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Where should I move to play online poker? Where should I move to play online poker?

11-21-2021 , 01:13 PM
Hey, I currently live in the us and want to eventually move somewhere where i can play on Pokerstars/GG/Party etc. I only speak english so i've been looking into where good places to move to would be, I'm deciding between UK, Malta, or Canada. Are these countries segregated pools or are they connected to the global pool? I think I saw that Canada was segregated to just playing against other Canadian players if i'm not mistaken? and UK and Malta are global?
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11-21-2021 , 02:02 PM
Hi, I was in your situation a while ago and being Canadian and during Covid I just ended up staying in Canada.

But I considered Mexico for cheaper expenses. Just I tought I would have a better life quality and security in Canada but probably Mexico would be the optimal choice.
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11-21-2021 , 02:21 PM
Thanks for the reply. Can you only play other people in Canada?
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11-21-2021 , 02:47 PM
I'm not from canada and I have played against canadien players. Tonkaa fe is allso canadien living there and playing against other players so yes you can play in the row pool.
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11-21-2021 , 03:05 PM
Ok. Thanks!
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11-24-2021 , 07:40 AM
Regarding UK I'm not sure how you would get a visa to live there
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11-25-2021 , 08:09 PM
I'd just move to one of the "legalized" states and play on Pokerstars. Segregated pools are a good thing.
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11-27-2021 , 10:46 AM
Hello

I also wonder what countries are good for online poker these days?

Main goal is to be able to play as many sites as possible legally.

Finland
Austria
Mexico
Canada
Eastern european countries?
Baltic countries?
South America? (Which countries?)
Anything in asia?
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11-28-2021 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohhh
Hello

I also wonder what countries are good for online poker these days?

Main goal is to be able to play as many sites as possible legally.

Finland
Austria
Mexico
Canada
Eastern european countries?
Baltic countries?
South America? (Which countries?)
Anything in asia?
With covid restrictions (new variant closing off countries, Austria rather dangerous right now, etc) I would focus on healthiest countries with easy immigration.
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12-02-2021 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
I'd just move to one of the "legalized" states and play on Pokerstars. Segregated pools are a good thing.
Lol they’re really not

So a site with 1,000 players on approx is better than the site with 150,000+ (GG) 😂😂
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12-04-2021 , 05:05 PM
Is using a VPN rather than moving out of the question?
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12-04-2021 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by super_dave31
Lol they’re really not

So a site with 1,000 players on approx is better than the site with 150,000+ (GG) 😂😂
Who cares about the number of players? It's quality that matters and the player pools in newly legal states are garbage compared to international. It's like live poker with multitabling.
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12-04-2021 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohhh
Hello

I also wonder what countries are good for online poker these days?

Main goal is to be able to play as many sites as possible legally.

Finland
Austria
Mexico
Canada
Eastern european countries?
Baltic countries?
South America? (Which countries?)
Anything in asia?
Taking some poorer country runs into problems if one has or needs a work, benefits, pension. Some might run into issues without a steady internet. Eastern Asia has laws against gambling, and in the countries or states/regions where it is legal, it is questionable, if one wants to play on online sites outside the country, and taxes can be there also, and visa issues.

Mexico (as India) is maybe six months per visa but getting more/multivisa doesn't rate to be a big problem (at least coming back should work, as it does in many EU countries for the EU members and possibly for the English language countries. But it doesn't work in every country inside the EU if it is stated that no instant return or so, like is the case in the USA) and living in the USA, it isn't too far to have a second flat there. Can think the same inside the EU or close to it (if online poker is fine there).

Canada is like the UK, I suppose, getting in a with a points system, perhaps. Inside the EU it is all easier and there one can pick either a cheaper place like Romania, Bulgaria that are in the international online pool. Estonia is a step up from that, being like Portugal; the first has their own GG skin and Portugal is more or less with Spain and France only, and not sure if it is illegal to play elsewhere (I think it is in Spain, that has okay live action also). Spain and France also tax poker, and the rake is higher.

Finland is tax-free inside the EU, and the only downside (for a start) is that they will block money transfers to gambling outside the country, and what the implications are is unknown but might get clear in 2023. In the best of the cases, it is like Norway, so can play anywhere, not blocked by the sites and no regulations ever sets in. Not sure if it is legal in Norway, but it is legal in Finland. With the flats, one can also consider buying, fully or partly, e.g. in Finland, one can pay some 15% and maybe get it (I don't know what it takes, but seems cool, and the rent also is then lower as it isn't the rent then, as it is like yours then, and when you leave, you get the 15% back with interests even), and at least one company, Lumo, if you have a bank account here, rents a flat, at this time, though maybe with some higher cost, to anyone without questions if one has a clear record of payments.

