over the place. the whole site is one great big bumhunting session due to awful lobbies
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09-15-2021 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Villeroi
i've played a lot with topic starter on different sites, i dont think he was using some kind of prohibited software or scripts as well, he is playing too much regwars to be scripter. GL in resolving this despute.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...72/index4.html

Your latest post was in the need4seat thread asking for assistance back in 2017 (Trouble with your script bro?)

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Originally Posted by Villeroi
Hello Need4Seat, i have issues with Chico (BetOnline), programm "eating" tables very good, but when player of interest comes script sitting me but table dont pop up and stay in tray which very annoying and close to unusable. I should manually find this table and release it to the desktop.
Seems that scripters keep trying to scratch each other's back
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09-15-2021 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nick619
OP mad they were caught cheating. Funny how all other winning players aren’t being banned.
I am not cheater. I am playing all sites and starting tables, playing HU, 3max etc. Every midstakes+ player can prove it

When I received the warning I didn’t agree with the freeze. I offered them any way to prove my innocence. But in response, I was simply ignored. I also asked to drop the name of the process that they considered as a script.


I encourage network representatives to review my case again. I am fully ready to cooperate and ready to prove my innocence

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Originally Posted by Pietro3000
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...72/index4.html

Your latest post was in the need4seat thread asking for assistance back in 2017 (Trouble with your script bro?)



Seems that scripters keep trying to scratch each other's back
iin 2017 it was allowed to play with a script in almost all rooms

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Originally Posted by mcc3504
always enjoy when these new or dormant accounts come into these threads to defend the OP who usually was caught doing something wrong and is being punished for it
How are you sure that I broke the rules of the room? ACR did not provide any evidence and my case is not the first. Unfortunately, it has now become fashionable to steal money for no reason.

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Originally Posted by mcc3504
always enjoy when these new or dormant accounts come into these threads to defend the OP who usually was caught doing something wrong and is being punished for it
because these guys do not actively write on the forums because they spend time to make money. facepalm

Last edited by Mike Haven; 09-16-2021 at 08:06 PM. Reason: 4 posts merged
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09-15-2021 , 01:31 PM
I just signed up here to post a comment about this case.
We often crossed paths with Majkdern at the tables, including in other rooms. I never noticed that he used a script or any other methods to get an unfair advantage. I think it's unfair that many scripters have gone unpunished for many years, and honest players suffer.
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09-15-2021 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by majkderN
I encourage network representatives to review my case again. I am fully ready to cooperate and ready to prove my innocence
WPN don't follow this forum, they have their own, you might try there.

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Originally Posted by majkderN
iin 2017 it was allowed to play with a script in almost all rooms
Thanks for the history lesson (sarcasm), the point is that only dormant accounts or other seating scripters seem to coincidentally support you.

Just seems like a coordinated effort IMO.

Last edited by Pietro3000; 09-15-2021 at 03:08 PM.
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09-15-2021 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by majkderN
How are you sure that I broke the rules of the room? ACR did not provide any evidence and my case is not the first. Unfortunately, it has now become fashionable to steal money for no reason.
what makes you think they are going to give you evidence, so you know how to beat them with your next account... this isnt a trial
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09-16-2021 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pietro3000
Just seems like a coordinated effort IMO.
Well, about this, there is zero question - I'm sure even OP wouldn't deny that. That in and of itself doesn't make him guilty of anything, but it also isn't really giving him the credibility boost I expect he's hoping for.
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09-20-2021 , 06:08 AM
for me, an indicator of a player's honesty - he plays at PokerStars or no.
and the reasons why majkderN should have credibility boost - he plays PS, he plays regwars, has reputation in RUcommunity
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09-20-2021 , 08:56 AM
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this isnt a trial
Which is really the problem isn't it? The poker site is both party to and arbiter of the dispute. There really needs to be some unbiased third party that issues like this can be adjudicated by. When you consider the abject lack of professionalism that ACR has shown in the past, I would be terrified to have to rely on their integrity when it came to a dispute involving real money.
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10-10-2021 , 07:17 PM
I had a buddy with a similar situation. Had about 9k on the site and got banned. He’s a straight shooter and I know for a fact he did not and would not collude. The site is ****ed up right now and it’s risky to be playing
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