good point.

whats better? tahts attainable

Have you looked at iPoker, OnGame, Entraction, etc, etc, etc? There are lots of places you can get 40-60% return with soft players.

I agree throw in SOME live event & then your cooking.

3rd vid from the bottom....Weird.


http://www.ultimatebet.com/wsop/2010...b-check-videos

Liquerson challenges Paul Leggett to LL4CARS

editoopps yet again.

Your link is broken.

Just when I start to let go of the whole AP/UB thing, they give me reasons to both laugh at them and hate them at the same time.

You are a real idiot or ignorant as to the meaning of "shill". I think a little of both may lie at the heart of the matter. If you know any poster that is compensated by Stars to tout their site, spill. Please.

If you are referring to Stars fanboys, then you don't know what you're talking about, and should really just stfu before you embarrass yourself further. Lurk more, post less.

How much $$$ does a UB shill make?
Do they get paid by the hour or the post.

Also, doesn't UB know that by sending shills to post in 2p2 threads is idiotic
2p2 was able to catch superusers on their site,did they really think we wouldn't catch their shills.

Reading posts from UB/AP shill accounts makes me feel super used.

Microbob. Duh.

The modern forum user usually will already assume anyone with less than 20 posts is possibly a shill, potentially a puppet, perhaps a duplicate, and probably an unreliable source. That's the funny part to me -- the collective efforts of these accounts couldn't have even made a dent in the ultimate status quo of opinions. It would take intelligence to pull that off. Or, at least, a postcount.

Well thank you!! I've had a rough 2 weeks on here, but am laughing again. Due to this and the and MB paying $50 for his name in the title. The Fett, putting the fun, back in the zoo

And how many posters who go wild vehemently defending Stars anytime somebody starts a thread stating they are raking too much, or the like, are you randomly IP checking? And would it even be prudent for you to publicly announce you discovered a shill for certain sites if you did? Stars is obviously providing substantial compensation to 2+2 given that the 2+2 pokercast is sponsored by the Stars VIP club, they keep multiple started by Stars employees active in the zoo that work as free advertising, etc.

In any case in the off chance you are serious and honestly do not believe the other sites, Stars in particular, have a number of shills on here as well there's a very simple means to detect the majority of them. They will be using proxies and it's not terribly complex to determine if an IP is a proxy. Here's a link to get started in a few minutes, the comments are very relevant: http://www.oooff.com/php-affiliate-s...-a-open-proxy/

You can even detect TOR and the like, but in all reality I doubt they're doing much beyond using freely available open proxies. FWIW, the UB shills will 100% be swapping to proxies now and this information could be used to single out everybody's favorite scape goat if nothing else.

Wow the shilliness is disgusting, this now has put the possibility of me depositing back on Cereus at a firm 0% from 0.01%

R U CEREUS?

[ ] Poker Stars defrauded their customers out of $7 million like AP
[ ] Poker Stars defrauded their customers out of $23 million like UB
[ ] Poker Stars lied about their SSL incription like CERUES did
[ ] Pokers Stars advertising is banned from 2+2 like CEREUS is
[ ] Poker Stars has a site Rep but CEREUS cant find a qualified Rep
[ ] Poker Stars has a need to have their PR department misrepresent themselves and set up fake 2+2 accounts when you can have Mike or Adam ask any question you want to PokerStars Steve on the Pokercast
[ ] Annie Duke is telling the truth when she says AP/UB is the safest, most secure and transparent site on the internetz and she is the greatest female poker player alive

To suggest Bobo goes out of his way to support, promote, or protect PokerStars in any way to please the higher ups at 2+2 is an absurd accusation. If you read any of his posts you will see over and over again that he is usually the very first person to jump into "What site should I play at" type threads urging players, especially non American players, to explore all of their options and reminding posters that there are numerous places to play when ten PS players are making it seem like Stars is the only choice in their replies. Also, you seem to have ignored my question asking you to name the PS shills after you claimed they are everywhere. You made that statement now you cant even name one?

You forgot the most important one

[x] Poker Stars is rigged

I hope bobo does check everyones IP that seems suspicious for posting like that. What good is advice from a community if its just coming from paid spokespeople who hide their true interest in order to fool their consumers and unknowing readers? I can't believe that UB likes the risk/reward on having shills post for them, I mean was this negative exposure really worth the chance that no one would call them out on having their employees post "UB IS DA BEST ITS A POND REWARDS RULE". Idiots.

There are plenty of regs that come to Stars defence a lot, just like there are plenty who come to FT's defence, and other sites as well. Naturally, the larger sites get more of these guys than the smaller ones do. To me, this is all very normal. Especially when they are posters who aren't just here doing that; they post on a variety of other topics.

What I don't see a lot of, and what would get me looking at people more carefully, are low-post count posters going completely against the grain supporting sites against heavy criticism. IE people posting in the Chinese collusion thread saying "Stars is doing a great job with colluders, eff the haters", or in the Cake security issues thread with "Cake has the best security of any poker site".

I was going to insult you bobo for that ATF thread, but ill save it for an off topic thread

[x]Pokerstars had a Chinese collusion ring that their "security" department supposedly didn't find or ignored for at least 18 months.

[x] Chinese collusion ring still in business and paying rake.

[x] PS compensation has been a joke.

[x]Still better than Cereus

Ummm, yeah they did that.
And you busted them.

Dude wait where link? I dont know how I missed that...

I'm pretty positive full tilt isn't sending employees over to this forum to promote their site. They can't even be bothered to hire enough people to respond to my emails.