Austria is tax-free up to some 10k of incomes, I think, and to avoid the additional self-employment tax, one gets a full private health insurance and one is good if one gets a flat rented (I read it can be difficult in Vienna). Austria has live poker action and the rake is so-so (heard there might a mandatory tip also). Maybe they still smoke inside the casinos in Austria.

Ireland, not sure of the regulations at this time but seems to be open internationally, and the taxes are not high as far as I saw, and even the self-employment taxes are not horrible if one has to pay them at some point; no points system inside the EU (don't know otherwise) and easy as the UK in the past to get in, as long as one gets a flat rented (I read they like recommendations).

With some luck, Scotland gets in the EU some year -- they have live poker also (mainly NLH, it seems) with a lower rake than even in Spain. It is possibly OK, though higher, in London also. In Scotland, they want to know the source of your money, in cases. The Netherlands seems to be on the regulation about now and international but like Dublin (pick a cheaper city), especially Amsterdam (high rake live poker) is a costly city, and getting a flat in Netherlands might have issues, as it might be similar to Sweden (international pool, much like Finland but regulated so the rakeback can be lower and some limitations, as regulated - not sure if legal to play elsewhere, but there has never been a law against it, so yes is likely, if accepted by the site. Stockholm and Helsinki have a casino also, that rates to be playable but less of a fish-fest than in Spain or Austria for example), that one is renting part-time flats, or otherwise it can be impossible. The legal issue seems to be that the rents need to be lower, so they are up to impossible to get (in Sweden at least) or then one gets a part-time or whatever flat for higher costs, where the main issue might be that it is part-time.
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12-05-2021 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pucmo
Finland is tax-free inside the EU, and the only downside (for a start) is that they will block money transfers to gambling outside the country, and what the implications are is unknown but might get clear in 2023.
Yeah this ain't happening. Playing other sites than our veikkaus isn't illegal and based on our constitution it's not possbile to block your withdrawals from othe "gambling" sites. They might try to make it that you can't deposit directly from bank to the site and that doesn't affect at all because you can use skrill etc just fine. Living here is expensive if you want to live in one of the bigger cities. And have no idea what are you talking about 15% and lumos. If you are talking about asumisoikeus asunnot you ain't getting those as a foreigner. Check your facts missy.
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12-06-2021 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Esa_Perse
Yeah this ain't happening. Playing other sites than our veikkaus isn't illegal and based on our constitution it's not possbile to block your withdrawals from othe "gambling" sites. They might try to make it that you can't deposit directly from bank to the site and that doesn't affect at all because you can use skrill etc just fine. Living here is expensive if you want to live in one of the bigger cities. And have no idea what are you talking about 15% and lumos. If you are talking about asumisoikeus asunnot you ain't getting those as a foreigner. Check your facts missy.
Can attest to the expensive part of Finland. Was looking for immigration myself, renting and food ain't cheap. Had to take off my list.
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12-11-2021 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Eder
Is using a VPN rather than moving out of the question?
What is VPN?
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12-11-2021 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Philthy_Phish
What is VPN?
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network
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12-13-2021 , 12:51 AM
From a poker perspective, choose a place with relatively stable laws and regulation relating to play, segregation, and tax.

For example; anyone moving to Germany or Netherlands in the last few years was taking a risk and they knew it.

Unfortunately a lot of the "cheap to live" countries are also "potentially shifting regulation / legalisation" countries (especially parts of eastern europe, asia, south america).

Somewhere like Ireland has a very high cost of living in the cities, but no gambling / poker taxes of any kind, and unlikely to have any significant legal changes in the near future.
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02-02-2022 , 04:06 PM
The more far away places of the country have up to very cheap flats one can buy. Also, renting will be more of a possibility there.

Paying a part of the flat deal, possibly: residence, permanent residence or citizenship, but I didn't see it mentioned. One loses that payment if the company goes bankrupt, that's possible as those flats are typically built with loan money, and they pay that back with the money one pays to them. The queue number might be an issue. "Right-of-occupancy apartments/asumisoikeusasunto"in Finland. "Bostadsrätt" in Sweden. One can try to translate the terms for other countries.

https://www.infofinland.fi/en/living...ing-in-finland

In any country, the gambling regulations is one problem. And many other things to know and think about. The permit to stay; an EU bank account might be enough, but not sure, and it should show e.g. regular incomes.
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02-03-2022 , 06:07 AM
You cannot just move to countries like UK or Malta unless you have relevant passport. In theory you could go to UK for 6 months but all sites require you to KYC so you would need utility bills etc.

Malta is in the EU, so you would be allowed 90 days there without visa and again you need to KYC. Getting a work visa there isn't easy, if you were not working then it would be a golden visa which is very expensive (€60-90k fees alone + investments 300k ish ) so totally not worth it to live in Malta.
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